Using TOI to Aim at Contact Points

[CJ Wiley]

Using the Touch of Inside also helps if you like to aim at contact points on the object ball if you desire. When you "aim" the center of the cue ball {at a "contact point") you'll undercut shots, but if you use TOI it will help your mind make the adjustment more effectively.

Anyone noticed that uses "Contact Point Aiming" combined with TOI? I use a slightly different "aiming system" combined with TOI which is taught in my 'Ultimate Pool Secrets' DVD (it's 'The Ultimate Aiming System').

 

[Mitchxout]

Using the Touch of Inside also helps if you like to aim at contact points on the object ball if you desire. When you "aim" the center of the cue ball {at a "contact point") you'll undercut shots, but if you use TOI it will help your mind make the adjustment more effectively.

Anyone noticed that uses "Contact Point Aiming" combined with TOI? I use a slightly different "aiming system" combined with TOI which is taught in my 'Ultimate Pool Secrets' DVD (it's 'The Ultimate Aiming System').

This is so easy it's like cheating.:thumbup:

 

[CJ Wiley]

Amplifying the Sense of Feel and Touch in Pocket Billiards

This is so easy it's like cheating.:thumbup:

Yes, it's something that's easy to catch on to right away. My 'Ultimate Aiming System' is more of a sectional system, however, once I'm aligned to the shot I could easily look at a spot on the object ball like you do......I just choose to "be aware of the object ball," so my sense of feel/touch is heightened as much as possible.

When we limit one sense it automatically amplifies other ones....it's like when the lights are suddenly turned off we instantly reach out our hands and feel things. I do this by limiting my visual sense once I'm down on the shot so my sense of feel/touch amplifies. I have a way to do this and will explain it one of these days if anyone's interested.

 

[Ralph Kramden]

Yes, it's something that's easy to catch on to right away.

I have a way to do this and will explain it one of these days if anyone's interested.

Explaining something today, that's easy to catch on to, would be nice...
I would be interested in anything that's easy to catch on to right away. :thumbup2:

 

[Mitchxout]

CJ, using TOI to aim the shaft at the contact point is the nuts for jacked up shots. :bow-down:

 

[Mikjary]

I can use contact points to aim. I even took it a step further and figured out how my pool brain compensates for the undercut and turned it into a personal aiming system. It's what I call a reverse fractional aiming method known only to me. :smile:

I can use TOI with it, but I make a small adjustment. Now it's automatic. TOI works with all aiming systems, although Pro One has a built in over cut on a lot of shots.

Best,
Mike

 

[CJ Wiley]

Developing YOUR best style by incorporating the principles of the 'Touch of Inside'.

CJ, using TOI to aim the shaft at the contact point is the nuts for jacked up shots. :bow-down:

Yes, like anything else you can use TOI to calibrate YOUR best way to play. I can only lead a player to TOI, I can't figure out exactly how it will benefit them the most effectively....although this is what's ask of me in private lessons. The key to playing YOUR best game is to develop YOUR best style, incorporating the principles of the 'Touch of Inside'.

Play Well, The TOI GAME is your Teacher

 

[Mitchxout]

Yes, like anything else you can use TOI to calibrate YOUR best way to play. I can only lead a player to TOI, I can't figure out exactly how it will benefit them the most effectively....although this is what's ask of me in private lessons. The key to playing YOUR best game is to deyvelop YOUR best style, incorporating the principles of the 'Touch of Inside'.

Play Well, The TOI GAME is your Teacher

On thinner cuts I aim with the inside of the cueball so I basically have 2 aims to deal with. Easy peasy, really. :grin-loving:

Also, thanks for the cool autographed pic of Earl shooting the famous 1-9 combo.

 

[CJ Wiley]

your game will get better and better.

On thinner cuts I aim with the inside of the cueball so I basically have 2 aims to deal with. Easy peasy, really. :grin-loving:

Also, thanks for the cool autographed pic of Earl shooting the famous 1-9 combo.

That's right, pool really is an easy game when you learn the "inside secrets"......and you're welcome, glad you like the pic.....play well, your game will get better and better.

 

[LAMas]

I can use contact points to aim. I even took it a step further and figured out how my pool brain compensates for the undercut and turned it into a personal aiming system. It's what I call a reverse fractional aiming method known only to me. :smile:

I can use TOI with it, but I make a small adjustment. Now it's automatic. TOI works with all aiming systems, although Pro One has a built in over cut on a lot of shots.

Best,
Mike

Mike,
I would like to hear more about "reverse fractional aiming". I am sure that it is a good method coming from you.:smile:

 

[Mitchxout]

Yes, like anything else you can use TOI to calibrate YOUR best way to play. I can only lead a player to TOI, I can't figure out exactly how it will benefit them the most effectively....although this is what's ask of me in private lessons. The key to playing YOUR best game is to develop YOUR best style, incorporating the principles of the 'Touch of Inside'.

