Smokey, my friend! With all due respect, I only repeated the case of 2 posters that stated their case. I don't know if this cuemaker is good, or not. That is not the point. The point is that he has unhappy customers and refused to make it right. That's all. Best regards to you, sir.
Prulhiere cue pics - the truth is out!
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hey Charlie...
i read JA or more precisely should say speed-read JA. sri if i got mixed up.
i have carefully read all here on AZ including posts about how wonderful brians cues were for the great prices he was offering them. i did my research before committing myself to 'post'. besides i like the way he handled himself and made no excuses and refused to elaborate on private conversations.
imho you have 2 guys: one who has all of his posts trying to break brian balls. and the other of them who has about 35% of his posts about brian and the rest he is trying to sell a cue. beyond that, they have said nothing on this forum - PERIOD!
a couple of numbnuts imho. like fats said: [paraphrased] ya think you can buy a 4-pointer custom for $225? do you know what a dingleberry is? that is these 2 kumquats.
i know you know i hate gang mentality. and imo this is what was starting here. it is not ok with me, even if i get hurt i won't stand idly by. kind of silly because i had a Jewish mother that thought if i had pimple i had to go to the doctor to make sure it wasn't cancer! if she only knew everything, rest her soul [she didn't and that was best].
again, sri i confused you with another. thanks for pointing that out!
all the best,
smokey
i read JA or more precisely should say speed-read JA. sri if i got mixed up.
i have carefully read all here on AZ including posts about how wonderful brians cues were for the great prices he was offering them. i did my research before committing myself to 'post'. besides i like the way he handled himself and made no excuses and refused to elaborate on private conversations.
imho you have 2 guys: one who has all of his posts trying to break brian balls. and the other of them who has about 35% of his posts about brian and the rest he is trying to sell a cue. beyond that, they have said nothing on this forum - PERIOD!
a couple of numbnuts imho. like fats said: [paraphrased] ya think you can buy a 4-pointer custom for $225? do you know what a dingleberry is? that is these 2 kumquats.
i know you know i hate gang mentality. and imo this is what was starting here. it is not ok with me, even if i get hurt i won't stand idly by. kind of silly because i had a Jewish mother that thought if i had pimple i had to go to the doctor to make sure it wasn't cancer! if she only knew everything, rest her soul [she didn't and that was best].
again, sri i confused you with another. thanks for pointing that out!
all the best,
smokey
Fatboy, you'll be suprised buddy. Believe me you will...finding that there are a lot of cm who sells their work insanily cheap.
(I.e I bought an amazing cue for 350$. 4 veneers, 4 points, highly figured wood. I'll keep the cm name hidden as I don't want to ruin the market more than already is....).
As for Brian's cues, I bought 2 cues from him. Nice players for price. His work on MINE looked flawless. One was a pj and the other one a simple 4 pointer.
Now does any posters here read the thread about Zinzola?! Just asking....
You figure it out....
All the best,
Chris
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I decided to post this on eBay instead. If it doesn't sell, i'll just list it again.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Prulhiere-custom-cue-/300970770609?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item46134180b1
I've been watching these couple of Prulhiere threads closely, as I'm waiting for a cue that I ordered based on previous good reviews before seeing these recent negative ones, and I've been holding my tongue until I see my cue for myself.....but I've got to say, that right there is one of the most childish, petty, unnecessarily vindictive things I have ever seen
In simplest terms, you got a product you weren't happy with. Fine, give your review, return or re-sell the product and move on. That's the risk you take when you buy things site unseen, I don't care if it's a custom cue, a production cue bought online, or a coat you bought on Amazon.
Personally I don't believe either side of the story here is the full story, but I'm not looking to get in the middle of that mess....what baffles me is that you just had someone, who isn't even involved in the transaction, offer to buy you out of the problem and you turned it down.
What exactly are you looking for? When will you actually be happy?
You sound like the kind of person who gets an undercooked hamburger in a restaurant and expects management to make it right by comping you with a free steak dinner, drinks and dessert.......then hangs around outside to tell people not to eat there anyway
If some poor kid buys the cue at your asking price on eBay, not knowing any better, are you going to be proud of yourself for ripping someone else off? Is that pride going to make you feel good enough to move on with your life already?
