You are out of your mind. :grin-square:
Mark Wilson To Change Face of Mosconi Cup
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You are out of your mind. :grin-square:
well i like that he is wanting our team to have some character that does speak well for the US, but to be honest some of the Euro players attitudes arent wonderful,and their atmosphere at that arena isnt very professional either. I used to like Appleton as a player until he threw the ball on the TV table at the Derby last year,and later that day was being an ass at the straight pool challenge,so their team isnt perfect. I do agree that we should have respectfull players, but what if we have timid losers. I didnt understand why they didnt have Johnny Archer ,Earl,Rodney,Shane,Rob Saez,and CJ playing last year,thats a lot of experienced players there..i think they would win,but it wouldnt be a pretty win. I agree we need to change the image of pool if we can and bring up the younger crowd,but maybe gradually. I remember gambling a guy that i thought was a gentleman that acted like an ass last time,and i wont play him again,because he isnt respectful,so i get that too,and definitly agree,we will see i guess,good luck Mark
You know.. You guys talking about the potential players caused me to do a little searching and I was reminded of machine gun Lou butera.. Easy to forget how good he was considering..
For example:
http://youtu.be/pg9NYHs8RNg
For example:
http://youtu.be/pg9NYHs8RNg
A Good read !
I read the article; from what has been said by Mark it looks very encouraging. The new format will take time and undoubtedly need some adjustment. All I can say is we(PRO & Amateur American pool), should not be judgmental of Mark Wilson's decisions. He and Team USA are going to need our support. Appears to me that now USA has the right car for the race. Now they need to figure out how to win with same. :thumbup:
I read the article; from what has been said by Mark it looks very encouraging. The new format will take time and undoubtedly need some adjustment. All I can say is we(PRO & Amateur American pool), should not be judgmental of Mark Wilson's decisions. He and Team USA are going to need our support. Appears to me that now USA has the right car for the race. Now they need to figure out how to win with same. :thumbup:
Thank you, I needed that.
The only reason I knew that is cuz it takes one to know one.
Look at the video. He said a couple of weeks. He wanted to let the Derby City end so he does not destract folks from it.
I'm not surprised by what MW stated. And I agree with him when he mentioned character and youth. But, at the end he seemed to be making a sell for going young and expecting to lose. He even seemed to agree that he was sending youth to slaughter. What concerns me is that he appears to be only thinking about a youth movement. It's difficult for me to imagine that there isn't at least one seasoned veteran, that may not play the best, but could offer some help for these younger players. Like a Chohan or Stevie or Eberle. I don't think think they come with serious baggage. Heck, even a Varner or a Hopkins type. If you're expecting to lose, at least turn it to a rebuilding process.
Young egos are vulnerable and can hurt their progress. Like a racers first bad wreck. Or a QB getting sacked 45 times as a rookie. They could use someone for guidance when the heat starts turning up. And he won't be by their side the whole time. But a seasoned and well-balanced teammate could help them show improvement.
Respect, Courage, and Commitment!
Young egos are vulnerable and can hurt their progress. Like a racers first bad wreck. Or a QB getting sacked 45 times as a rookie. They could use someone for guidance when the heat starts turning up. And he won't be by their side the whole time. But a seasoned and well-balanced teammate could help them show improvement.
Respect, Courage, and Commitment!
My feelings exactly! I think the mosconi cup needs players that can handle pressure situations! My opinion between dechaine and shorty is simple, dechaine is a greeeeeeaaaat player! Shorty might be a hair under him, BUT, as far as pressure situations,,,, shorty hands down! The mosconi cup is a pressure embodiment. It's not made for everyone, its made for the best who can handle the pressure! Imo, there's no one better than shorty!
Top of what? Not the game. The DCC "just" took place and Archer skipped out of competing in the Bigfoot against the best in the world, he played in one event, 9-ball, did marginally well, and that was it. You compare the commitment that Archer put into the DCC to someone like Efren, Busty, Feijen, Appleton, SVB, or countless other players and he clearly does not make the grade.
If Archer ever wanted to get back to the top of the game again (which I think he might still have the ability to do) he needs to focus solely on professional pool, play ALL of the world events, practice constantly, and commit to the game and being a professional pool player and that alone rather then doing his APB stuff and playing a casual part time list of events.
Archer has not played true full time professional pool in many years and I see nothing that suggests that is going to change any time soon.
I've been a long time Earl fan, as he spent several of his teen years right down the road from me in Baytown, TX, but I've given up on him being able to control himself in a professional manner. I would love to see Chris Bartram on the team, I think he's got the right qualities to help the team. Also think it's a good idea to have a qualifying competition that Mark conducts. If the players have to work hard to get the chance to be on the team, I think the will respect the opportunity more.
Earl will likely never be on the MC again. He basically got suspended from it for years by Matchroom due to his antics and in 2013 was "finally" given another chance.... and he screwed it up.
He is too old now to go through another cooling down period and get another chance in another 5 years. He got his chance, he screwed it up yet again, he is done as far as the MC is concerned I am pretty sure.
I watched him when he got 2nd in th Music City Classic. I thought he looked a lot better than he had. Also heard an interview with him where he said he was working harder at his game. Those are the reasons I said that.
How unfortunate.
That's why Dennis is a Mosconi Cup Champion and was voted MVP in 2009. It was Earl that brought the entire team into a negative dark space. Surround Dennis with positive people who are ready to win and not beat themselves, and you will have a winning team. To just get a bunch of inexperienced young players and put them under the Mosconi Cup heat isn't going to work, but we'll just have to learn another lesson, I would imagine. It certainly can't get any worse than last year. Bringing back Earl proved to be fatal, he is the highest level of negative energy I have ever seen in a team format<<<<<<It's embarrassing........
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Actually, you have a few things backwards. Most of the team is what brought Earl and Shane into a negative dark place. Yes, Dennis was MVP in 2009. After this year, he will probably never play in another cup again, along with a few others.
How does that square with the other thread saying Earl will be playing with Shane in the World Cup of Pool, which is also put on by Matchroom? My guess is that they love him in these events, all the while feigning disappointment in his bad behavior.
If that were true, which I don't believe it's correct, then explain how Earl is now in the World Cup which is produced by the same people as the Mosconi Cup. There are people suspended, but it's not Earl. Earl has always been a big draw for them.