Centennials or Super Pros

If you want to torture him a bit, get the Aramith Tournament set, toughest ball set to play with IMHO, cueball is really hard to move, you need about 10-20% more stroke to execute with that set.

I'll go out on a limb and say that's in your head;)
 
I'll go out on a limb and say that's in your head;)

Try them :D LOL. I've had a few people play with them, everyone said it was a lot harder to move the cue ball around. I've played with just about every set out there, aside from the goofy novelty sets, the Tournament set (the ones with the broken circle) are tough. A bit like playing on a table with under 4.5 inch pockets, takes more focus and skill to work with, but it's pretty rewarding if you can manage it.

For me, going from most lively rebound off collisions and cue ball ease of movement, I'd list Aramith Pro, TV sets as most lively (including the measle ball), Centennials in the middle, and Aramith Tournament as the toughest to move around. They all last a long time, all are well matched with size/weight differences in sets, but how they react off each other is pretty different.
 
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I have all 3 sets. Centennials and tournaments are still sealed in the box. Super pros have maybe 20 racks on them. I plan on comparing them all side by side, just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Yes, I'm addicted to this game. Lol
 
I have all 3 sets. Centennials and tournaments are still sealed in the box. Super pros have maybe 20 racks on them. I plan on comparing them all side by side, just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Yes, I'm addicted to this game. Lol

Great, let me know what you think. I know a few people that like to use the measles ball with the Centennial set because the measles is a bit easier to move, but matches the weight and size pretty well of the Centennials. I'm guessing since the wright is so close, the difference is in the composition and manufacture of the material used to make them, the easier balls are probably a bit more elastic so rebound more.

Just thought of something, Dr Dave must have done a ball set comparison at some point I would think, or Bob Jewett maybe.
 
Just thought of something, Dr Dave must have done a ball set comparison at some point I would think, or Bob Jewett maybe.
Sorry, but I have not compared different brands of balls, but I wouldn't expect the properties to differ very much from one good brand to another.

FYI, some info concerning the different types of cue balls can be found here:

Regards,
Dave
 
Sorry, but I have not compared different brands of balls, but I wouldn't expect the properties to differ very much from one good brand to another.

FYI, some info concerning the different types of cue balls can be found here:

Regards,
Dave

There are times I find that the weight and probably size are exactly or within a few % of other balls, yet how they feel and react off collisions are different. The only other thing I can think of is that even with the same weight, how they are made and with what is different enough that they react differently.

isuedtoberich seems to have 3 sets that are new, you should visit and bring your breifcase :)
 
I bought the sets to do a comparison. Just haven't had the time yet. I plan on getting their mass, their diameters across the stripe and perpendicular to it, and how they mark the cloth (especially since the tournament balls claim they are better). I'm also planning to see if there is measurable wear in the diameters after a controlled series of shots.

My equipment access is very precise, much more so than a postal scale or calipers.

Just coming down to timing:)
 
I just bought the Cents with new felt for my Gold Crown, just wanted to do the Brunswick thing. I also plan on getting some Aramith tv balls, for awhile I saw all kinds of tournament used sets but now that Im kinda looking it seems like they dried up. Im kinda nervous about buying a used set though, I don't want ugly and nasty balls.l
 
I bought a brand new set of Aramith Super Pro (TV) and returned them to the store - I thought they were ugly !
The white resin was ivory at best - more like a yellowish white (on all balls, cue & objects)
Also the transition regions from colour to white & black to white looked slightly blurry / smudged.
I'm sure they would have played great - but they didnt look like they were worth the price I paid for them. Refunded them for a set of Aramith Premiers. Bright whites & no smudging or blurriness.
The super cheap chinese balls are even whiter & brighter again - what is it - an inverse relationship between resin quality & whiteness / brightness ?? (ok, the chinese balls are polyester, not true phenolic - granted)
 
I bought a brand new set of Aramith Super Pro (TV) and returned them to the store - I thought they were ugly !
The white resin was ivory at best - more like a yellowish white (on all balls, cue & objects)
Also the transition regions from colour to white & black to white looked slightly blurry / smudged.
I'm sure they would have played great - but they didnt look like they were worth the price I paid for them. Refunded them for a set of Aramith Premiers. Bright whites & no smudging or blurriness.
The super cheap chinese balls are even whiter & brighter again - what is it - an inverse relationship between resin quality & whiteness / brightness ?? (ok, the chinese balls are polyester, not true phenolic - granted)

Why buy based on looks? It's how they play that really matters. You need to be ready to defend yourself in this forum if that's how you pick your equipment LOL, and I have a nice pink Cuetec for you also when you are ready for a new cue also. It's shiny and bright.

