Busti explains his overly complicated aiming system.
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Well that clears everything up!
It's never over with the aiming systemaniacs. Busti is holding out and just doesn't want to give up his secrets.
He didn't even understand the deflection question :grin:
" I just look a little ticker ..."
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I don't know what all the fuss about is......
That's exactly how I do it.
If I want to make a ball in 'that' hole then I shoot it in that one. And if I need to make the CB go 'here' then I shoot it so it goes there.
Easy Peasy.
That's exactly how I do it.
If I want to make a ball in 'that' hole then I shoot it in that one. And if I need to make the CB go 'here' then I shoot it so it goes there.
Easy Peasy.
I totally understand. That is basically how I have been playing for 45 years until CJ introduced TOI.
Like Busty & Sigel, I never thought about CB 'squirt'/deflection. If one never thinks about it, then it does not consciously exist. The mind has made the compensation subconsciously.
Then CJ comes out with TOI & now I am focused & thonking about CB 'squirt'/deflection & have to get the Spin Swerve out of conscious thought & into the subconscious or get it eliminated through the mechanical physics of the shot.
Perhaps that is why many are fearful or have been made fearful by others regarding the use of english. In reality it is rather easy when one simply gets the brain & worry regarding the physical complexity of it out of the picture.
It is simply decide to shoot with a type of english & make the one conscious plan for it & then let the mind subconsciously do the rest. Basically it is called 'FEEL'.
Have you developed a 'feel' for it or are you going to constantly try to analyze it & try to calculate it with your brain or a scientific calculator?
If one leans towards the second option they will not ever shoot well with english. IMHO
I totally understood Busty & I don't speak Philipino. I could have heard the question & turned the sound off & understood just from seeing his motions with the stick & where he pointed relative to the two(2) balls.
Anyway it is simple & that is what it should be about. Making the complexity of the game simple.
Is Busty or Sigel the same level player without english? I don't think so.
I also think that anyone that does not employ english is playing at a lower level or 2 or 3 than they are probably capable of playing. Again JMHO.
Regards,
Like Busty & Sigel, I never thought about CB 'squirt'/deflection. If one never thinks about it, then it does not consciously exist. The mind has made the compensation subconsciously.
Then CJ comes out with TOI & now I am focused & thonking about CB 'squirt'/deflection & have to get the Spin Swerve out of conscious thought & into the subconscious or get it eliminated through the mechanical physics of the shot.
Perhaps that is why many are fearful or have been made fearful by others regarding the use of english. In reality it is rather easy when one simply gets the brain & worry regarding the physical complexity of it out of the picture.
It is simply decide to shoot with a type of english & make the one conscious plan for it & then let the mind subconsciously do the rest. Basically it is called 'FEEL'.
Have you developed a 'feel' for it or are you going to constantly try to analyze it & try to calculate it with your brain or a scientific calculator?
If one leans towards the second option they will not ever shoot well with english. IMHO
I totally understood Busty & I don't speak Philipino. I could have heard the question & turned the sound off & understood just from seeing his motions with the stick & where he pointed relative to the two(2) balls.
Anyway it is simple & that is what it should be about. Making the complexity of the game simple.
Is Busty or Sigel the same level player without english? I don't think so.
I also think that anyone that does not employ english is playing at a lower level or 2 or 3 than they are probably capable of playing. Again JMHO.
Regards,
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I can't help but think he would have had a lot more to say in response to those questions if the discussion had taken place in his native language.
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He didn't discuss a thing about the way he aims, only that he aims thicker for outside english shots and looks at the OB last.
It's a shame - TAR was close, but didn't quite ask the right questions. Justin almost had it but said "low" instead of "left" and if after that they setup a cut to the left and asked him to spin around with outside and he put his tip far left again, you could have drilled down further as to why his tip is left of the left edge when he intends to hit right of center.
Never once did anyone ask him about pivoting into center from the left CB edge. Maybe a sly comment like, "Have you ever thought of pivoting while standing up instead of over the shot" might trigger him into an entirely different conversation.
Donny Perryman and I knew what questions to ask and we got a WAY different conversation. Not a "ya ya ya that's what I do" - but his history of how he developed, why he retained his mechanical pivot and even how Marlon was one of the only guys who didn't because he came up through snooker and not pool. Most fascinating 20 mins ever, imo.
"Hello my baby hello my darling...hello my rag-time galllll....."
(hey everyone come check this out!)
"Ribbit"
Imagine that.
It's a shame - TAR was close, but didn't quite ask the right questions. Justin almost had it but said "low" instead of "left" and if after that they setup a cut to the left and asked him to spin around with outside and he put his tip far left again, you could have drilled down further as to why his tip is left of the left edge when he intends to hit right of center.
Never once did anyone ask him about pivoting into center from the left CB edge. Maybe a sly comment like, "Have you ever thought of pivoting while standing up instead of over the shot" might trigger him into an entirely different conversation.