Worse case scenario, you end up being the lowlife who scams someone out of $500 on a cue you yourself claim to be garbage. Best case scenario, you refuse to sell and break your terms of service with eBay. (if it were less money I'd be tempted to click the buy now button just to see what choice you make)
Though, I suppose you wouldn't mind doing that anyway, considering you've already broken those terms when you posted the ad.
This is his second if not third attempt to run that ad. The last ad was removed under ebays terms of service. This one somehow made the cut.I've been watching these couple of Prulhiere threads closely, as I'm waiting for a cue that I ordered based on previous good reviews before seeing these recent negative ones, and I've been holding my tongue until I see my cue for myself.....but I've got to say, that right there is one of the most childish, petty, unnecessarily vindictive things I have ever seen
In simplest terms, you got a product you weren't happy with. Fine, give your review, return or re-sell the product and move on. That's the risk you take when you buy things site unseen, I don't care if it's a custom cue, a production cue bought online, or a coat you bought on Amazon.
Personally I don't believe either side of the story here is the full story, but I'm not looking to get in the middle of that mess....what baffles me is that you just had someone, who isn't even involved in the transaction, offer to buy you out of the problem and you turned it down.
What exactly are you looking for? When will you actually be happy?
You sound like the kind of person who gets an undercooked hamburger in a restaurant and expects management to make it right by comping you with a free steak dinner, drinks and dessert.......then hangs around outside to tell people not to eat there anyway
If some poor kid buys the cue at your asking price on eBay, not knowing any better, are you going to be proud of yourself for ripping someone else off? Is that pride going to make you feel good enough to move on with your life already?
Worse case scenario, you end up being the lowlife who scams someone out of $500 on a cue you yourself claim to be garbage. Best case scenario, you refuse to sell and break your terms of service with eBay. (if it were less money I'd be tempted to click the buy now button just to see what choice you make)
Though, I suppose you wouldn't mind doing that anyway, considering you've already broken those terms when you posted the ad.
But you got one thing right he's been offered resolution via a few different scenarios and refused all.
The best you can ask for is for it to be made right but I have no sympathy for anyone who prefers to throw a tantrum over resolution.
The user name itself is defamitory, he's lucky ebay hasn't suspended all the accounts he owns yet (the TOS states you can have multiple accounts, but if one breaks the rules they may suspend all)
I hate it when someone gets ripped off. BUT, the op needs to take his complaints to some other place, besides AZ. He has made his point and used this forum far too long now. He needs to move on. I wish him luck but it now needs to be kept between himself and the cuemaker.
Prulhiere cues NEW EBAY NAME
Just a heads up folks. Southern cue is the new MO for this guy. Changed the name but all of the feedback stayed. Guess we are all stupid. Enjoy!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-buil...d=100033&prg=1011&rk=2&rkt=4&sd=300970770609&
Just a heads up folks. Southern cue is the new MO for this guy. Changed the name but all of the feedback stayed. Guess we are all stupid. Enjoy!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-buil...d=100033&prg=1011&rk=2&rkt=4&sd=300970770609&
Agree 100%
Nowadays you can buy a really good cue for less than 300 bucks.
From several companies.
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Ever think he changed the name because of all the recent bs?
I am not hiding from anyone! I changed the ebay name due to the guy running the fake eBay add that they didn't take down. If he wants to try to ruin my business, that is his option, but I have a right to try to survive. Maidenfreaks comment about people being stupid....? Why do think I am calling people stupid by giving my company a name? Do you think I am stupid enough to think no one would figure out it was me? I didn't care if they did. I was just trying to breathe a little fresh life into my business, but I am sure some people here will do what ever they can to stop that even if I have never dealt with them.
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This is a good thing. Lessons have been learned and best I understand the cuemaker is no longer making veneer styled cues.
As I understand his cues that are built using industry standards are in fact fine cues.
Based on that I think not only is it time to move on but time to give the guy a second chance. We've all made mistakes and learned from them.
I'm just going to follow up with this here....
I didn't get a chance to judge the cue for myself. The build took longer then estimated, and there was a misunderstanding of a couple details, so when I got the pic of the final product it wasn't what I had wanted.
