if you could play like a pro?

Mike Sigel. I would go to DCC and clean the fook up.
Chuck

Spot on....

Could not agree more. Probably the most knowledgeable player of all time. And not only at rotation games like 9 ball, he would wipe the floor with you at straight pool, and about any other billiards game.

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If we are talking JUST SKILLS and nothing else, I will choose a 22 year old Earl Strickland.

Earl at that age, at full friggin gallop, was the best there ever was at putting a ball in a pocket from anywhere against anyone dead or living, for any amount of money. He'd shoot your liver out and hand it to ya.

Lesh
 
Pretty easy one for me ... Mike Sigel in his prime and the game is 14.1

Shouldn't be a problem since I'm a lefty and own 20 of his high-end customs.

Yeah, right ... Me play like Mike ... in my wildest dreams maybe.
 
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I wish i was a bit older to actually see mike play in his prime, same with efren and strickland.
 
I wish i was a bit older to actually see mike play in his prime, same with efren and strickland.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xfz7rpVBVjQ
This was early 90s, towards the end of his "prime", but even today, hes still a freakin monster if hes in stroke.
A lot of people new to the game only know the IPT Mike which IMO was some of the worst matches he ever played. He wasnt in stroke and his confidence was down. It showed in his game. Late 80s Sigel was almost unbeatable in tournaments, and his cash game wasnt bad either..... :D
Chuck
 
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xfz7rpVBVjQ
This was early 90s, towards the end of his "prime", but even today, hes still a freakin monster if hes in stroke.
A lot of people new to the game only know the IPT Mike which IMO was some of the worst matches he ever played. He wasnt in stroke and his confidence was down. It showed in his game. Late 80s Sigel was almost unbeatable in tournaments, and his cash game wasnt bad either..... :D
Chuck


awsum video..damn those camera were huge..hate to be the camera man!!
 
Dennis Orcullo

I'd video tape myself from every single angle doing every kind of shot I can think of from everywhere on the table.

Then when I get back to myself I'd try to mould myself after the fundamentals he has because we're about the same size.
 
What the heck are you guys thinking

Buddy hall in the mid to late seventies. He have everybody the seven and killed. Oh except sigel , he only gave him the last two. To have his cue ball control. Wow!
 
Buddy hall in the mid to late seventies. He have everybody the seven and killed. Oh except sigel , he only gave him the last two. To have his cue ball control. Wow!

I really have to say, never heard Buddy offering weight to Sigel lol. Sigel was beating Efren quite a lot, did Buddy offer Efren weight? That's like putting a loaded revolver to your head with only one empty slot in the cylinder, and taking a spin.
But after 9 ball (regardless how it went with the rolls in a set etc...), what then? Mike would have cleaned him at straight pool and one pocket.
 
Buddy and Efren

Buddy Hall was the only guy to beat Efren when he snuck into Red's as Ceasar Morales. Efren has said in the past that Buddy was the 1 guy he didn't lie to gamble with. "He always beat me!" Smiling the whole time.
Here's a thread about the story from Red's:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=269142


I'd come back as the best combo of both of these gentlemen.


I really have to say, never heard Buddy offering weight to Sigel lol. Sigel was beating Efren quite a lot, did Buddy offer Efren weight? That's like putting a loaded revolver to your head with only one empty slot in the cylinder, and taking a spin.
But after 9 ball (regardless how it went with the rolls in a set etc...), what then? Mike would have cleaned him at straight pool and one pocket.
 
Buddy Hall was the only guy to beat Efren when he snuck into Red's as Ceasar Morales. Efren has said in the past that Buddy was the 1 guy he didn't lie to gamble with. "He always beat me!" Smiling the whole time.
Here's a thread about the story from Red's:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=269142


I'd come back as the best combo of both of these gentlemen.

I remember Grady Matthews telling me all about Reds a few weeks after he returned from that tournament. But to add, Sigel had one time pointed out quite a few weaknesses in Efren's 9 ball game back then, that were later corrected. However, just like when I look at Sigel vs Hall, when I look at Efren vs Hall, I look at all the other games Efren is superior at as well. Not just 9 ball.
 
When buddy tortured mike in Shreveport he was spotting him the last two. Yeah mike would beat him at one pocket and straights. Buddy never was that interested in those games, but buddy had the best cue ball ever and those are control games so if he invested the time I think he could contend lol
 
I remember watching the finals of a tournament in Tulsa years ago with Buddy and a very young Danny Harriman.

Things I remember about that match:

1. I was very young and new to the game.
2. Thinking Danny was an amazing spectacle to watch, making shots from everywhere that I couldn't dream of making.
3. Thinking Buddy was the most boring player to watch I had ever seen.

Many years later, after a decade of playing and paying dues, I realized the irony in my thoughts about that match. Buddy seemed boring because every shot he had to take was 1-3 feet away, and positioned perfectly for minimal effort. Buddy won that match by the way.

The brilliance in his cue ball is lost to the eyes of a novice.
 
When buddy tortured mike in Shreveport he was spotting him the last two. Yeah mike would beat him at one pocket and straights. Buddy never was that interested in those games, but buddy had the best cue ball ever and those are control games so if he invested the time I think he could contend lol

I have quite a few old videos of Sigel doing the same to Hall (9 Ball) btw.

And as they say, Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda, don't mean much.
 
Of all the pros I've seen play, I think on any given day any of them can spot the other a ball and it wouldn't matter. I think pool players like baseball pitchers, when their in the zone, you can just leave the bat or cue in the dugout 😂
 
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