Dress Codes at BCA-National 2014

cleary said:
My point is, "dockers", "hawaiian shirt", "faux leather shoes" is not a professional. You can set a dress code but that doesnt mean people will look good, clean or "professional" yet still be totally within the rules and look like a total slob.
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You're right. It's not professional but it's a start.

In every walk of life, for better or worse, there are standards. Doesn't matter if you're headed to the hottest club in town, a wedding, a funeral, corporate work or blue collar, there is inevitably an expectation of what is appropriate.

Shorts and t-shirt? I guess that's appropriate for a bar. Trousers, a collared shirt, and real shoes... maybe gets you close to to someone who is semi-serious about the sport.

The line between couth and uncouth, class and lack of class, style and no style is generally not hard to discern.

Lou Figueroa
 
cleary said:
My point is, "dockers", "hawaiian shirt", "faux leather shoes" is not a professional. You can set a dress code but that doesnt mean people will look good, clean or "professional" yet still be totally within the rules and look like a total slob.
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My point is what it described is a lot more profession that flip flop, a baseball hay on backwards, some shirt with a beer logo, and ripped jeans.

I understand pool players are free spirits, like bikers, or hippies who want to be free.

I also understand what corporate sponsors are looking for when giving sponsorship, aka money. First is a return on the investment. Second is image of the people in the sport.

IMHO Pool, many Pool players are in some way their own wort enemies.

Her locally in the Valley of the Sun, if you got out to most small pool tournaments you will encounter many people who look like an hour before tournament time, they were on a corner with a piece of cardboard saying they were in need of help, a meal, or job.
 
Now I wonder if the BCAPL had a STRICT LOOK CLEAN & NEAT DRESS CODE with the reward being 4 or 5 major corporate sponsors kicking in $250.000.00 READ ADD MONEY. Would people be willing to dress, per dress code, for a shot at some real dough?
 
But I have ugly, bony, white legs with varicose veins. I am ashamed of them, but at least I don't wear black socks and dress shoes when wearing shorts
My legs would cause most of the ladies to throw up.
Is that fair to the ladies?
 
GoldenFlash said:
But I have ugly, bony, white legs with varicose veins. I am ashamed of them, but at least I don't wear black socks and dress shoes when wearing shorts
My legs would cause most of the ladies to throw up.
Is that fair to the ladies?
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Them boney, white legs with veins popping out are a great "sharking" tool.
Use'em to your advantage. Passing horrible gas at the table works well too.
 
Str8PoolPlayer said:
Passing horrible gas at the table works well too.
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Str8,

You had to mention that didn't you. We have a guy in Rochester who could execute his opponent with one carefully timed evacuation! His cell phone also has a habit of going off ONLY while you are shooting. Thankfully both the national and our regional BCAPL leagues have banned cell phone use during a match.

Is there a LaFerrari in your future?

Lyn
 
Dress code are the rule of thumb in lots of places, like job sites, restaurants, bar. So if you do not like the dress code, work some where else, or go spend your money some where else.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Dress code are the rule of thumb in lots of places, like job sites, restaurants, bar. So if you do not like the dress code, work some where else, or go spend your money some where else.
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Bruce,

We're talking about a group of people going to Las Vegas for FUN. A few of us treat it like a business. It isn't to the greatest majority of players. It is to the BCAPL, VNEA, ACS, APA, TAP and the host Casinos. Dressing the players up is not going to attract major sponsors. Having those players buy products provided by or produced by those potential sponsors will! Which comes first?

Lyn
 
cardiac kid said:
Bruce,

We're talking about a group of people going to Las Vegas for FUN. A few of us treat it like a business. It isn't to the greatest majority of players. It is to the BCAPL, VNEA, ACS, APA, TAP and the host Casinos. Dressing the players up is not going to attract major sponsors. Having those players buy products provided by or produced by those potential sponsors will! Which comes first?

Lyn
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I understand your point, but like I said many place have dress coded. If I know I can not wear jeans to some restaurants, or wedding I am invited to go to. I have two choices.

Dress per code.

Or stay away,and do not make a fool of myself like a person I know who would tell the people charge with the dress code enforcement. Sir my jeans cost x, and are made by some famous designer. But they are still blue jeans.

The last wedding invite I got was to some fancy county club, where they do not allow blue jeans. I did not go.

I have a fifty year high school reunion coming up, it will be at some fancy county club. Very strict dress code. I may drive over for the class picnic in the part to see old class mates.

I have never had the feeling, or confidence I could place in the cash at any armature Pool Event in Las Vegas. So I never bother to enter, and I only saw a negative return on any money spent going.

But I understand for many who go, they see it as fun, and a vacation. That is good if that is the way they perceive the reason to go play, know they will never cash in on the pot.
 
