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Which is More Difficult -- Finding the Ghost Ball or Adjusting for Squirt/Swerve?
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I tend to agree with you but we talk an awful lot about learning and practicing around here.
There's nothing wrong with taking things to the practice table is there?
Maybe, maybe not. It depends on what your goals are.
It seems for me, finding the ghost ball is more difficult. I can't visualize it. Never could, never will be able to. I admire and respect those that can play purely using ghost ball, but I doubt there is a single person past or present that aims every shot at a point on the table where the centre of the ghost ball would be.
Adjusting for swerve/squirt/throw for me atleast only takes a couple of hours max with a new cue. BHE makes life a bit easier for adjusting, so I've got about 15 or so black marks on my shaft that if drawn on to bridge from for certain types of shots then I just pivot to the desired tip position I need. It makes a nice new shaft or cue look kinda crappy but it serves a purpose.
Adjusting for swerve/squirt/throw for me atleast only takes a couple of hours max with a new cue. BHE makes life a bit easier for adjusting, so I've got about 15 or so black marks on my shaft that if drawn on to bridge from for certain types of shots then I just pivot to the desired tip position I need. It makes a nice new shaft or cue look kinda crappy but it serves a purpose.
The "Ghost Dart" "Ghost Bowling Ball" "Ghost Golf Ball" - The Haunted Games
I wonder if professional dart players use the "Ghost Dart" system? Maybe bowlers use the "Ghost Bowling Ball"....and golfers use the "Ghost Golf Ball" System.....hmmmmm:wink:
I wonder if professional dart players use the "Ghost Dart" system? Maybe bowlers use the "Ghost Bowling Ball"....and golfers use the "Ghost Golf Ball" System.....hmmmmm:wink:
I wonder if professional dart players use the "Ghost Dart" system? Maybe bowlers use the "Ghost Bowling Ball"....and golfers use the "Ghost Golf Ball" System.....hmmmmm:wink:
I played pro golf and always used a spot about 18" in front of my ball to aim with. That's with ball striking and putting. Most others do this as well...
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Ha of course not CJ, they all use TOI! I kid, but you make a valid point in that none of the sports mentioned aim at an imaginary point or object, all are 'aiming' for a fixed point.I wonder if professional dart players use the "Ghost Dart" system? Maybe bowlers use the "Ghost Bowling Ball"....and golfers use the "Ghost Golf Ball" System.....hmmmmm:wink:
I've dabbled in golf but to no real standard. Its extremely mechanics and technique based from what I gathered, hence why I was never any good at it!
I bowled as a little whipper snapper at birthday parties so I have zero knowledge of the sport. I'm guessing they visualize the path they want, the angle they want to go into the pins and the rest is down to their experience and technical ability...a lot like pool may I add.
Dart is something I have played, and to a national standard when I was in my late teens. If I knew how big the sport would become I'd have carried it on! Again, its down to technical ability and experience. I don't visualize the flight so much, I point the tip of the flight at when I want to hit, and through throwing the dart as close to the same every time as I can it would go where I intended usually.
But it seems there is a love of over complicating pool on this site. Your own method, TOI, keeps things quite simple which I'm sure had a part to play in all your success as a player.
I guess I wasn't that clear in my OP. When I mentioned the ghost ball I was really only referring to that spot that the cue ball must land in order to pocket the object ball. It's sort of like ghost ball aiming vs. the ghost ball. I wasn't really meaning that you had to actually see the ghost ball in your mind's eye or even "aim" using the ghost ball method. I've seen people refer to "The Ghost Ball" in this sort of way on here recently. Maybe it's a bad idea since it's a bit confusing.
The marking up of your shafts sounds a bit complicated doesn't it?
I like it though. That was sort of what I was thinking about. Everybody spends all this time talking about just lining up simple no english shots but there's not much talk about how everybody compensates for squirt & swerve, which most people think is a much more difficult thing to do. Marking down your cue's pivot point seems really interesting to me.
As far as overcomplicating things go -- I'm pretty good at compartmentalizing. I think about pool during the day and I'll take a thing or two with me to the practice table for a bit but for the most part I leave all the gritty details of pool far away from the competition table and I just play.
Yeah I never said I wasn't one of the over complicators!I guess I wasn't that clear in my OP. When I mentioned the ghost ball I was really only referring to that spot that the cue ball must land in order to pocket the object ball. It's sort of like ghost ball aiming vs. the ghost ball. I wasn't really meaning that you had to actually see the ghost ball in your mind's eye or even "aim" using the ghost ball method. I've seen people refer to "The Ghost Ball" in this sort of way on here recently. Maybe it's a bad idea since it's a bit confusing.
The marking up of your shafts sounds a bit complicated doesn't it?
I like it though. That was sort of what I was thinking about. Everybody spends all this time talking about just lining up simple no english shots but there's not much talk about how everybody compensates for squirt & swerve, which most people think is a much more difficult thing to do. Marking down your cue's pivot point seems really interesting to me.
As far as overcomplicating things go -- I'm pretty good at compartmentalizing. I think about pool during the day and I'll take a thing or two with me to the practice table for a bit but for the most part I leave all the gritty details of pool far away from the competition table and I just play.
the marking of my shaft did seem to over complicate things, but now its marked its made things so simple. Say I have to hit a shot 2 tips high 1 tip right with a slightly jacked up than normal cue...I have a mark for that so I just bridge on the mark. The marks are wearing off now somewhat, but I've got it drilled into my memory of where to grip the butt so my bridge goes to the correct pivot point for the type of shot I'm using. I understand what you mean when you say ghost ball. Either way I find it tough to use. I can judge where the centre of the CB should be to pocket the ball fine, but I don't set up right (my set up is massively based upon SEE, so I have only 3 different ways in which I align my body).
I wonder if professional dart players use the "Ghost Dart" system? Maybe bowlers use the "Ghost Bowling Ball"....and golfers use the "Ghost Golf Ball" System.....hmmmmm:wink:
Efren uses ghost pocket system. :wink: