2 Antique cues... ID please

Monstermash

Monstermash

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Hey guys,

I picked these up tonight and I'm lost as to what they may be. I think the first cue with the butterflys (first 2 photos) may be an Oliver Briggs but I'm not 100%. The second cue has veneers, engravings all the way through the butt, handle, and into the points and at some point had a wedge in the buttsleeve.

Any info would be appreciated.











 
Wow! Over 150 views and no one has any ideas at all. This my friends, actually shocks me! :eek:

I know there are some very knowledgable people here. Anyone want to weigh in?
 
i have no idea what it is but i wouldnt mind taking the bottom one off your hands when your ready to get rid of it
 
Second with the carved handle is almost certainly a Rieper. I would say the first one probably is as well. Nice old cues....early 1900s to 1930ish.
 
Thanks guys! :thumbup:

Any idea of what the value might be? I will be looking to sell/trade them once I know what they may be worth.
 
ideologist said:
If they are convertible as one piece cue butts, around $250 per. If not, much less.
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Hmmm... thats very interesting considering the rareness. I found a very similar version to the one with the carved handle listed only without the veneers and it was around $1300 at 70% condition. The BB also went on to state that they were competing directly with Brunswick and although they didn't manufacture as many cues, they specialized in more custom designs. So considered much more rare.

So, while I don't expect to sell them for $1300 I do think that $250 (or less) might be a little on the low side.

Thanks for your imput though.
 
In the Mid 1960's when my dad owned a Pool Room he sold cues called Portiguise (?spelling) which they look a lot like.
 
Monstermash said:
Hmmm... thats very interesting considering the rareness. I found a very similar version to the one with the carved handle listed only without the veneers and it was around $1300 at 70% condition. The BB also went on to state that they were competing directly with Brunswick and although they didn't manufacture as many cues, they specialized in more custom designs. So considered much more rare.

So, while I don't expect to sell them for $1300 I do think that $250 (or less) might be a little on the low side.

Thanks for your imput though.
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The cheesy carving knocks the value, its not a rare collectible. They are neat wall pieces or conversions. If they are Rieper cues. You see a lot of that carving on imports, too.

Post some honest closeups of the veneers. They look too new (60s-70s) to be a turn of the century relic.

Also, it's been a few years since you could use input from the Blue Book on antiques. The economy is still wrecked for billiards items.
 
I've seen enough of the cheap imports to know that these are not.

The carvings on the handle are very well done vs the stuff you see on the cheap imports. Also, I hvae never seen a wedge on one of those cheap imports.

Still I do not know enough about antique cues to make an educated/informed decision. Thats why I posted here and I defer to the experts like Cueaddicts and ToomnyQs.

However, if you would care to give us some background on yourself and why we should take your word as an expert I would be more than willing to listen to your opinion. :thumbup:
 
PM me if you want some details on my recent experience with a Rieper. Have some info. Cheers.
 
Monstermash said:
I've seen enough of the cheap imports to know that these are not.

The carvings on the handle are very well done vs the stuff you see on the cheap imports. Also, I hvae never seen a wedge on one of those cheap imports.

Still I do not know enough about antique cues to make an educated/informed decision. Thats why I posted here and I defer to the experts like Cueaddicts and ToomnyQs.

However, if you would care to give us some background on yourself and why we should take your word as an expert I would be more than willing to listen to your opinion. :thumbup:
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I have been hunting antique Brunswicks for several years now. It's not much of an education, but I have handled hundreds of Brunswicks from the late 1800s to the 1960s, and maybe ten or so Riepers. I have never seen any with such dark veneers, hence my hesitation. The older veneers are always lighter, the way they dyed the wood back then wasn't so good at impregnating the wood thoroughly.

You didn't post closeups, so I shot from the hip a bit, but my answer stands, especially with what Tom Hay stated. They resemble other cues, perhaps.

The double-natural veneers are used on many imports, that's why my thoughts wandered there. Since you are certain they are Riepers, I'm sorry for answering. They are solid cues with great old-growth wood.
 
ideologist said:
I have been hunting antique Brunswicks for several years now. It's not much of an education, but I have handled hundreds of Brunswicks from the late 1800s to the 1960s, and maybe ten or so Riepers. I have never seen any with such dark veneers, hence my hesitation. The older veneers are always lighter, the way they dyed the wood back then wasn't so good at impregnating the wood thoroughly.

You didn't post closeups, so I shot from the hip a bit, but my answer stands, especially with what Tom Hay stated. They resemble other cues, perhaps.

The double-natural veneers are used on many imports, that's why my thoughts wandered there. Since you are certain they are Riepers, I'm sorry for answering. They are solid cues with great old-growth wood.
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Please don't be sorry for weighing in. I value input from folks with knowledge on the subject.

I will have a chance to take some close ups of the veneers and the carvings over the weekend hopefully. Maybe that will help. :thumbup:
 
Don't rule out the saunier-wilhelm company. I have seen the darker color palette in that vignaux style from them.
 
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