This guy is such an idiot. I really hope karma is quick coming and painful for this moron.
Bad Deal with daniels
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It's actually a C-note at this point because of the chargeback.
So from this I gather that NSA does NOT have payment for the items in question.
Credit card dispute or not, that part is between you and mom. You made a deal with NSA and he has yet to be paid.
Is that correct?
"I was called out on my bullsh!t, so I'll use that as an excuse to not pay for what I stole"
That is some fantastic circular logic. I really hope nsafellow has contacted the police. Getting a judgment on you for $100 + damages would be hilarious. It would go through for free, too. Credit card fraud is looked at pretty poorly in small claims. Punitive measures have been heaped on by judges as well as damage recovery in similar cases.
Daniels logic.... It is absolutely senseless.
Reminds me of a guy in my poolroom who owed me.
he said, 'now you ask for it, you ain't gettin it'.
Daniels: don't you see that all that has happened here is a direct result of your failure to execute the transaction properly? Fix it, man...c'mon!
he said, 'now you ask for it, you ain't gettin it'.
Daniels: don't you see that all that has happened here is a direct result of your failure to execute the transaction properly? Fix it, man...c'mon!
I only wish I could give more red rep.
and speaking of TV court shows, this is classic evolution.
The thieving non-payers usually have no problem looking past the fact that they received a loan or merchandise or whatever and then never paid for it.
But instead they start hurling the bullshit like, for instance, 'I was gonna pay you but then you started hounding me, you even called me at my job.'
Of course, the reality is that the person owed had to start hounding them because the defendants weren't keeping their end of the deal.
The same as we see here; daniels clearly still owes a c-note to nsafellow.
But now he starts pointing toward the big meanies here on az as now being a reason for him to not do the right thing.
Or more accurately, continue to.best,
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What a ASS-CLOWN.... It's so funny how some try to get out of things... What a joke....How does he still have a iTrader of 100%?
Alright, I was not going to say a word about this. But enough is enough. Daniels you claim you are not a thief. Here is where the problem lies. You are not out any money for this. Unless you gave your mom the $80 for the case before you used the credit card, you have yet to spend a penny. In fact you received and sold a case that you did not pay for. By law (my wife is a lawyer) nsafellow could get you in a lot of trouble for selling stole property. He is not doing that. All he wants is this to get resolved.
You said you are lacking emotion for this situation, because you rep has taken a hit. That is all your fault. I hate to break it to you but NSA told you he was going to post this if it was not resolved. He has given you every chance to make this right. You do not like the Kangaroo court. There is one easy way out. Pay NSA the $100 you owe him. Than your rep gets restored and the kangaroo court is out.
This is not a hard concept. Any reasonable adult can see this. You received a product, that even thou you sent payment, the payment never reached the seller. You have admitted this yourself. Than you sold said product. Since you can not send the product back to seller, the only logical thing is to pay the man the money you originally were going to pay. Now however its $20 more because of the charge back.
I am not calling you a thief or a liar. All I am saying is this can go away really fast, if you just pay the man his money. I can not speak for the rest of AZ , however I would just pay the $100 and be done with it. Weather you feel right or wrong about it, is it not worth it to pay it and just be done with the headache? $100 should not be a lot to some one who has thousand of dollars in cues.
I hope this situation comes to an end soon.
You said you are lacking emotion for this situation, because you rep has taken a hit. That is all your fault. I hate to break it to you but NSA told you he was going to post this if it was not resolved. He has given you every chance to make this right. You do not like the Kangaroo court. There is one easy way out. Pay NSA the $100 you owe him. Than your rep gets restored and the kangaroo court is out.
This is not a hard concept. Any reasonable adult can see this. You received a product, that even thou you sent payment, the payment never reached the seller. You have admitted this yourself. Than you sold said product. Since you can not send the product back to seller, the only logical thing is to pay the man the money you originally were going to pay. Now however its $20 more because of the charge back.
I am not calling you a thief or a liar. All I am saying is this can go away really fast, if you just pay the man his money. I can not speak for the rest of AZ , however I would just pay the $100 and be done with it. Weather you feel right or wrong about it, is it not worth it to pay it and just be done with the headache? $100 should not be a lot to some one who has thousand of dollars in cues.
I hope this situation comes to an end soon.
clarification
Just to be clear...
I don't want to be a "middleman". I was trying to jumpstart Daniels toward compensating nsafellow. and getting this matter resolved.
I will not be accepting any form of payment from Daniels - I don't need the same chargeback situation on my paypal.
Daniels - DON'T CONTACT ME. My offer stands. I would pay if nsafellow posts it here that you have paid him $60.00... and ONLY after.
I am not optomistic about that happening due to your recent post that you don't like Jim (nsafellow) and do not intend to pay him. Send the money to his paypal.
Mr. Daniels - what you have written here about not paying because you don't like the guy makes you look terrible. I don't really care to have any dealings with you.
As a matter of fact - I will never do a deal with you. But to show you how this is supposed to work on here. I opened my mouth and said I would pay the twenty after you paid sixty. I am a man of my word. So even though I disdain your actions here and the way you have conducted yourself, I will keep my word.
NOW PAY NSAFELLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! end of story.
Just to be clear...
I don't want to be a "middleman". I was trying to jumpstart Daniels toward compensating nsafellow. and getting this matter resolved.
I will not be accepting any form of payment from Daniels - I don't need the same chargeback situation on my paypal.
Daniels - DON'T CONTACT ME. My offer stands. I would pay if nsafellow posts it here that you have paid him $60.00... and ONLY after.
