Help with picking between two tables

hang-the-9

hang-the-9

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One is a GCIII, good reputation, but standard design. http://worcester.craigslist.org/spo/4257101928.html

Another is same price but is a classic old table with elegance. The GCIII I can get cheaper than what they are asking, so price of buying it is not an issue.
http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/spo/4263294713.html

They both look to have good cloth already on there, and I asked about the cushions, both sellers said they are good with no hard or dead spots.

My preference would be to go with the second table due to the history and I guess you can call it grandness of it. It looks like it has history behind it. But the GCIII is a known product that I know will play well and may be easier to deal with.

How much tougher would that older table be to take part, move and put together? Will it even be tougher? Keep in mind that if possible I'd like to do this myself with a few friends. The other catch is that one of them already moved and setup his own GCIII so we already have some experience there with that model.

My logical side is telling me GCIII, but I just don't know anything about the older tables and both may be the same amount of work to setup.
 
Ultimately, you are going to want a great playing table.

If the GCIII checks out, thats what I'd get. In a heartbeat.

Edit: Even if you change out the cloth and pockets to less hideous choices, that old table doesnt look that grand to me.
 
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I agree with Berko. If you are a player and appreciate a great playing table go with the Gold Crown.
 
berko said:
Ultimately, you are going to want a great playing table.

If the GCIII checks out, thats what I'd get. In a heartbeat.

Edit: Even if you change out the cloth and pockets to less hideous choices, that old table doesnt look that grand to me.
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It's those white pockets they put on :embarrassed2: , take that away and the old table is not bad looking.

I'll probably end up with the GCIII, even though the tan cloth on the old table is not that bad, it's way better than the red most casual players seem to pick. Reminds me of the old Camel tour tables :smile:

A GCIII is just more of a known factor, plus my friend already moved and setup one himself so that's free help right there LOL, save me a few hundred for a table mechanic.

I was kinda hoping that someone would say "Why I worked on those old 1920s tables before, they are super well built and you can take it apart with a screwdriver and carry it to your house in a handkerchief". Deep down in my brain I had a feeling that would not be the case.
 
hang-the-9 said:
It's those white pockets they put I was kinda hoping that someone would say "Why I worked on those old 1920s tables before, they are super well built and you can take it apart with a screwdriver and carry it to your house in a handkerchief". Deep down in my brain I had a feeling that would not be the case.
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The old table could have the wooden slate blocks at the pocket openings - any experience with installing these?
Old table parts are expensive and often hard to come by - any noticeable repairs?
Is the table all original parts or would you have any idea of knowing?
Know anything of its ownership chain - how many times has it been disassembled and/or moved?
 
rikdee said:
The old table could have the wooden slate blocks at the pocket openings - any experience with installing these?
Old table parts are expensive and often hard to come by - any noticeable repairs?
Is the table all original parts or would you have any idea of knowing?
Know anything of its ownership chain - how many times has it been disassembled and/or moved?
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Don't know anything about the table yet, have not seen it in person, and only can guess at the model though the catalog pictures.

I'm pretty sure I'll end up with the Gold Crown.
 
I wouldn't consider anything outside of GC, Centennial and Anniversary if it's a Brunswick.
 
My choice would be the GC if you want to play on it soon. If you wanted a restoration project then I would choose the old table.
 
Personally I love the old T-Rails. By the time GC's were born Brunswick lost interest in Billiards IMO.

Taking it apart is a snap except you need a special tool for the rail bolts. There easy to find. Muellers has them for instance. Putting it together can sometimes be an issue. The rails on these old tables warp. This may not be a problem with the shorter Pool rails. They simply need to be clamped while tightening the bolts.

That green wood can probably be stripped out.
 
hang-the-9 said:
One is a GCIII, good reputation, but standard design. http://worcester.craigslist.org/spo/4257101928.html

Another is same price but is a classic old table with elegance. The GCIII I can get cheaper than what they are asking, so price of buying it is not an issue.
http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/spo/4263294713.html

They both look to have good cloth already on there, and I asked about the cushions, both sellers said they are good with no hard or dead spots.

My preference would be to go with the second table due to the history and I guess you can call it grandness of it. It looks like it has history behind it. But the GCIII is a known product that I know will play well and may be easier to deal with.

How much tougher would that older table be to take part, move and put together? Will it even be tougher? Keep in mind that if possible I'd like to do this myself with a few friends. The other catch is that one of them already moved and setup his own GCIII so we already have some experience there with that model.

My logical side is telling me GCIII, but I just don't know anything about the older tables and both may be the same amount of work to setup.
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The Gold crown that was pictured in the ad was a Gold Crown 1 . You can tell this by the wide chrome trim on the rail. The Gold Crown one tables used a "J" channel to attach the aprons. A Gold Crown 3 uses bolts into a 5/16 insert to attach the aprons.

If you are considering the purchase of this Gold Crown 1 make sure it has a slate bed and not Brunstone.

I have many Brunswick Gold crown 3s in stock and ready for installation for a better price (delivered and installed) than you are spending on that GC 1.

I'm in Manchester NH and service the Western mass area. Give me a call at 603 765 6160.

JAY
 
A-1 billiards said:
The Gold crown that was pictured in the ad was a Gold Crown 1 . You can tell this by the wide chrome trim on the rail. The Gold Crown one tables used a "J" channel to attach the aprons. A Gold Crown 3 uses bolts into a 5/16 insert to attach the aprons.

I never noticed the different trim, that one looks just like mine, I have a GCII, it has the "J" brackets for the aprons but not the full length J brackets. It has 4 or 5 4' long J brackets on each long apron which is what I was told make it a GCII along with the rail hold downs, they are not the figure 8 hold downs.
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