My Stolen cue is on eBay

I once bought a stolen double bass off ebay, upon picking it up I realized the bass had a serial number removed with fingernail polish. I made a couple phone calls to the school district and found that they had been missing a couple of instruments, fortunately this one had the serial number engraved in the tuning machine plate and we were able to verify that it was one of the missing instruments. I returned it to the school system and they refunded me my investment, then I approached the pawn shop/seller and they refunded my investment. Granted I only got 950 total for a 10k bass but I felt good about it. I guess the moral of the story is buy it back, use photo identification and try to recoup funds. Worst case scenario the pawn shop has to provide you with the thief credentials once you've proved that it was stolen and the f$XkheD goes to jail. I hope you get your cue back proper
 
The pawn shops original eBay listing listed this cue as a meucci:/

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Here is the Pawnshop website http://www.joespawnshop.net/

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It is not too late to file a police report especially if you have proof of contact with post office. Also contact the police in the city where the pawn shop is and someone there may help you.

Only problem I see in proof is that this appears to be a Q8 McDaniel, and he made a bunch of them.
Joe
 
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Not sure if this is a coincidence or not but there was a guy walking around the sbe trying to sell this model McDaniel cue with 1 shaft for $700. Cue had some finish issues and dings here and there as well. Another thing to add is this guy had 2 cases on him and the one i saw is similar to the one included in the eBay auction.
 
headmuses said:
Trouble with reporting to Ebay the cue is stolen is that is the guy selling the cue will just disappear and the cue does not get returned to the rightful owner. Correct me if I am wrong.
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http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/questions/how-report-violation.html

At least if the cue is not sold online, he knows where it was at last... the pawn shop, if its sold on ebay, you may never find out who bought it...

If its stolen, then their should be proof, if he does not, then to be real honest, he has not leg to stand on... right or wrong unfortunately.
 
What the hell is wrong with people

This really pisses me off... Greg is one of the good guys
I believe in karma but I still don't know why bad things
have to happen to good people:banghead:

Looks like he beat up your cue before pawning it. The
scum of the Earth ruin it for all the decent people.
Sorry this had to happen to you Greg I hope you can
somehow get the cue back in your hands.
 
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i have a similar experience too. i sent my cue. and never get the money. hopefully you can ur cue back soon.
 
What a surprise, the pawn shop owner knows the law regarding stolen goods, did the right thing, contacted his local police, and was informed there is no police stolen property report.

Let's vilify him anyway.
 
I hate to blame the victim here because his only crime was placing too much trust in humankind. However, I find it hard to imagine a situation in which I would ship any item I've sold before I've received payment -- even to most family members. This is especially true in regards to valuable items, it's just common practice and the buyer should understand.

That being said, the blame is still on the scumbag thief. But I don't blame the pawn shop at all. They took in good faith, for value and without knowledge of the transgression. They certainly shouldn't be expected to just take the loss from their purchase because someone else shipped the item before receiving payment. It's just a sh*tty situation, maybe you can ask for a judgment in small claims court against the guy -- if he doesn't show up, you should be able to get a default judgment. If he lives far away from you, that might not be worth your time, it's just too bad police officers don't really have time for these types of things, there are just too many people driving 35 mph in a 30 to deal with.
 
Just buy the cue...then go to cops.
Pawn shops cannot sell stolen merchsndise. It doesnt matter if they know its stolen or nit. So once you prove its yours your credit card company will side with your ninpayment.
So
Buy it
File chargeback
Contact police where pawnshop is, they have to have positive ID on seller....state law. If the seller they provide is theguy you say stole it, then they will arrest his ass...unless they just think you have psychic powers.

I would horsefu#k all of them!
 
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kvinbrwr said:
What a surprise, the pawn shop owner knows the law regarding stolen goods, did the right thing, contacted his local police, and was informed there is no police stolen property report.

Let's vilify him anyway.
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Kevin, the pawn shop didn't call the police to see if there was a report made, I told him there was no report because they told me that since USPS was involved it was a federal offense and I delt with the PO and if any of you know about dealing with the PO you'd know that no one cares. The pawn shop owner won't even call me back, I've called several times and no one will return my call. So, he doesn't care either. I've sent pictures of the cue and postings to the pawn shop to prove that this is the same cue and that it was stolen in Dec 2012 by Chris Wood who lives less than 10 miles from this Joes Pawn Shop and they've done nothing. Bad Pawn Shop
 
File a police report where you live. Until you do that, nobody will care. That is what you have to do, no ifs, ands, or butts. If you don't do that, then you don't care. BTW, I am a police officer in a neighboring jurisdiction. Forget you ever spoke to the post office.
 
