Prove CTE does not work.

JB Cases said:
Lou won't win. I know what I need to work on. What flaws? Bustamante moves more than a gymnast on crack. I know I have issues but you guys are missing the point that I am making. In this video doing Joey's challenge shot I bobbled one ball and made all the rest with and without sidespin.

Only when I went to the rail shot with extreme english did I miss a couple and I explained the reasons why and what I would do to correct it. I also made several of the rail shots.
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Bustamante's movements are all during his warm up strokes, but his final forward stroke is pure and straight. Your arm twists at contact.

We all picked on Duckie for posting videos of easy shots, and it's no different with your latest video. Every shot you took on was relatively easy with or without a system, and all of your fundamental errors aren't going to show up on those shots. It's when you have tougher shots and are under pressure that they will rear their ugly head.

And just remember one thing, John. I'm on your side. I want(ed) you to beat Lou, or any other person that stands to be dismissive of CTE/Pro One. So don't take these critiques as personal attacks on you. I just genuinely want to see you improve.
 
ps611846 said:
Bustamante uses shoulder movement on purpose. Not because of false alignment to the shot. His stroke, his feet positions and his delivery is perfect. You don't know what you are talikng about.

You arm movement is a result of false alignment. Your brain gets into this at the last moment because the shot doesn't feel ok. But this happens on the final stroke. And it's too late.
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Wanna bet on that?

Set up 10 shots and I will make every single one of them on video with a dead straight follow through.

Do you know Francisco?

I do. I have known him for 22 years. I made him his first custom case. I have hung out with him for hours at a time at countless tournaments.

I was exxagerating a little, while his form is not textbook perfect, his delivery is perfectly consistent and his aim is deadly accurate. He infuriated the Germans in the 90s with his semingly loosey-goosey pump and lost-in-space sighting on the ball - those perfect Germans with their perfect form - Busty ran over them giving out weight that insured they HAD TO PLAY or quit pool forever.

I know him very well. And I know that everything you think you see isn't always what it appears to be.

That said, I also know I have a lot of flaws that need to be corrected. That won't stop me from cheerleading when I feel like it.
 
BeiberLvr said:
Bustamante's movements are all during his warm up strokes, but his final forward stroke is pure and straight. Your arm twists at contact.

We all picked on Duckie for posting videos of easy shots, and it's no different with your latest video. Every shot you took on was relatively easy with or without a system, and all of your fundamental errors aren't going to show up on those shots. It's when you have tougher shots and are under pressure that they will rear their ugly head.

And just remember one thing, John. I'm on your side. I want(ed) you to beat Lou, or any other person that stands to be dismissive of CTE/Pro One. So don't take these critiques as personal attacks on you. I just genuinely want to see you improve.
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That shot was Joey Bautista's challenge from earlier in the thread.

I am not taking it as an attack on me. You don't know me. I won $2700 making pressure shots all night for three nights in a row. The match with Lou doesn't count, almost no amateur player on here will ever face the pressure I was under when I played him, and I am not talking about the money. I put myself into a very bad emotional state 30 minutes before the match. I am going to bet that not many of you would have held it together under that same situation.

And FOR THE RECORD in that match, I made a LOT of the actual "tough" shots under pressure, and flat out dogged the easy ones. I'd like to keep the record straight on this.

Don't make this about me. It's about the fact that no one will step up and prove that CTE doesn't work. I prove that it does, even for a washed up hack like myself.
 
JB Cases said:
I don't understand your criticism? I went back and watched the video. I made all the shots that Joey challenged with except one that rattled in the corner.

My trouble came when I chose to go further and put the cue ball on the rail and shoot it with extreme spin. As Stan and everyone else has said, when using side spin all bets are off because of all the variables around squirt and deflection.

Sooooo..... as I said in the video that is a shot I would need to work on and figure out the best method to use, be it CTE/ProOne through asking advice from Stan or Gerry or whomever could help me - OR by choosing another method, such as Ghost Ball with adjustment. That was the point.

CTE/Pro One WORKS with weak fundamentals as well because the GOAL with CTE is to get on the shot line.