Not the optimal outcome, but I wanted to share this: Brian handled it fine. Apologized for the mistake, said he'd refund in a couple days, 4 days later and the money is in my paypal
So, that's that, for whatever it's worth. Not a great experience, but not the nightmare these 2 recent reviews had me worried that it would be either
errrrrrr.....follow up #2 (I didn't see the new posts before responding)
That cue in the link is the butt I had him build.....only difference is the black ring near the end of the butt was maple in the pic I got, with a red "BP" written on it. But the patterns in the burl, grain in the maple and that dark fade up near the joint are all completely identical.
interesting......when I ordered it it was a walnut burl....on eBay it's now camphor burl?
Odd.............Shame for him it went that way.....I was paying more for just the butt than what the full cue sold for on eBay. I feel bad, but that sudden change to a more expensive wood name definitely made me do a WTF double take :scratchhead:
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Let me start by saying Smokey Sounds like a Good Friend and a very Solid Person, judging by his post,,. I think its crazy tho that the OP was soo unhappy with this cue and the quality BUT hes trying to sell it for $500 Wow! some people are unbelievable, he didn't think it was worth $225 when he received it,,, but now he thinks its worth $500 or more.
If you take the time to read the questions/answers at the bottom of that listing, you would understand the sellers position, and mission. I personally don't dis-agree with him. A 'cue builder' should not say the cue is built with hardwoods when it's actually a veneer. It shouldn't have wobbles or finish issues. If you read all that has been said and think the OP is wrong, then buy a cue from Brian, then give a review. kavik79 did, and it sounds like things weren't that great for him either...coincidence? I think not.
Nowadays there are WAY to many 'Cue builders" on the internet that dupe a lot of people out of their money, and cannot deliver a Quality product every time. If they did, we wouldn't see threads like these. If Brian was upfront and honest about how the curly maple was only a veneer, this thread wouldn't of been created In the first place, right?I don't think the buyer would have bought it, knowing this. But he wasn't informed about it, and the buyer is pissed, wouldn't you be? The price paid doesn't exempt the seller from the fact that they misrepresented the product that they are selling. And more recently, it seems he doesn't have a problem selling a cue that has 2 different descriptions as to which woods are in it......
If this is his only income, then he needs to rethink what he does for a living, imo. There are many people that do this for a living and NEVER have these issues.....
My two cents..
Dave
from the horses mouth...
these two dingleberries are useless losers - period.
i am not, nor have i ever been a friend of brian.
i offered both of these dingleberries money to just GO AWAY...
both declined.
brian was wrong to make veneer wraps [which many of us understand] without telling his customers.
on the other hand dingleberry; 1 and dingleberry 2 should have known that what they wanted for the price was not possible -
PREMIER WOOD, A PREMIER CUE FOR A PENNY
ON THE DOLLAR!!
where did these "south ends of a horse traveling north" think they were - in cue making nirvana?
and then you have the moral police saying, OMG!
why don't all of you go home and stfu, finally.
the damage has been done.
as far as i am concerned, brian made me 2 great cues. period.
and for a lot of others too.
all the best,
smokey
p.s. my cheapest harley jacket cost me $585 so this ---hole got a bargain.
FOR THE RECORD: [this edit]
dingleberry 1 = HIRED GUN
dingleberry 2 = TEXASGUY4
just wanted to make the above CLEAR!
these two dingleberries are useless losers - period.
i am not, nor have i ever been a friend of brian.
i offered both of these dingleberries money to just GO AWAY...
both declined.
brian was wrong to make veneer wraps [which many of us understand] without telling his customers.
on the other hand dingleberry; 1 and dingleberry 2 should have known that what they wanted for the price was not possible -
PREMIER WOOD, A PREMIER CUE FOR A PENNY
ON THE DOLLAR!!
where did these "south ends of a horse traveling north" think they were - in cue making nirvana?
and then you have the moral police saying, OMG!
why don't all of you go home and stfu, finally.
the damage has been done.
as far as i am concerned, brian made me 2 great cues. period.
and for a lot of others too.
all the best,
smokey
p.s. my cheapest harley jacket cost me $585 so this ---hole got a bargain.
FOR THE RECORD: [this edit]
dingleberry 1 = HIRED GUN
dingleberry 2 = TEXASGUY4
just wanted to make the above CLEAR!
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My deal is/was with Brian, and I wanted to give him a chance to make good on his word. The money is not the issue as much as the principle for me. Why should I allow someone bail him and let him walk away free and clear?
dingleberry 3 = Smokey