WHAT A RACKET! Is this the next cue?

HawaiianEye

HawaiianEye

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I just read this article and can't wait until the first cue maker incorporates this technology into their cues. I can imagine all the pool "geniuses" around the world standing around trying to "dial in" a shot from a previous game three weeks prior and "calibrate" before they shoot, all the while Earl is on the next table dressed up like a Road Warrior running 100 racks in a row.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...fael-nadal-an-advantage-on-court-9381416.html
 
HawaiianEye said:
I just read this article and can't wait until the first cue maker incorporates this technology into their cues. I can imagine all the pool "geniuses" around the world standing around trying to "dial in" a shot from a previous game three weeks prior and "calibrate" before they shoot, all the while Earl is on the next table dressed up like a Road Warrior running 100 racks in a row.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...fael-nadal-an-advantage-on-court-9381416.html
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That is not what I got out of the article. Rather it is another feedback mechanism, just a high-tech one. It seems to have nothing to do with "dialing in" a shot.

Accelerometers rock !

Dave
 
DaveK said:
That is not what I got out of the article. Rather it is another feedback mechanism, just a high-tech one. It seems to have nothing to do with "dialing in" a shot.

Accelerometers rock !

Dave
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You have to read between the lines (my lines, not theirs).

I meant "mentally".

They will be trying to recall all the information and process it in their mind in order to execute the perfect shot. This will take TIME for most of them and they will be standing around the table scratching their asses with one hand and their heads with the other. Then when they think they got it "dialed in", they will start their PSR. That will take additional time as well, with the precision chalking of Kamui chalk and then the lint picking.

Just do like Earl...aim and shoot the ball...don't overthink it.

Aloha.
 
I have a kreyos watch coming (like a year over due. Don't ask) it has an accelerometer in it and a golf / tennis / stroke analyzer I am hoping i might be able to use it for my practice with a little hacking. Assuming it ever gets here and wasn't just a kickstarter hustle.

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very cool, but if you expect technology like this to help you in pool, you got something else coming. its what pool players call touch, and sry to say, technology will not help in this game. too much finesse is needed. just my opinion, could be wrong.
 
Just like watching game film and keeping stats biometric data will improve performance in any activity. Pool is not magic its marksmanship. It requires eliminating bad habits and replacing them with good ones. "Knowing is half the battle" GI Joe

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trinacria said:
very cool, but if you expect technology like this to help you in pool, you got something else coming. its what pool players call touch, and sry to say, technology will not help in this game. too much finesse is needed. just my opinion, could be wrong.
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I think you are. That same feel applies to any sport, would you say that golf is not feel? If one is able to "see" so to say how a ball was struck or exactly how hard (energy used) a particular stroke is and with pool being a muscle memory thing then yes this can come in very helpful if applied correctly.

Instead of wondering and asking yourself "how hard do i hit that this time" or "how hard did i hit that" wouldn't you like to know so that you can practice that "feel"
 
7forlife said:
I think you are. That same feel applies to any sport, would you say that golf is not feel? If one is able to "see" so to say how a ball was struck or exactly how hard (energy used) a particular stroke is and with pool being a muscle memory thing then yes this can come in very helpful if applied correctly.

Instead of wondering and asking yourself "how hard do i hit that this time" or "how hard did i hit that" wouldn't you like to know so that you can practice that "feel"
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I guess you could spend time hitting the ball, checking the feedback and then trying to replicate the number it showed and the exact stroke used and keep checking the information until it says you did it the same. Or you can step up to the table, keep hitting the shot to get the results you are looking for consistently and skip all of the non-playing steps.

Maybe it'll also say how much you pivot each shot or how much TOI you use. Heck, later models may even come with their own commercials for certain systems.
 
7forlife said:
I think you are. That same feel applies to any sport, would you say that golf is not feel? If one is able to "see" so to say how a ball was struck or exactly how hard (energy used) a particular stroke is and with pool being a muscle memory thing then yes this can come in very helpful if applied correctly.

Instead of wondering and asking yourself "how hard do i hit that this time" or "how hard did i hit that" wouldn't you like to know so that you can practice that "feel"
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Isn't this just like TOI at the most basic level?

If you hit all the balls "the same" it makes things a bit easier in my opinion.
 
HawaiianEye said:
You have to read between the lines (my lines, not theirs).

I meant "mentally".

They will be trying to recall all the information and process it in their mind in order to execute the perfect shot. This will take TIME for most of them and they will be standing around the table scratching their asses with one hand and their heads with the other. Then when they think they got it "dialed in", they will start their PSR. That will take additional time as well, with the precision chalking of Kamui chalk and then the lint picking.

Just do like Earl...aim and shoot the ball...don't overthink it.

Aloha.
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First of all, this technology is already there in golf. They can have detailed analysis of your swing and how to improve it. Same goes for basketball, they have basketballs with built in technology to improve your stroke.

Problem is, it's soooooooo expensive to create this type of technology that I doubt it will ever be around pool. It's not worth developing for a bunch of people that won't buy it anyway. In golf, for example, they have golf schools that improve your game and this type of stuff is a reason they pay big bucks to improve.

I will say this though... Earl, Shane, whoever... they could and would learn A TONNN about their games and even be able to improve their games, particularly their break, if this type of technology were around.
 
Banks said:
I guess you could spend time hitting the ball, checking the feedback and then trying to replicate the number it showed and the exact stroke used and keep checking the information until it says you did it the same. Or you can step up to the table, keep hitting the shot to get the results you are looking for consistently and skip all of the non-playing steps.
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The "number" is a "result" .... feedback to help understand what you just did ... it's all good if used properly. Unfortunately it has been my experience that most egos do not accept objective feedback very gracefully. We all remember our best but do not understand our averages and definately forget the worst.

Dave <-- worked in a golf store and was told many times "I can hit the ball 300 yards" ... with a measured 83mph swing :thud:
 
And for rafa, it has the added benefit of allowing him to claim statistical data analysis and it's resulting strategic/ training changes are what makes him great...

When it was really dr. Michele Ferrari...who has lbeen associated with an astonishing #of sports dopers.
 
Here's a high tech training device specifically for pool. Gives you instant audio feedback while you're stroking to let you know when your stroke goes off-line. Shots are recorded and instantly available to view in 3-d to show you the orientation of your cue at any point during your stroke. Here's the link.. http://cue-md.com/
 
I think this type of technology could be helpful in pool. I think there would be great value in bank pool is you have an incredibly consistent cue speed for your go to stroke. I think this is one thing that makes John Brumback such an incredible banker.

I think it could also help less advanced players by training them to stroke with less speed. They could be instructed to hit certain shots at a specific speed, this type of device could give them instant feedback when they exceeded that speed. I would think this would help train them to that aspect rather quickly. People listed "hits too hard" as one of 3 most common bad habits of lower level players in a recent thread here at AZ.

Players may play the game with feel but that feel has to be developed over time based upon some kind of feedback. That may be trial and error or it could also be drills. An example would be speed drills of hitting the CB so many diamonds and then associating that distance with a number.
 
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