So as long as you are able to do that you can still be weak in execution and you will still make more shots because you are on the right shot line.

IF you have a great laser stroke then sure it's much better, as I have said a zillion times. I have also said that one of the flipsides to using CTE is that once on the right shot line it's EASY to throw the cue ball off the line with a bad stroke.

I don't mind your criticism, just make sure it's properly placed. As I said I will film myself in slow motion to better see whatever it is that you think you see. As for my videos and how I choose to make them, don't worry about it. I put them out when I have time to make them which isn't much and I am certain I have been very helpful in introducing people to CTE throughout the world. I know that wherever I go someone asks me to demonstrate it in person and so far I haven't met any one who was not convinced that it works after I showed them.

So even if I am not doing it dead perfect I am doing it well enough to make a proper introduction and turn them over to someone like Stan.
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Again, no problem with you and no criticism. Cte oro one doesn't work with weak fundamentals. You played a very very easy shot in that video. And you were not able to split the pocket. Pls, try to make the shot I posted above. Ob at the center of the table. Cb at 3 diamonds distance. The shot that Stan and Gerry play a lot in their videos. Shoot to both left and right corner pockets. A inside and c inside. How often are you able to make this shot? And you can also play straight ins with cb-ob distance 3,5 to 4 diamonds and the ob at least 2,5 diamonds from the pocket. Can you make this shots with stop? Cb must stop dead. How often? Try, and post your video. And I will make a post and say that cte pro one works with any kind of stroke and poor fundamentals.
 
ps611846 said:
Again, no problem with you and no criticism. Cte oro one doesn't work with weak fundamentals. You played a very very easy shot in that video. And you were not able to split the pocket. Pls, try to make the shot I posted above. Ob at the center of the table. Cb at 3 diamonds distance. The shot that Stan and Gerry play a lot in their videos. Shoot to both left and right corner pockets. A inside and c inside. How often are you able to make this shot? And you can also play straight ins with cb-ob distance 3,5 to 4 diamonds and the ob at least 2,5 diamonds from the pocket. Can you make this shots with stop? Cb must stop dead. How often? Try, and post your video. And I will make a post and say that cte pro one works with any kind of stroke and poor fundamentals.
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On monday if I have time. By the way I shot that very shot you want me to shoot earlier today. I said to myself, you're playing this shot for your life, focus up and I split the pocket.

I wish you guys would pay attention. I SHOT JOEY'S SHOT. Read the thread. earlier Joey challenged me to use CTE AND SIDESPIN on THAT SHOT. That was the purpose of the video.

I split the damn pocket EVERY SINGLE TIME when I shot it with CENTER CUE BALL. 4.33" pockets.

I missed ONCE with side spin - the 14 bobbled.

Then I went to the rail shots and I made the ball every time with center ball. I missed a few with side spin trying to apply extreme spin and when I made the correction I made them.

So again, appreciate it but I don't think your criticism is fair for this particular video.
 
JB Cases said:
On monday if I have time. By the way I shot that very shot you want me to shoot earlier today. I said to myself, you're playing this shot for your life, focus up and I split the pocket.

I wish you guys would pay attention. I SHOT JOEY'S SHOT. Read the thread. earlier Joey challenged me to use CTE AND SIDESPIN on THAT SHOT. That was the purpose of the video.

I split the damn pocket EVERY SINGLE TIME when I shot it with CENTER CUE BALL. 4.33" pockets.

I missed ONCE with side spin - the 14 bobbled.

Then I went to the rail shots and I made the ball every time with center ball. I missed a few with side spin trying to apply extreme spin and when I made the correction I made them.

So again, appreciate it but I don't think your criticism is fair for this particular video.
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Ok, thanks for your response. Can you pls play the shot at least 10 times in a row to the left corner and same thing to the right corner pocket ? And after that, I would like to see 10 straight ins using stop and ob at least 2,5 diamonds from the pocket. And cb-ob distance from 3 up to 5 diamonds.

Thank you

Panagiotis
 
ps611846 said:
Ok, thanks for your response. Can you pls play the shot at least 10 times in a row to the left corner and same thing to the right corner pocket ? And after that, I would like to see 10 straight ins using stop and ob at least 2,5 diamonds from the pocket. And cb-ob distance from 3 up to 5 diamonds.

