That's exactly right, however, in pool.............ooch
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When you blow your nose, do you tell someone you used a tissue or a Kleenex?
Exactly...
That's exactly right, however, in pool.............ooch
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Gambling will create an emotional attachment, but not as an anchor. The game's not an anchor, the gambling's not, the rules aren't it's the players that are.
If Tiger Woods suddenly played pool the game would get a sudden impact of millions of viewers because of the person, not the game. Same thing if any professional superstar played the game, so we have to make these stars ourselves, much like Minnisota Fats, Paul Newman and Tom Cruise did.
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When you blow your nose, do you tell someone you used a tissue or a Kleenex?
Exactly...
Well, not really...:sorry:
I doubt that it would happen but: If any well known celebrity, including Tiger Woods, started playing ---- not investing in---pool on the Seminole Tour, or whatever venue you choose, nothing permanently positive would happen to the pool industry. Yes, they'd be an immediate spike in interest for a few months, maybe even for a year if he stayed with it, and yes, some press coverage at the tournament sites, and maybe even a few new pool rooms opening, but that's about it. The pool stage is, comparatively speaking, too small and insignificant, it's still little more than a gambling subculture. Yet, on the other hand, anyone with enough talent to enter and remain on the pro golf tour would immediately benefit celebrity and wealth from the media exposure, money, and glamor attached to the pro golf world's already established and significant aura and status. It just doesn't work in the reverse, too much negative "history" and image to undo by the presence of one or two "celebrities".
Movies are different, especially mainstream movies, with possibly hundreds
of millions of new exposures. Yes, they can create a pretty strong overnight stir that can be high impact and may last for a few years, but even the few major motion pictures pool has had were not enough to cause any permanent change...Why?....because the "right" people with the "right" abilities, money, and connections have never saw fit to try and invest tens, maybe hundreds, of millions of dollars trying to establish an in-depth, national, and international pool organization from the ground up. There is nothing to even begin working with.
Why?
IMO the reason why pool's future looks so dim is because the people who have the assets required to take the pool industry mainstream are not interested in doing so mainly because of the people who are already involved in the industry. A hundred years and no college teams or scholarships, not even a bonafide national organization or structure. Not even the presence of true leadership, just fragmented self interest. few The blind leading the blind. Anyone paying attention easily sees the IPT and BB as two huge caution and/or stop signs.
Pool still has a tough road to hoe.
J
I used to get drunk on rum and soda pop. Now I just drink beer and whiskey. People don't look at me funny any more.. :sorry:
That's a tough row to hoe. No doubt about that. :wink:
Well, not really...:sorry:
I doubt that it would happen but: If any well known celebrity, including Tiger Woods, started playing ---- not investing in---pool on the Seminole Tour, or whatever venue you choose, nothing permanently positive would happen to the pool industry. Yes, they'd be an immediate spike in interest for a few months, maybe even for a year if he stayed with it, and yes, some press coverage at the tournament sites, and maybe even a few new pool rooms opening, but that's about it. The pool stage is, comparatively speaking, too small and insignificant, it's still little more than a gambling subculture. Yet, on the other hand, anyone with enough talent to enter and remain on the pro golf tour would immediately benefit celebrity and wealth from the media exposure, money, and glamor attached to the pro golf world's already established and significant aura and status. It just doesn't work in the reverse, too much negative "history" and image to undo by the presence of one or two "celebrities".
Movies are different, especially mainstream movies, with possibly hundreds
of millions of new exposures. Yes, they can create a pretty strong overnight stir that can be high impact and may last for a few years, but even the few major motion pictures pool has had were not enough to cause any permanent change...Why?....because the "right" people with the "right" abilities, money, and connections have never saw fit to try and invest tens, maybe hundreds, of millions of dollars trying to establish an in-depth, national, and international pool organization from the ground up. There is nothing to even begin working with.
Why?