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CocoboloCowboy said:
I have never had the feeling, or confidence I could place in the cash at any armature Pool Event in Las Vegas. So I never bother to enter, and I only saw a negative return on any money spent going.

But I understand for many who go, they see it as fun, and a vacation. That is good if that is the way they perceive the reason to go play, know they will never cash in on the pot.
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Have you considered the new Leisure Division of the BCAPL. Perhaps the Standard Division of either the VNEA or ACS? Sounds like the perfect place for you to play and feel comfortable. When they have the BCAPL Arizona championships near Phoenix give it a try. You might surprize yourself!!!

Not all of us on AZ are world beaters. Hard to believe with some of the posts from our membership. I play pretty sporty. Done very well in Vegas and elsewhere. Don't consider myself, nor have any other posters, a world beater. Have to admit, a few years ago, one of our members put me on the list of Pro's playing BCAPL Amateur events :lmao: . I'm just a guy who LOVES the game of pool and loves the challenges the Vegas events bring. See my signature..

Incidentally, my 50th reunion was two years ago. You're just a kid ;) !

Lyn
 
The Renfro said:
Hmmm well this is not it for sure LOL

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That's how my 13 year old dresses or what I wear to the gym....

But left to themselves a bunch of players would show up dressed just like that for tournaments... Unless you are a pool boy and not a pool player that is definitely not the professional look we need for the sport....
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I'm not a professional. I'm pictured here at a pool room playing pool on my day off. My tuxedo was at the dry cleaners...
 
The Renfro said:
Slacks, Dress Shoes, Collared athletic shirt with proper sized patches... IF you are unsponsored the tournaments could provide event patches so you could wear those instead to show what fields of battle you competed on.....

I actually prefer dress shirts and vest but a talk with Thorsten has me leaning very slightly away from that to the dress code posted above... The elite players are athletes and there is nothing athletic looking about the dress shirt and vest so I see his point......

The old advice of dressing for the job you wish you had will always apply... Now we just have to decide how professional players should dress.. especially since "Image is everything" and pool could use a bump up in this country by a bunch of notches on the image front....

Chris
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It's a good thing Tiger plays golf and not pool. He would never be able to play in an event like the world 14.1 with this trashy outfit. No vest... hat and sneakers! What a slob.

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CocoboloCowboy said:
I understand your point, but like I said many place have dress coded. If I know I can not wear jeans to some restaurants, or wedding I am invited to go to. I have two choices.

Dress per code.

Or stay away,and do not make a fool of myself like a person I know who would tell the people charge with the dress code enforcement. Sir my jeans cost x, and are made by some famous designer. But they are still blue jeans.

The last wedding invite I got was to some fancy county club, where they do not allow blue jeans. I did not go.

I have a fifty year high school reunion coming up, it will be at some fancy county club. Very strict dress code. I may drive over for the class picnic in the part to see old class mates.

I have never had the feeling, or confidence I could place in the cash at any armature Pool Event in Las Vegas. So I never bother to enter, and I only saw a negative return on any money spent going.

But I understand for many who go, they see it as fun, and a vacation. That is good if that is the way they perceive the reason to go play, know they will never cash in on the pot.
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COCO,

Why post in a thread if you are not going to participate? All or most of your posts are to complain about tournaments, rules or other aspects of pool. Why don't you try to post something positive for a change?

Back to topic, I've been going to the BCAPL for over 10 years now. Blue jeans are probably the most common pants worn, along with a polo style shirt. Tennis shoes of all sorts are worn. It is not a very difficult dress code to uphold. Bascially, don't show up in clothes that are full of holes or obsene pics/language.

See you guys next month :)
 
cardiac kid said:
Bruce,

We're talking about a group of people going to Las Vegas for FUN. A few of us treat it like a business. It isn't to the greatest majority of players. It is to the BCAPL, VNEA, ACS, APA, TAP and the host Casinos. Dressing the players up is not going to attract major sponsors. Having those players buy products provided by or produced by those potential sponsors will! Which comes first?

Lyn
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This is exactly right.

The majority of pool players do not know how to dress up even when they try... and leather shoes for pool are the absolute worst idea next to wearing a vest. Seriously nothing is crazier than wearing a vest to play pool. Why on earth would you be dressed in formal wear to play something widely considered a sport?

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Now lets look at other sports with similarities to pool.

Professional ping pong. Shorts and sneakers... Do they look professional?
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Golf. Sneakers and hat. Does he look professional?
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Poker. Who knows gonna guess he's not wearing slacks and dress shoes under that table. No way this game gets any sponsors if they dress like that...
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darts. About on par with pool. Must be the biggest sport on earth.
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Cleary -

You forgot the greatest professional attire of them all.

Beach Volleyball

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-Watchez is the teacher
 
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