Thank you

Panagiotis
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Can you demonstrate that first? I will follow your lead.
 
JB Cases said:
Can you demonstrate that first? I will follow your lead.
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This post shows that you are not able to do it. It's pretty bad the way you react. You know what I believe? That you already know that you can't make thses shots. Not even 2 out of 10. I will stop talking with you. You have a problem with yourself. And that's why you have the feeling that everyone is against you.

When I post my video I will let you know.

Good luck with your practice and your game.
 
ps611846 said:
This post shows that you are not able to do it. It's pretty bad the way you react. You know what I believe? That you already know that you can't make thses shots. Not even 2 out of 10. I will stop talking with you. You have a problem with yourself. And that's why you have the feeling that everyone is against you.

When I post my video I will let you know.

Good luck with your practice and your game.
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You want to bet against it? The last guy that tried that lost a hundred to me.

I have no problem when the criticism is warranted. I read what you wrote and went back to look at the video to see the flaws you talked about. I don't see them, I don't see the misses you claimed were there.

So how much do you want to bet that I can make the shots better than 50%?
 
ps611846 said:
And I didn't mean make it 10 times in a row. Just play it 10 times in a row. And see how many you can make out of ten.
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I just shot it. That was tough! 30 shots, took 15 minutes if you feel like watching a banger miss;)

http://youtu.be/tnkjEhXcyp8

Results were:

the left cut 6/10
right cut 3/10
Stop shot 7/10 (although not 100% perfect no-spin stop shot).

16/30 total make ratio.

A gamoto;)
 
JB Cases said:
You want to bet against it? The last guy that tried that lost a hundred to me.

I have no problem when the criticism is warranted. I read what you wrote and went back to look at the video to see the flaws you talked about. I don't see them, I don't see the misses you claimed were there.

So how much do you want to bet that I can make the shots better than 50%?
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I got 16/30 my first attempt. You better damn well get at least 23/30, as you are 3 times my speed.
 
Ok, this thread is too addictive... have to run. Please don't shoot my video to pieces, lol. God dealt me a short hand in the eye-hand coordination department;)
 
JB Cases said:
You want to bet against it? The last guy that tried that lost a hundred to me.

I have no problem when the criticism is warranted. I read what you wrote and went back to look at the video to see the flaws you talked about. I don't see them, I don't see the misses you claimed were there.

So how much do you want to bet that I can make the shots better than 50%?
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I will say that once again. I don't have any problem with you. I watched your match and I wanted you to win. If I make a "negative" comment on your game and your stroke, it doesn't mean I am attacking or I hate you !!!
Now for the shots we were talking about. In my opinion, you are not able to execute them with accuracy. Your best could be 3 out of ten. And if you play the shot 100 times your best will be about 25. If you work on your fundamentals, this will change.

Panagiotis
 
iusedtoberich said:
I got 16/30 my first attempt. You better damn well get at least 23/30, as you are 3 times my speed.
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Your first attempt at what? As for being 3x your speed who knows. You call yourself a c player and maybe you are. So what since letter designations don't mean much from place to place.
 
ps611846 said:
I will say that once again. I don't have any problem with you. I watched your match and I wanted you to win. If I make a "negative" comment on your game and your stroke, it doesn't mean I am attacking or I hate you !!!
Now for the shots we were talking about. In my opinion, you are not able to execute them with accuracy. Your best could be 3 out of ten. And if you play the shot 100 times your best will be about 25. If you work on your fundamentals, this will change.

Panagiotis
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Well we will see. I am sure I can easily do better than 3. If I play any shot 100 times my make percentage will be way way higher than 50 percent.

I know you mean well.

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JB Cases said:
Your first attempt at what? As for being 3x your speed who knows. You call yourself a c player and maybe you are. So what since letter designations don't mean much from place to place.
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The thing ps611846 has asked you to do the last two pages? Weren't you paying attention? I did it for the hell of it.

I know speeds pretty well... C+ on a nationwide gambling scale, where an A will cash in regional open events, that are won by Open and Pros.
 
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