I am not optomistic about that happening due to your recent post that you don't like Jim (nsafellow) and do not intend to pay him. Send the money to his paypal.
Mr. Daniels - what you have written here about not paying because you don't like the guy makes you look terrible. I don't really care to have any dealings with you.
As a matter of fact - I will never do a deal with you. But to show you how this is supposed to work on here. I opened my mouth and said I would pay the twenty after you paid sixty. I am a man of my word. So even though I disdain your actions here and the way you have conducted yourself, I will keep my word.
NOW PAY NSAFELLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! end of story.
I certainly wouldn't accept another payment via PayPal...if it were me it would be via a USPS Money Order, that can be verified @ the USPS as valid.
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Oh, that makes a ton of sense.
NSA and I have done business together. He is a good man!
You purchased an item and your method of payment was bunk. You need to make it right and honor your original contract since you did not fulfill your portion of an agreement. Payment made and payment retracted (for ANY reason) changes it from a fulfilled contract to larceny with the intent to de-fruaud. That is why it is ILLEGAL to write bad checks. Using the mail also allows for charges of mail -fraud and bank fraud. Damages to the petitioner are clear cut. The fact that you sold it on ebay shows additional motive and shows gain. I suspect your mother will be involved. She will either need to press charges against you for unauthorized use of her card or be involved for conspiracy to defraud. Call your mommies bank and ask them what type of investigation will follow for you and your mom if NSA brings forward a suit and shows that he accepted payment in good faith (fully supported by your statements publicly . Do that first because it will provide all the motivation you need to resolve this.
Your posts have been printed from this thread and forwarded to someone I have consulted on this matter. You have 72 hours to make NSA whole or I will be referring this to a local attorney (Placerville, CA) on behalf of NSA. This attorney owes me a HUGE favor. He has agreed to file pro-bono (i will cover filling fees) . I will put NSA in contact with him in 72 hours. It will be more than worth it to call that favor in to see this resolved properly. For now it will a civil matter but I was assured criminal charges will be pursued by just about any judge in El Dorado Country. Do I have that right?
I will not repsond in this thread further and only to see that this has been resolved in 72 hours. Ask people on AZ that know me if I mess around on matters like this or have the wherewithal to back this up. This is not a threat.This is one AZer finally taking a stand against low-lifes like you. Even if this costs me $$$$ it will happen and hard!
I am not your friend nor enemy. I do not care to hear any excuses or a response from you. PMs will be deleted w/o being read. Test me!
Oh, that makes a ton of sense.
NSA and I have done business together. He is a good man!
You purchased an item and your method of payment was bunk. You need to make it right and honor your original contract since you did not fulfill your portion of an agreement. Payment made and payment retracted (for ANY reason) changes it from a fulfilled contract to larceny with the intent to de-fruaud. That is why it is ILLEGAL to write bad checks. Using the mail also allows for charges of mail -fraud and bank fraud. Damages to the petitioner are clear cut. The fact that you sold it on ebay shows additional motive and shows gain. I suspect your mother will be involved. She will either need to press charges against you for unauthorized use of her card or be involved for conspiracy to defraud. Call your mommies bank and ask them what type of investigation will follow for you and your mom if NSA brings forward a suit and shows that he accepted payment in good faith (fully supported by your statements publicly . Do that first because it will provide all the motivation you need to resolve this.
Your posts have been printed from this thread and forwarded to someone I have consulted on this matter. You have 72 hours to make NSA whole or I will be referring this to a local attorney (Placerville, CA) on behalf of NSA. This attorney owes me a HUGE favor. He has agreed to file pro-bono (i will cover filling fees) . I will put NSA in contact with him in 72 hours. It will be more than worth it to call that favor in to see this resolved properly. For now it will a civil matter but I was assured criminal charges will be pursued by just about any judge in El Dorado Country. Do I have that right?
I will not repsond in this thread further and only to see that this has been resolved in 72 hours. Ask people on AZ that know me if I mess around on matters like this or have the wherewithal to back this up. This is not a threat.This is one AZer finally taking a stand against low-lifes like you. Even if this costs me $$$$ it will happen and hard!
I am not your friend nor enemy. I do not care to hear any excuses or a response from you. PMs will be deleted w/o being read. Test me!
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I totally agree with aadamczyk and well said .Pay Nsafellow his money even if you have to send 20 bucks at a time.Make this go away, it's only a hundred bucks.Do the right thing and pay for the case,and his $20 charge back fee.
I would also like to ad that "prewarhero" sounds real serious about this.I would take heed to common sense and ppl warning you (Daniels).I have no dog in this fight,but it seems clear that Daniels owes Nsafellow for the case and charge back fee.
I would also like to ad that "prewarhero" sounds real serious about this.I would take heed to common sense and ppl warning you (Daniels).I have no dog in this fight,but it seems clear that Daniels owes Nsafellow for the case and charge back fee.
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It's amazing that someone's reputation can be so cheap.
So, now he comes on here to basically say he's not a bad guy and has access to money. What a colossal air-barrel. lol
NSA....you're getting it rough, man. I would go to the ends of the earth to see that I get some satisfaction from this jerk.
So, now he comes on here to basically say he's not a bad guy and has access to money. What a colossal air-barrel. lol
NSA....you're getting it rough, man. I would go to the ends of the earth to see that I get some satisfaction from this jerk.
Definitely would like to see Daniels receive the proper punishment for his crime.
can someone please PM me a confirmed address where he resides?
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I'm Sorry, a link to the ebay auction in question as well.
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See...I wasn't talking out of the side of my neck on this!! And in the case of the Federal charges (mail and wire/bank fraud) the monetary amount involved doesn't matter, only that you did it.