As Co-Captain, I expected Buddy to be around.
Mosconi Cup - Anyone seen Buddy Hall Yet ?
- Thread starter Redneck Jim
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Yea, Saw him tonight. Still a little heavy but looking good.
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Yep, He appeared in audience while Rodney was playing with Darren.
Hopefully he will lift up spirit of the US team
Hopefully he will lift up spirit of the US team
I think they didn't have a shirt for him earlier, but i see they had him lined out when Rodney was playing
Co-captain...what a joke. Where did his Mosconi Cup purse money come from? Did Johnny A. split his with him, or did the whole U.S team pitch in a little bit. Our team treats this like it's free money, more, and more each year. Maybe it's time for it to Asia Vs Europe. When I heard Buddy was going to be a Co-captain it turned me right off. I know Buddy was a great player, I know him pretty well and have played him on a BB in the mid 80's. Johnnyt
I think your a little off base here. Its not free money. These men are professionals. Its their jobs. The fact is like them or not, people want to pay to see them play(Europeans...lol) or in Buddys case, obviously they want to use his HOF name and are willing to pay to get it. Its called appearance fees. I highly doubt Johnny is going to share his money with ANYBODY..lol As for Buddy, as far as i know he didn't have a clue he was going to be asked to help support the team much less go to Vegas until a week before it even started. They called him....
There was a thread on here months ago about him going and Johnny got him the gig because he's his idol. Johnnyt
Yeah - there was also an auction to support his travel expenses.
I didn't read the thread, until recently I've been absent from here for a year or so. I'm pretty sure Buddy didn't tell anybody or either didn't know about it because nobody here knew he was going until a few days before. But you never know with him. Or heck, its always possible i don't have a clue what i'm talking about.... I'll ask him when he gets back.
But the point is these are appearance fees. Promoters are expecting to make money using his name or they wouldn't pay it. He's given his life to this sport and like most doesn't have anything to show for it. If Johnny's trying to help a old friend out throwing him a little jelly out that's OK by me too.
I wasn't enamored with the idea of a fundraiser being done to assist Buddy Hall to get to the Mosconi Cup, however, I absolutely believe he deserves to be there as a non-playing co-captain. And, we'll see how today goes, maybe I'll rethink my position on his status being 'non-playing'. 
The fact that a legend like Buddy even needs funding to attend MC further underscores how sad the state of pool really is.
Buddy has a brilliant mind for the game of 9 ball and is well respected by all of the players. I can't think of any downside and can only imagine him being a steadying influence for our team members as well as possibly providing them a much needed spark from the sidelines.
This is an honor richly deserved, imo.
I am very happy to see him there.
best,
brian kc
The fact that a legend like Buddy even needs funding to attend MC further underscores how sad the state of pool really is.
Buddy has a brilliant mind for the game of 9 ball and is well respected by all of the players. I can't think of any downside and can only imagine him being a steadying influence for our team members as well as possibly providing them a much needed spark from the sidelines.
This is an honor richly deserved, imo.
I am very happy to see him there.
best,
brian kc
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I think that answers a lot of questions on what is happening to pool lately
In the 1970's and 80's the tournaments paid what they pay now and in some cases more, plus there were a lot of them...a lot of them and he won many of them. He probably made even more gambling. He was a top player for 15-20 years. Johnnyt
Can ANY captain do much for the team with these level of players together? What can Buddy say to the guys that Strickland or Archer don't already know? Or even SVB?
If it was a one on one thing, sure, maybe. With 5 of the top players sitting there by the table with you, a Mosconi Cup captain is pretty much a position given out of respect to the old greats. In that case, Buddy Hall is as good a pick as any to go hang out in Vegas with the fellas.
There was a kid in our Jr league that was about to go over the age limit to play in the Jr Nationals. He was not a very good player but was there every week for years to play in the league. He was given a spot this past National so he can have have a chance to experience the event. Did he get there based on qualifications as a player that can compete in the National level? No. Do I think he should have been there due to his commitment and "best effort" and the fact that this was his last chance? Yes, he was there for a good reason.
Buddy Hall being the Co-Captain this year is pretty much that, he's not really there to be a coach or a captain really. He IS getting older, how much more traveling and events like this can he get to? Do they need a Captain? Probably not. Did the pool world need to send someone like Buddy Hall to this event? Yes.
If it was a one on one thing, sure, maybe. With 5 of the top players sitting there by the table with you, a Mosconi Cup captain is pretty much a position given out of respect to the old greats. In that case, Buddy Hall is as good a pick as any to go hang out in Vegas with the fellas.
There was a kid in our Jr league that was about to go over the age limit to play in the Jr Nationals. He was not a very good player but was there every week for years to play in the league. He was given a spot this past National so he can have have a chance to experience the event. Did he get there based on qualifications as a player that can compete in the National level? No. Do I think he should have been there due to his commitment and "best effort" and the fact that this was his last chance? Yes, he was there for a good reason.
Buddy Hall being the Co-Captain this year is pretty much that, he's not really there to be a coach or a captain really. He IS getting older, how much more traveling and events like this can he get to? Do they need a Captain? Probably not. Did the pool world need to send someone like Buddy Hall to this event? Yes.
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We all have a right to our opinions. Johnnyt
50k x 20 = 1m minus a ton of traveling expensive. Plus his backer got a bunch. His main backer is better off today than him. I know that. Plus the normal divorces etc. Plus a lot of incidentals from the day that got a hold of a lot of us. Not a lot of money really when you think about it. One things for sure. Its a lot easier to manage your money when you get a weekly check. Sad really.
I'm sorry, but that's like saying Michael Jordan didn't need coaching!
Team sports need team coaches otherwise or H£LL breaks lose...
And what's the score again?
That would have been from a pro coach of a team sport, not so much by an ex-player from a one-on-one sport. To be a top pro player you need to be all-inclusive into yourself as far as what shots to take, metal game, managing the table, how to adjust your shots to the equipment. Buddy has lots of experience, but not as a coach to a team. And the term "Team" here would using that word very loosely. It's more of a "Group".