I like how a slightly aged set of balls looks, nothing speaks about pool better than a Gold Crown III with a nice aged set of yellowish Centennials with a couple of older guys with beer guts and suspenders hanging around.
 
I like the cents. Got a never used set for $125 last year.

Was that the set I sold on Ebay that was a gift from my ex wife?

I have a set of TV Centennials and a set of Aramith Super Pros. I rotate them onto my table and the other set goes into the ball cleaner. Every time I switch from one set to the other I get that feeling of having something new and cool.

JC
 
My brother has a Brunswick Prestige table that came with centennials whenit was new in the late 70's early 80's. The balls are all yellowed. I want to get him a new set. Everything I read says that Aramith currently makes the centennials for Brunswick and they are the same balls as the Super Pros, just more expensive because they're for Brunswick.

I hate to spend money uselessly but one side says he'd prefer to keep the table all "Brunswick".

What do you guys think? Should I get him the Super Pros or buy him new Centennials? FWIW, a local billiard supply store (and Brunswick dealer" doesn't even sell Centennials only the Aramith branded Super Pros. Are centennials passe?

Aramith TOUNAMENT set balls are the highest end balls, fwiw.

For more information about Aramith:
http://www.saluc.com/html/billiard/index.php

My private set of Centennials got chopped up by an old ball cleaning machine when the lid popped open while the balls were spinning. The metal sleeves came chopping down on the spinning balls and ruined the set.
 
Try them :D LOL. I've had a few people play with them, everyone said it was a lot harder to move the cue ball around. I've played with just about every set out there, aside from the goofy novelty sets, the Tournament set (the ones with the broken circle) are tough. A bit like playing on a table with under 4.5 inch pockets, takes more focus and skill to work with, but it's pretty rewarding if you can manage it.

For me, going from most lively rebound off collisions and cue ball ease of movement, I'd list Aramith Pro, TV sets as most lively (including the measle ball), Centennials in the middle, and Aramith Tournament as the toughest to move around. They all last a long time, all are well matched with size/weight differences in sets, but how they react off each other is pretty different.

WOW, I have the Tournament Set and haven't noticed that they play differently. I do notice that they play more consistent than the pool balls at my pool room but I thought that was because the pool room balls were older and more worn and the ball sets were mixed.

I'm going to pay more attention to the Tournament set when I take them out next time.
 
That "old yellow" look is CLASSIC in the eyes of a lot of us. just sayin....
 
If you want to try an applied sharking technique, tell your opponents they are playing with collectable antiques.

:angel2:
 
WOW, I have the Tournament Set and haven't noticed that they play differently. I do notice that they play more consistent than the pool balls at my pool room but I thought that was because the pool room balls were older and more worn and the ball sets were mixed.

I'm going to pay more attention to the Tournament set when I take them out next time.

Yes, they are VERY precise in how they hit off each other, but that cueball is tough. Try it back to back with another set, especially draw. It's almost like playing with a bit oversize cueball. When you try for a few inches of draw, it ends up with a stop shot if you play with another set for a few hours.

There are quite a few people I play with that will not use the turnament set due to this fact. I tend to agree with them, it's just tough enough to move around that it messes with your game, but I do like HOW they play, just not the fact you need to change your stoke with them that much.
 
Yes, they are VERY precise in how they hit off each other, but that cueball is tough. Try it back to back with another set, especially draw. It's almost like playing with a bit oversize cueball. When you try for a few inches of draw, it ends up with a stop shot if you play with another set for a few hours.

There are quite a few people I play with that will not use the turnament set due to this fact. I tend to agree with them, it's just tough enough to move around that it messes with your game, but I do like HOW they play, just not the fact you need to change your stoke with them that much.

You know, a month or so ago, I was having a little trouble drawing the cue ball. Now, I am drawing a lot better and it doesn't seem quite so hard as a month ago but I am using the pool rooms regular Aramith Ball sets. I thought I was just developing a better technique. :D

Now you're forcing me to bring my set of Aramith Tournament Balls to the pool room tonight for testing.
 
You know, a month or so ago, I was having a little trouble drawing the cue ball. Now, I am drawing a lot better and it doesn't seem quite so hard as a month ago but I am using the pool rooms regular Aramith Ball sets. I thought I was just developing a better technique. :D

Now you're forcing me to bring my set of Aramith Tournament Balls to the pool room tonight for testing.

Please do, let us know how things go. I'm sure you probably know this, but before you start using your Tournament set there, check the pockets to make sure they are not ripped. I took a friend's Centennial balls to a room that had really cheap and chipped balls, after a few games, some of the Centennials got chips in them and some slices. I checked the pockets and the leather was ripped and exposed the metal brackets on the pockets which was messing up the balls. Good thing we did not take his brand new Tournament set with us that night, because we almost did!
 
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