IMO the reason why pool's future looks so dim is because the people who have the assets required to take the pool industry mainstream are not interested in doing so mainly because of the people who are already involved in the industry. A hundred years and no college teams or scholarships, not even a bonafide national organization or structure. Not even the presence of true leadership, just fragmented self interest. few The blind leading the blind. Anyone paying attention easily sees the IPT and BB as two huge caution and/or stop signs.
Pool still has a tough road to hoe.
J
Well, not really...:sorry:
I doubt that it would happen but: If any well known celebrity, including Tiger Woods, started playing ---- not investing in---pool on the Seminole Tour, or whatever venue you choose, nothing permanently positive would happen to the pool industry. Yes, they'd be an immediate spike in interest for a few months, maybe even for a year if he stayed with it, and yes, some press coverage at the tournament sites, and maybe even a few new pool rooms opening, but that's about it. The pool stage is, comparatively speaking, too small and insignificant, it's still little more than a gambling subculture. Yet, on the other hand, anyone with enough talent to enter and remain on the pro golf tour would immediately benefit celebrity and wealth from the media exposure, money, and glamor attached to the pro golf world's already established and significant aura and status. It just doesn't work in the reverse, too much negative "history" and image to undo by the presence of one or two "celebrities".
Movies are different, especially mainstream movies, with possibly hundreds
of millions of new exposures. Yes, they can create a pretty strong overnight stir that can be high impact and may last for a few years, but even the few major motion pictures pool has had were not enough to cause any permanent change...Why?....because the "right" people with the "right" abilities, money, and connections have never saw fit to try and invest tens, maybe hundreds, of millions of dollars trying to establish an in-depth, national, and international pool organization from the ground up. There is nothing to even begin working with.
Why?
IMO the reason why pool's future looks so dim is because the people who have the assets required to take the pool industry mainstream are not interested in doing so mainly because of the people who are already involved in the industry. A hundred years and no college teams or scholarships, not even a bonafide national organization or structure. Not even the presence of true leadership, just fragmented self interest. few The blind leading the blind. Anyone paying attention easily sees the IPT and BB as two huge caution and/or stop signs.
Pool still has a tough road to hoe.
J
The best players don't even speak english now days. The hole is now to deep to get out of.
Tours are proven to not work and the other things you mentioned as well. For some reason the strategy in Pro Pool is the definition of insanity "do the same thing over and over expecting different results"......and then argue why it doesn't work, when it never had or will have a chance.
My point is "the players make the game, the game does not make the players"....this is true in all other sports and games, we just don't remember it because they've been branded extremely well for so long. Baseball is boring, but it's the "national pastime" and the players make the game.....nobody talks about "what the ball did," it's what the players do that's important.
Tours are proven to not work and the other things you mentioned as well. For some reason the strategy in Pro Pool is the definition of insanity "do the same thing over and over expecting different results"......and then argue why it doesn't work, when it never had or will have a chance.
My point is "the players make the game, the game does not make the players"....this is true in all other sports and games, we just don't remember it because they've been branded extremely well for so long. Baseball is boring, but it's the "national pastime" and the players make the game.....nobody talks about "what the ball did," it's what the players do that's important.
You scare melol
thats true,
on that note news papers are failing all over the country, yet Jeff Bezos the amazon.com founder just blew $250,000,000 this week on the Washington Post, thats 17X earnings, what that means is the real value of the paper was $50,000,000 and he over paid $200,000,000. However he is worth $34,000,000,000(thats billion) So for Jeff the $$$ just dont matter.
here is the link:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...e-suggests-dream-like-nyt-value-real-m-a.html
So whats my point?(not just you CJ, i'm asking everyone)
Ya gotta think big, and to some people a hundred mil here or there dot mean shit, they do things because they want to. Its their toy. Billionaires cant get the $$$ spent no matter what they do(well almost)
So just suppose the people looking at BB are say......Billionaires? now does it really matter? And they are.......so think........
the WHOLE PROBLEM HERE IS SMALL THINKERS, trading hours for dollars and comparing BB to their job or small independent business.
As i have said, we will all know by the middle of the month how this all shakes out. $$$ aint the reason.