Play Well, The TOI GAME is your Teacher

Using TOI and shaft aiming sets my cue at a certain angle every time. It's similar to keeping your golf swing on plane. K.I.S.S. :thumbup:

 

[Mikjary]

Mike,
I would like to hear more about "reverse fractional aiming". I am sure that it is a good method coming from you.:smile:

Big E...for you, I'll draw something up. :thumbup: Give me some time and I'll get back to you.

I use it for cuts around 7-10 degrees and up to 30 degrees (half ball hits).

Best,
Mike

 

[LAMas]

Big E...for you, I'll draw something up. :thumbup: Give me some time and I'll get back to you.

I use it for cuts around 7-10 degrees and up to 30 degrees (half ball hits).

Best,
Mike

Mike,
Thanks in advance. You were one of the first to diagram for me, how to expand one's aiming ability by using the edge of the CB in conjunction with the popular center of the CB aiming.

I found this to be better than the ghost ball and DD aiming for cut angles greater than 30 degrees (CTE) where the spot to aim at is no longer a discrete spot or fraction visualized on the OB, but off of the edge of the OB on the felt or far rail or......

Be well.

 

[Mikjary]

Mike,
Thanks in advance. You were one of the first to diagram for me, how to expand one's aiming ability by using the edge of the CB in conjunction with the popular center of the CB aiming.

I found this to be better than the ghost ball and DD aiming for cut angles greater than 30 degrees (CTE) where the spot to aim at is no longer a discrete spot or fraction visualized on the OB, but off of the edge of the OB on the felt or far rail or......

Be well.

I can't take credit for using the edge of the cue ball. Stan Shuffett got me thinking along those lines, among others. My subconscious knew it, but I didn't!

Best,
Mike

 

[CJ Wiley]

when I'm playing my best I'm mostly aware of "Edges and Centers"

You hit the "nail on the head" (without aiming)

Our subconscious already knows the best way to aim......it only takes some "remembering" thought the study of CTE or ETC - when I'm playing my best I'm mostly aware of "Edges and Centers" of the cue ball and object balls - whether it's straight in shots, angled shots, combinations, caroms, kicks, or bank shots (TIP BANKING).

The end result is to "aim" without thinking about aiming - this is a process that requires a willingness to "give up the old," to replace with the new (ideas, thoughts and attitudes about aiming). 'The Game will Teach when the Student is Ready"

I can't take credit for using the edge of the cue ball. Stan Shuffett got me thinking along those lines, among others. My subconscious knew it, but I didn't!

Best,
Mike

 

[CJ Wiley]

TOI as "center" that gives the right perception

Using TOI and shaft aiming sets my cue at a certain angle every time. It's similar to keeping your golf swing on plane. K.I.S.S. :thumbup:

Yes, there's something that "clicks" using the TOI as "center" that gives the right perception...not for everyone, but TOI does for everyone I've trained with.

 

[Mitchxout]

CJ, does it matter if the cue rotates? I've discovered that my stroke is mostly straight but my tip rotates one way on the backswing, then the other going forward.

 

[CJ Wiley]

moving straight through the cue ball/tip relationship like a surgeon's scalpel.

CJ, does it matter if the cue rotates? I've discovered that my stroke is mostly straight but my tip rotates one way on the backswing, then the other going forward.

I don't like to see the cue rotating because the tip reflects what your hand is doing. My suggestion is to pay attention to the area (V) between your thumb and forefinger on your back hand. Make sure the part of that "V" on top of your cue is moving straight through the cue ball/tip relationship like a surgeon's scalpel....

....what's important is it's precise, and doesn't twist one way or the other (creating a situation where your tip is rotating as you mentioned in your post).

You can tell a lot from how a player's tip moves through the cue ball.....more than many people "real eyes," and that's one of the keys I focus on when evaluating a players true playing level.

 

[Mitchxout]

CJ, remember the famous golf ambassador, Harvey Penick? He was from your area. He said, "If you have a bad grip, you don't want a good swing."

 

[JayCall]

You hit the "nail on the head" (without aiming)

Our subconscious already knows the best way to aim......it only takes some "remembering" thought the study of CTE or ETC - when I'm playing my best I'm mostly aware of "Edges and Centers" of the cue ball and object balls - whether it's straight in shots, angled shots, combinations, caroms, kicks, or bank shots (TIP BANKING).

The end result is to "aim" without thinking about aiming - this is a process that requires a willingness to "give up the old," to replace with the new (ideas, thoughts and attitudes about aiming). 'The Game will Teach when the Student is Ready"

i have purchased all of your videos and i am interested in how your ultimate aiming system ties in with toi?? i have experimented with it since i read this post and i real eyes that i was doing this subconsciously on shots up to half ball shots.. hmmm

maybe another video on using them combined in the future???

i do find that when i am playing tired, which is most of the time because of my day job, i seem to rely on TOI the most because my brain is tired and I am able to focus better at that point... I always start out a session or match with the full range of the cueball in mind but i always seem to gravitate back to toi... interesting... I really must have a thick skull... lol