If you were SVB, and positively one of the very best players in the game, and probably the most successful, would you come out with a video, telling any of your secrets, that has made you so successful, especially on breaking. I bet MD will be one of his first customers lol. I know several people have done it, Stan, Geno, CJ, and Max to name a few. I know all these guys and others are putting out great material, that has helped a lot of us , but to be honest with you, If I was where Shane is, I just don't think I could be so forth coming with something someone could use to knock me out of a tourney. Come on be honest, could you.
If You Were Shane
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IROCK, When I read your post, the only thing I could think of was what my mentor told me, many years ago. I went from a D player to B player in about a year. I asked him "Aren't you worried I'll become too good", I still remember vividly what he told me. He said, "Just remember, if we ever meet up in a tournament, I taught you everything you know. BUT, I didn't teach you everything I KNOW.!!!" I still havenj't beaten him in practice or tournament. Needless to say he's a STRONG OPEN player. I wish he would just show me everything. LOL
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What a great quote...
Personally I'd buy anything Shane were to put out. I love his playstyle.
Souquet has said many times that he won't make an instructional DVD until he hangs up his cue.....
Why would Shane be any different?... CJ is on my hit list for trying to teach a technique that has never been taught to the public before and 25 years ago he would have never even considered sharing......
Chris
Why would Shane be any different?... CJ is on my hit list for trying to teach a technique that has never been taught to the public before and 25 years ago he would have never even considered sharing......
Chris
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There is knowledge and there is execution of it. Each player has a maximum potential based on their resources, time to dedicate and natural ability. Not everyone can play like the greats, that belief is fantasy. There are no secrets to be taught really, just differences in technique and the mental approach to the game.
There is knowledge and there is execution of it. Each player has a maximum potential based on their resources, time to dedicate and natural ability. Not everyone can play like the greats, that belief is fantasy. There are no secrets to be taught really, just differences in technique and the mental approach to the game.
^ the truth right here. I wish a mod would plaster that quote all over the forum so the league players on here stop jumping up (god forbid) one skill level and raving about the touch of infection dvds
Shane has given up his secret to the break hundreds of times for free. When asked he says practice. When asked how much he said that one day he put 18 hours into working on the break.
I once spent 15 minutes working with the BreakRak at their booth at the Super Billiards Expo. In those 15 minutes I learned how to park my rock dead center table. And I mean PARK it just like the pros.
I have read that Shane also practiced with a BreakRak. In any event that type of dedication to figuring out the power break pays dividends as you well see. And really it's the same as Corey figuring out all the soft breaks. When anyone dedicates themselves to a task then they are bound to become an expert in it if they are not mentally retarded or have some form of memory issues.
That said there are secrets still. By secrets I mean ways to play and see the balls that don't come to you just by hitting balls. Things that top players have discovered and that they share with other top players but which are not shared with iggies. You have to get to a certain level before better players really open up to you. At least that's how I see it.
I can only really compare it to my own business. You might look at my case and someone else's and conclude that they are the same. But you'd be wrong because there are things I do which are not known to anyone but us and a very few case makers I have told about them. Given that I have studied - which means dissected - the cases from almost every other brand - I KNOW that they don't do what I do.
Now they could buy my case and tear it apart and try to figure out why I did certain things and try to figure out how I did them and probably they would be able to reasonably duplicate them. But this is much harder when you are watching a person perform a task like playing pool. For example I kick really well, especially one rail kicks. I have figured out a way to mentally visualize the distance and aiming using my cue without actually looking like I am measuring anything. So I kick balls in and the spectators clap and people admire my "skill" but in reality my skill is because I have learned a geometric way to know where to send the cue ball and I have developed a way to do it quickly without any extra actions. I haven't actually practiced every possible kick shot to develop a feel for them.
A month or so ago though I figured out that I could use this method for banking to spots on the rail to play better safeties. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbjl_8wtcS8
I practiced this for about as long as it took me to make the video and since then I can confidently say that it has helped me to win about $200 laying down safeties which I used to sell out more than 50% of the time.
I once spent 15 minutes working with the BreakRak at their booth at the Super Billiards Expo. In those 15 minutes I learned how to park my rock dead center table. And I mean PARK it just like the pros.
I have read that Shane also practiced with a BreakRak. In any event that type of dedication to figuring out the power break pays dividends as you well see. And really it's the same as Corey figuring out all the soft breaks. When anyone dedicates themselves to a task then they are bound to become an expert in it if they are not mentally retarded or have some form of memory issues.
That said there are secrets still. By secrets I mean ways to play and see the balls that don't come to you just by hitting balls. Things that top players have discovered and that they share with other top players but which are not shared with iggies. You have to get to a certain level before better players really open up to you. At least that's how I see it.
I can only really compare it to my own business. You might look at my case and someone else's and conclude that they are the same. But you'd be wrong because there are things I do which are not known to anyone but us and a very few case makers I have told about them. Given that I have studied - which means dissected - the cases from almost every other brand - I KNOW that they don't do what I do.
Now they could buy my case and tear it apart and try to figure out why I did certain things and try to figure out how I did them and probably they would be able to reasonably duplicate them. But this is much harder when you are watching a person perform a task like playing pool. For example I kick really well, especially one rail kicks. I have figured out a way to mentally visualize the distance and aiming using my cue without actually looking like I am measuring anything. So I kick balls in and the spectators clap and people admire my "skill" but in reality my skill is because I have learned a geometric way to know where to send the cue ball and I have developed a way to do it quickly without any extra actions. I haven't actually practiced every possible kick shot to develop a feel for them.
A month or so ago though I figured out that I could use this method for banking to spots on the rail to play better safeties. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbjl_8wtcS8
I practiced this for about as long as it took me to make the video and since then I can confidently say that it has helped me to win about $200 laying down safeties which I used to sell out more than 50% of the time.
Was that comment really necessary?
I ask Shane when he was at Clicks in Dallas "what's your key to breaking well?"
I ask Shane when he was at Clicks in Dallas "what's your key to breaking well?"...he said "I practice 8 hours a day." ....
"But what about your break?".....
"I practice my break 8 hours, and my game 9 hours, I've been practicing 17 hours a day." .......
"omg, never mind."
I ask Shane when he was at Clicks in Dallas "what's your key to breaking well?"...he said "I practice 8 hours a day." ....
"But what about your break?".....
"I practice my break 8 hours, and my game 9 hours, I've been practicing 17 hours a day." .......
"omg, never mind."
I ask Shane when he was at Clicks in Dallas "what's your key to breaking well?"...he said "I practice 8 hours a day." ....
"But what about your break?".....
"I practice my break 8 hours, and my game 9 hours, I've been practicing 17 hours a day." .......
"omg, never mind."
I read somewhere about the 18 hour day he put in just for breaking and took it to the pool hall myself.
Now I don't have 18 hours to do that by any means but I did practice one night for two and a half on just breaking and in that short amount of time alone I figured out where exactly I'll be breaking from for 8 ball and 10 ball and have been since getting more and more consistent breaks.
I make it routine every night after work when I go to the hall to get at least 45 minutes-1hr of breaking in when I'm not playing with others.
There are a few secrets in pool, especially in terms of cue ball control, but they are generally just subtle hints rather than game changers. The reason they remain secrets is because either they are difficult to be put into words and have to be shown or they are situational based. I don't think it would be worth the time and effort to compile every little trick in Shane's head and put them all into a DVD. It would be more worthwhile if Shane had an unconventional system or two to share, but it is more than likely that he uses some of the many documented systems out there.
That quote is from the Baltimore Bullet.........
There is a break video, among others, coming from Shane. If Shane has a secret when it comes to the break its not a technique so much as a mindset. I was here filming with Shane, Jen and Cleary for two long days. After it was all over I realized two things.
1. If people think this series is going to be a "Do it like this and you will win" type of thing they are going to hate it.
2. After spending some time thinking about all the things we went over and Shane's approach to the entire game I think it is something that has never been captured before with respect to an entire outlook on the game. Its almost some zen type thing in its entirety. Its hard to explain. There are lots of specific tips and instruction but what stuck with me is his outlook on everything and how that outlook and mindset has real effects on your results.
Hopefully people like it. I'm sure some will get a lot out of it and some won't but such is life. I will say its pretty refreshing to see a guy still completely in love with the game and that comes across in the videos.
If you think anyone can knock Shane out just by adding some missing knowledge...
well, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT BUDDY
I've found (much to my everlasting sorrow) that knowledge is only one piece of the puzzle.
Maybe not even be the most important one. You gotta be able to execute.
You know what secret piece of knowledge helped him do so well in the last TAR?
"Miss zero cut shots in over 50 games" ...you can have that one for free.
well, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT BUDDY
I've found (much to my everlasting sorrow) that knowledge is only one piece of the puzzle.
Maybe not even be the most important one. You gotta be able to execute.
You know what secret piece of knowledge helped him do so well in the last TAR?
"Miss zero cut shots in over 50 games" ...you can have that one for free.
If you think anyone can knock Shane out just by adding some missing knowledge...
well, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT BUDDY
I've found (much to my everlasting sorrow) that knowledge is only one piece of the puzzle.
Maybe not even be the most important one. You gotta be able to execute.
You know what secret piece of knowledge helped him do so well in the last TAR?
"Miss zero cut shots in over 50 games" ...you can have that one for free.
After two days of filming with Shane, Jennifer joked "I finally figured it out. Shane doesnt play shape. He plays not to be hooked and not to be on a rail."
I think Shane is putting more time in on the table with his practice, so he is benefiting more on the table in competitive play, and that is the way it should be. I would guess he has a few little things that he does that he has customized to work well with his game, that he will keep in his back pocket, and why wouldn't he. I also agree, that when you hear him speak, you can tell how much he still loves the game, and his dedication to his practice is unbelievable. By most of what I have read or heard, there are few Pros who enjoy their practice that much, most just want to compete.
JCIN, this is interesting.
After two days of filming with Shane, Jennifer joked "I finally figured it out. Shane doesnt play shape. He plays not to be hooked and not to be on a rail."
JCIN, this is interesting.
After two days of filming with Shane, Jennifer joked "I finally figured it out. Shane doesnt play shape. He plays not to be hooked and not to be on a rail."
One of the things I was talking about regarding mindset that I got from filming the Shane project kind of ties into what Jen joked about. A lot of times you here people talking about "You need to get the cue ball here" or "Get it in this area" Shane often times mentions what he doesnt want to happen "As long as I dont get here I'm fine so I make sure I dont get there."
Its simple and most people have probably seen similar stuff before but when I watched all the little ways he looks at the game its pretty cool. The videos are as much about how he plays the game as the techniques he uses to play it.