Donny Perryman and I knew what questions to ask and we got a WAY different conversation. Not a "ya ya ya that's what I do" - but his history of how he developed, why he retained his mechanical pivot and even how Marlon was one of the only guys who didn't because he came up through snooker and not pool. Most fascinating 20 mins ever, imo.
"Hello my baby hello my darling...hello my rag-time galllll....."
(hey everyone come check this out!)
"Ribbit"
Imagine that.
Basically it''s the result of talking to a real honest to goodness pool player using Forum like mentally and notions.
IMO.
Coudn't agree more.
+1
Like Busty & Sigel, I never thought about CB 'squirt'/deflection. If one never thinks about it, then it does not consciously exisit. The mind has made the compensation subconsciously.
It is simply decide to shoot with a type of english & make the one conscious plan for it & then let the mind subconsciously do the rest. Basically it is called 'FEEL'.
+1
Like Busty & Sigel, I never thought about CB 'squirt'/deflection. If one never thinks about it, then it does not consciously exisit. The mind has made the compensation subconsciously.
It is simply decide to shoot with a type of english & make the one conscious plan for it & then let the mind subconsciously do the rest. Basically it is called 'FEEL'.
YOWZA!!! The highlighted part is what I've been trying to tell people for years. "feel" LOVE IT!! :thumbup:
a couple thoughts.
It actually appears to me that he is doing something very similar to TOI land. It's mostly a thought process and less a shooting process. Notice, he pointed to the closest side of pocket to focus on for the object balls final destination. Although he "knows" the ball will go toward center pocket once the english is applied, the alignment and focus of aim is towards the undercut side of the pocket(exact same as TOI). All of the pro's I have talked to think about aiming this same way so I believe there must something to it. It's really the ordering of the thoughts that is important I believe.
One may think this way...I am going to use left/outside, I line up for center pocket, i feel the english with this speed will make the OB go in the pocket so I will adjust using BHE or by aiming to hit the cue ball thicker or thinner.
The thought order of better players seems to be..I will use left/outside, I line up for the thick side of the pocket. Address CB with english and ball goes in.
A subtle but very important distinction at least in my mind.
It actually appears to me that he is doing something very similar to TOI land. It's mostly a thought process and less a shooting process. Notice, he pointed to the closest side of pocket to focus on for the object balls final destination. Although he "knows" the ball will go toward center pocket once the english is applied, the alignment and focus of aim is towards the undercut side of the pocket(exact same as TOI). All of the pro's I have talked to think about aiming this same way so I believe there must something to it. It's really the ordering of the thoughts that is important I believe.
One may think this way...I am going to use left/outside, I line up for center pocket, i feel the english with this speed will make the OB go in the pocket so I will adjust using BHE or by aiming to hit the cue ball thicker or thinner.
The thought order of better players seems to be..I will use left/outside, I line up for the thick side of the pocket. Address CB with english and ball goes in.
A subtle but very important distinction at least in my mind.
It actually appears to me that he is doing something very similar to TOI land. It's mostly a thought process and less a shooting process. Notice, he pointed to the closest side of pocket to focus on for the object balls final destination. Although he "knows" the ball will go toward center pocket once the english is applied, the alignment and focus of aim is towards the undercut side of the pocket(exact same as TOI). All of the pro's I have talked to think about aiming this same way so I believe there must something to it. It's really the ordering of the thoughts that is important I believe.
One may think this way...I am going to use left/outside, I line up for center pocket, i feel the english with this speed will make the OB go in the pocket so I will adjust using BHE or by aiming to hit the cue ball thicker or thinner.
The thought order of better players seems to be..I will use left/outside, I line up for the thick side of the pocket. Address CB with english and ball goes in.
A subtle but very important distinction at least in my mind.
Similar to TOI, except that he uses outside English to throw in the object ball instead of inside English to deflect the cue ball to "throw" the ball in.
That's right. It's called pektus in Tagalog.
Efren says you need more when midnight strikes or during
humid conditions . But less when kicking .
That's right. It's called pektus in Tagalog.
Efren says you need more when midnight strikes or during
humid conditions . But less when kicking .
I'm not picking on you, but I know you and I have gone back and forth on this exact issue before with Busty and whether or not he uses any system. We've seen him now in several podcasts say he does not. You have seen him in person and got different information out of him.
One thing was clear in the podcast is there is still a slight language barrier. Busty clearly misunderstood a few of the questions throughout the entire podcast. (not just aiming stuff)
Could it be with the language barrier, the interviewer will "hear" what he wants to hear? So in your case, you "heard" the aiming system. In Justin's case, the podcast audience "heard" feel? And if I were to interview him, I'd "hear" feel?
Thoughts on this? Not debating whether he does or does use an aiming system in this post, just why we the fans (to include you of course) have different interpretations of what Busty says.