This is about Shane

JB Cases said:
If pool is a sport then why shouldn't endurance be part of it?

The WC is a tournament that carries pressure because of the prestige. But for professional play in 9 ball it's a SHORT race. No one complained when it was a race to 17 under matchroom for the title. That was a long enough race to even out the rolls.

But the WPA for whatever reason likes to jack around with the format and prove yet again that pool players will take whatever they want to do to them.

Winning the WC is an accomplishment no matter what. That's clear. Winning any major event is a big deal.

But to claim that Shane is somehow "weaker" because he hasn't YET won one is just silly which is the premise I get from the OP and many others. Shane has all the skill needed and maybe someday he will get the rolls needed to hoist the trophy.

I don't get it though why people try and denigrate Shane when he stands there and says NO ONE on Earth is barred from playing him in the TAR race to 100 format.

I mean if he is supposedly weaker in short races against the world's elite then he should get flat out wiped off the table in longer races.

If I was John Mars I'd put out a challenge like this:

Immediately following the World Championships the world champion is invited to double his money by playing a race to 100 for the whole amount against Shane. Should be easy money.

But ALL the pros on earth know that playing Shane is tough action. ALL OF THEM.

ALL of them can beat him in any given race to 11. VERY VERY VERY few of them have any chance to beat Shane going to 100.

And that's what it's about. All pros will tell you that it takes ROLLS to win any major tournament. You can play perfect but you also need to get some good rolls as well.
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It is clear you have little understanding of how to play pool in terms of shot delivery, laughably so. It is now becoming abundantly clear you do not understand the mental game, either.

Just like your pal Jimmy White, SVB is mentally suspect. Your breakathon alternatives to championship play eliminates this from the equation but the reason he is not a WC is patiently obvious.

His break is stronger than his head. And the top players know it.
 
SakuJack said:
The fact is that Shane hasn't performed on the world stage like he has in American tournaments. There are reasons for that besides "rolls" and "variance", no matter how much some people here would like to ignore them.
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I've seen a lot of people say Chang got lucky against Shane. That when he hit the jump shot in the final rack, got a double kiss, and then got safe he was lucky to do so.

What everyone seems to ignore is that Chang should have never come to the table that game, but Shane dogged a very simple (to a pro player) out.

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BeiberLvr said:
I've seen a lot of people say Chang got lucky against Shane. That when he hit the jump shot in the final rack, got a double kiss, and then got safe he was lucky to do so.

What everyone seems to ignore is that Chang should have never come to the table that game, but Shane dogged a very simple (to a pro player) out.

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IIRC Chang was 10-4 up in that match. What happened next is irrelevant and you can't call luck. That was a pasting, whatever the final result.
 
TheThaiger said:
It is clear you have little understanding of how to play pool in terms of shot delivery, laughably so. It is now becoming abundantly clear you do not understand the mental game, either.

Just like your pal Jimmy White, SVB is mentally suspect. Your breakathon alternatives to championship play eliminates this from the equation but the reason he is not a WC is patiently obvious.

His break is stronger than his head. And the top players know it.
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Because you know top players?

Which is why all the top players are eager to challenge him and his millionaire backer?

Oh......sorry I forgot.....no one is beating down Shane's door to try and play him anything but exhibition pool. And even at that there are very few who want to try.

Jimmy White reached the finals many times at the World's. The only mental suspects are trolls who can't run three balls and aren't fit to carry his cue.
 
JB Cases said:
Because you know top players?

Which is why all the top players are eager to challenge him and his millionaire backer?

Oh......sorry I forgot.....no one is beating down Shane's door to try and play him anything but exhibition pool. And even at that there are very few who want to try.

Jimmy White reached the finals many times at the World's. The only mental suspects are trolls who can't run three balls and aren't fit to carry his cue.
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Exhibition pool? Do you mean like breaking contests to 100, played only in America, and going on for days on end? That type of exhibition? :rolleyes:

The concept of tournament play appears completely alien to many Americans. Baffling.

The differences between top players is wafer thin. Shane gains on the break but loses on the mental side of things. Only the truly elite have no obvious weaknesses, and these are the world champions and all time greats.
 
TheThaiger said:
It is clear you have little understanding of how to play pool in terms of shot delivery, laughably so. It is now becoming abundantly clear you do not understand the mental game, either.

Just like your pal Jimmy White, SVB is mentally suspect. Your breakathon alternatives to championship play eliminates this from the equation but the reason he is not a WC is patiently obvious.

His break is stronger than his head. And the top players know it.
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Congratulations, you win the prize for most idiotic poster of the year. The only reason Shane hasn't won a so called world title is because of simple variance in short race tourneys. Heard of it?
 