howardthedick said:
Kevin, the pawn shop didn't call the police to see if there was a report made, I told him there was no report because they told me that since USPS was involved it was a federal offense and I delt with the PO and if any of you know about dealing with the PO you'd know that no one cares. The pawn shop owner won't even call me back, I've called several times and no one will return my call. So, he doesn't care either. I've sent pictures of the cue and postings to the pawn shop to prove that this is the same cue and that it was stolen in Dec 2012 by Chris Wood who lives less than 10 miles from this Joes Pawn Shop and they've done nothing. Bad Pawn Shop
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Call the police dept in the town where the pawn shop is. Speak to a detective. May be nothing can be done, but they could question the pawn shop.
Joe
 
howardthedick said:
Kevin, the pawn shop didn't call the police to see if there was a report made, I told him there was no report because they told me that since USPS was involved it was a federal offense and I delt with the PO and if any of you know about dealing with the PO you'd know that no one cares. The pawn shop owner won't even call me back, I've called several times and no one will return my call. So, he doesn't care either. I've sent pictures of the cue and postings to the pawn shop to prove that this is the same cue and that it was stolen in Dec 2012 by Chris Wood who lives less than 10 miles from this Joes Pawn Shop and they've done nothing. Bad Pawn Shop
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Greg

Here's what he says which I find plausible as it is what I would do (and have done) in this situation, " I spoke to our police
department. They said that they have no record of a report being filed or
requested down here, and further, the situation that the "victim" claims is
a civil matter rather than a criminal one since he willingly shipped the
item to another party.'

So its hard for me to see the guy as 'bad", but I get your position. I am suggesting that expecting this guy to make any other than sound business decisions in accordance with the law (such as give the cue back to you because you are a nice guy) won't lead to a resolution that you enjoy.

I sort of like the previous poster's idea (better than the one I gave you on the phone), put in a bid of 10K, win the cue for whatever it takes, PayPal him with a credit card, get the cue, and dispute the charge (you will be in the wrong but also in the right) and let him take you to court. At least that way you will be in possession (9/10s blah blah blah)

Kevin
 
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howardthedick said:
I delt with the PO and if any of you know about dealing with the PO you'd know that no one cares.
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And PLEASE let this be a sticky for those that claim using a USPS Postal Money Order is any kind of protection in cue deals.

Slightly off topic I know.
 
Why Bid?

pletho said:
Report the item to ebay as stolen.... they will stop the auction.
As for the federal offence, that means nothing if you have no way to prosecute, do you? Do you know the process, and have the proof they need? If so, do it... asap....

I'm also confused about the money though... you sent the cue without payment first?
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This is not the case. Ebay will not end the auction, they will just tell you it is a civil matter. It has happened to me before. Ex wife sold thousands of dollars of my stuff on ebay. I reported it as stolen to ebay while the listings were active and ebay did nothiing. The only wey the OP is going to get any satisfaction is filing a police report and proving in court that it was never paid for. Or as another poster suggested work out a deal with the pawn shop, or be the winning bidder.
I was going to bid on this cue, but now that I know it is stolen I will not bid. Why drive the price of it up if the OP is going to try and get his cue back. Personally I think that everyone who has bid needs to withdraw their bids and let the OP buy his cue back as cheap as possible. JMO though.
 
Kaydon said:
This is not the case. Ebay will not end the auction, they will just tell you it is a civil matter. It has happened to me before. Ex wife sold thousands of dollars of my stuff on ebay. I reported it as stolen to ebay while the listings were active and ebay did nothiing. The only wey the OP is going to get any satisfaction is filing a police report and proving in court that it was never paid for. Or as another poster suggested work out a deal with the pawn shop, or be the winning bidder.
I was going to bid on this cue, but now that I know it is stolen I will not bid. Why drive the price of it up if the OP is going to try and get his cue back. Personally I think that everyone who has bid needs to withdraw their bids and let the OP buy his cue back as cheap as possible. JMO though.
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Of course its not the case. The reality of things has nothing to do with what people say on AZ. eBay is a business and won't react without court orders or police reports (unless you are a VERO member).

Kevin
 
kvinbrwr said:
What a surprise, the pawn shop owner knows the law regarding stolen goods, did the right thing, contacted his local police, and was informed there is no police stolen property report.

Let's vilify him anyway.
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Kev,

Think there's any harm in someone sending the pawn shop owner the link to this very thread? Couldn't hurt right?

Just a thought.
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