TheThaiger said:
Exhibition pool? Do you mean like breaking contests to 100, played only in America, and going on for days on end? That type of exhibition? :rolleyes:

The concept of tournament play appears completely alien to many Americans. Baffling.

The differences between top players is wafer thin. Shane gains on the break but loses on the mental side of things. Only the truly elite have no obvious weaknesses, and these are the world champions and all time greats.
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They don't have to play a race to 100 since all of you special Ed posters want to make it an endurance issue. They could play a race to 25 each day, best of 7 races, and nobody in the world would get there. So shut the f$&& up, go back to putting those wooden blocks in the correct holes and stop tackling comprehension issues that are above your IQ.
 
CSykes24 said:
Just want to point out that flying from somewhere like SD to Qatar is like 45,000 times further and longer than flying from ANYWHERE in Europe to Qatar. Europe to Qatar is like flying from NYC to Miami, at WORST.
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NYC to Miami is 1,277 miles.

Denmark to Qatar is 3,938 miles (similar from Shanghai to Qatar as it happens).

As for the whole, who is best debate, it's quite simple really. Until there is a commonly accepted definition of what defines "best" in pool, everyone who proclaims anyone to be the best or has an opinion of who that might be, is wrong.

OK, that's the internet fixed, what's next?
 
corvette1340 said:
Congratulations, you win the prize for most idiotic poster of the year. The only reason Shane hasn't won a so called world title is because of simple variance in short race tourneys. Heard of it?
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Vette

Tim has never lost that title since he first joined.
 
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JB Cases said:
Jimmy White reached the finals many times at the World's. The only mental suspects are trolls who can't run three balls and aren't fit to carry his cue.
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You don't think Jimmy White was mentally suspect compared to other top players?

corvette1340 said:
The only reason Shane hasn't won a so called world title is because of simple variance in short race tourneys. Heard of it?
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This is laughable.

Regarding any "Brit pile on", I actually really like SVB. I think he's one of the best players in the world. But he has genuine weaknesses in his game that have caused him to fall short in true world events (especially overseas) so far. Refusing to acknowledge them won't make that problem go away any quicker.
 
corvette1340 said:
Congratulations, you win the prize for most idiotic poster of the year. The only reason Shane hasn't won a so called world title is because of simple variance in short race tourneys. Heard of it?
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By that reasoning, the only reason ANYONE hasn't won a "so called" world title is because of simple variance in short race tourneys. Bloody maths, eh?

Repeating something over and over may sound good in your head, but often reads poorly on the screen, vet. Just something for you to consider.
 
sfleinen said:
Posted in another thread:
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Ignored in another thread. Restraint called for, restraint got.

Ignored here, too, but nice of you to think of me. I've often noted, with irony, how quickly you start posting again once I do.

Secretarial Sean didn't end well, so how about Stalker Sean? Is that one less likely to upset you? Will this one 'all work out for the best'?
 
TheThaiger said:
Ignored in another thread. Restraint called for, restraint got.

Ignored here, too, but nice of you to think of me. I've often noted, with irony, how quickly you start posting again once I do.

Secretarial Sean didn't end well, so how about Stalker Sean? Is that one less likely to upset you? Will this one 'all work out for the best'?
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:thumbup2: As McCauley Culkins would say in the movie Home Alone, "Yyyesssssssssssss!" with a fist-pump.

-Sean <-- reverse trolling with style
 
corvette1340 said:
Congratulations, you win the prize for most idiotic poster of the year. The only reason Shane hasn't won a so called world title is because of simple variance in short race tourneys. Heard of it?
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And you just trumped his ,,, the reason Shane has not won is because he can't fade the pressure of the format and the talent level where each mistake is magnified x 10
Yes put flip flops on Shane and all day to play himself in stroke and just when most players get bored Shane can catch a world class gear ,,,but that's not what tournaments are structured to do ,,


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one stroke said:
And you just trumped his ,,, the reason Shane has not won is because he can't fade the pressure of the format and the talent level where each mistake is magnified x 10
Yes put flip flops on Shane and all day to play himself in stroke and just when most players get bored Shane can catch a world class gear ,,,but that's not what tournaments are structured to do ,,


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No, tourneys like this are structured for maximum viewing pleasure and not to decide who is the better player. The majority of the players want longer races with winner breaks. It's already been pointed out that a lot were in agreement of this directly after the tourney. It's a crapshoot the way the format is now. To try and explain it any differently shows your lack of comprehension. I don't begrudge you guys for it because I now understand it's simply above your intelligence level.
 
Are we going to blame variance for the simple out Shane dogged in the final game against Chang?
 
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