This is about Shane

The only reason people are coming up with "excuses" is that every time he doesn't dominate overseas, (even though he always seems to still do well), people (almost always from overseas or at least foreigners typically), jump up and say "See, he's not that good".

It just seems the only reason these conversations keep popping up is that people are ass hurt that an American is the best player and keep looking for excuses to not have to admit it.

Jaden

I agree with you 100% Jaden. I spoke on this very subject the other day on Joe Rogan's podcast show, which was the subject of haters. No matter what the senseless haters say about Shane, he's still gonna be "Shane Van Boening" the bad ass pool player from the US, so I really don't think he cares what these guys say :-). I know if I ever play Shane I want the race to be to 1 and I want to win the flip. The European players are awesome and Shane is awesome, but to say they are going to beat SVB heads up is just not reality...

Let's face it, to win a tournament in a short race format the stars have to line up for you. When they line up for Shane in the world tournament, he will start winning. He wins the US Open with players from all over the world but it's a slightly longer race which usually favors the better player but doesn't always have too..Years ago when Dennis Rodman said if Larry Bird was black he would just be another good player. They asked Larry Bird what he thought about Rodman's comment and he said I don't care what he says. The reason for that is he's still gonna be Larry Bird one the the best players in the history of the sport. It doesn't matter what anyone says about Shane, he dominates!!
 
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Forget all the tourney wins and losses and all those things. Who are ANY of you that say Shane is not the best in world willing to put in the box against him in any format other then one race to 11.

NO ONE is willing to do that. And that speaks volumes as to just how good he really is. Can he be beaten by someone, sure, maybe. But who are you willing to say you will put your money up against Shane's to win. NO ONE. That my friends is a fact.

Dennis Orcullo at Hard Times would get backed.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but Shane said he wouldn't gamble with Scott Frost playing one pocket unless Scott gave him weight. This couldn't have been more than a couple months ago.

IMHO, He was trying to stroke Scott into giving him weight, massaging his ego that he was surely the best in the world at 1P. On neutral ground I'll take Shane
 
"I strongly believe that it is those who die hard Shane fan who have spawned threads like this". It is by you putting shane up on such a pedestal that it appears he should NEVER lose.

I have read every single post here and can not recall any one ever judging shane's character or ability, it is just the fact that he has not 'yet" won a world title (outside of the US). I am sure that we are all looking forward to him doing so and even becoming the first repeat winner or whatever. But, it is when you guys keep coming up with excuses (or what seems to be excuses) as to why he lost and then jumping to the statement about "well let's see how they do against him in a race to 100 playing 10 ball for the cheese) rather than wow X played real strong and took down shane.

It's because of you that some people wonder why this god a mist gods can't seem to run through an overseas tourney like he does in the States or like these people make him up to be. Sure it's great that he's the top money player/earner, but how many of you can say that you're pleased about going to Reno or playing in you local tourney and cashing but never taking it down?

Other have done it with out ever having the distinction of being called "The Worlds Best Player" so why not Shane.

YET!

Sure it's great that he's the top money player/earner, but how many of you can say that you're pleased about going to Reno or playing in you local tourney and cashing but never taking it down?


Maybe the stars haven't lined up for this particular tournament you speak of but I think he will eventually win the world tournament. Remember Shane Van Boening is not or hasn't made any excuses about not winning the world tournament. I have only heard him speak highly of the asian players and said it's very tough. The people speaking about him aren't his managers or agents. I believe he will win a world tournament eventually, he is still fairly young and has a ton of ability
 
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IMHO, He was trying to stroke Scott into giving him weight, massaging his ego that he was surely the best in the world at 1P. On neutral ground I'll take Shane

Scott gave him, I believe, 9-7 before and they broke even after 20 hours or something. This latest time Shane was asking for 9-8 so I don't think stroking his ego had anything to do with it. I am sure if they did play even on a neutral table there would be lots of people looking to bet on either side.

Who knows if Scott will ever be the same again but I pray he gets his wrist fixed without incident and gets back to 100%.
 
Shane is the best in the world? Then that must mean Bustamante is the best in the Milky Way galaxy since he rarely beats him for the cash.
 
Scott gave him, I believe, 9-7 before and they broke even after 20 hours or something. This latest time Shane was asking for 9-8 so I don't think stroking his ego had anything to do with it. I am sure if they did play even on a neutral table there would be lots of people looking to bet on either side.

Who knows if Scott will ever be the same again but I pray he gets his wrist fixed without incident and gets back to 100%.

i cant believe he gave him that game in the last 4 years. Anyway ill still take Shane like i said.

Im probably dead wrong but i dont think a broken wrist on the bridge hand will have any effect long term
 
LOL
http://www.wpa-pool.com/web/world_champions
Alcano won W8B also. Wu won W8B in same year he won W9B. He was finalist in first W10B.
No offence but maybe that is why you are selling cue cases and not out there arguing cases as a lawyer.
You bait and switch, don't get the facts right or conveniently leave out certain facts.
Stay classy not crassy please.:D

maybe the best response I have ever read on here.

sell cue cases and leave the facts to the rest of the knowledgable pool community.

FYI maybe alcano not done much becaus ehe is in big trouble in Phillipines and likely cannot travel
 
5th in the world championships. Guy must be a bum...

Well said...it amazes me how people like the OP can be haters. Shane has always showed so much class, poise, and talent. He is world class and can win overseas, but that doesn't mean it is easy or that he will. World championships are special events just like super bowls...even the best sometimes don't get the rings.
 
(got tired of the BS with the titles)

Anyway, I see that the hopefuls are still hopeful. Well good, and you should be but "I" don't see Shane winning an oversea title EVER. Yea yea yea it could happen and good for him if it does but I don't think it will.
And to those of you who say "oh he'll get it next year, cause he's going to work hard, and blah blah blah" well guess what, so are all those other players.

There Europeans have done the most damage on that stage and will continue to do so, shane "as great as he is" is an american bully and for the most part in my book and for the most part just capable of beating up on the american boys.

"that's my take on it..... do (you know the rest)

Aye Hole Post from an Aye Hole.
 
Forget all the tourney wins and losses and all those things. Who are ANY of you that say Shane is not the best in world willing to put in the box against him in any format other then one race to 11.

NO ONE is willing to do that. And that speaks volumes as to just how good he really is. Can he be beaten by someone, sure, maybe. But who are you willing to say you will put your money up against Shane's to win. NO ONE. That my friends is a fact.

It has been said by many on here that Shane could likely get played in china for whatever he wants.

Planes work both ways.
 
It has been said by many on here that Shane could likely get played in china for whatever he wants.

Planes work both ways.

Not sure who said that but Shane has been to China many times and the line to the bathroom is longer than the line of people who want to try Shane in long races for BIG money.

Sure Shane could get played by dozens of Chinese players for relatively small amounts of money but no one I know of is willing to put up $10,000 USD or more for their player to play Shane.

I was present in Shanghai when VERY GOOD players were BEGGING Oscar Dominguez for ridiculous weight for what amounted to $200 a set.
 
maybe the best response I have ever read on here.

sell cue cases and leave the facts to the rest of the knowledgable pool community.

FYI maybe alcano not done much becaus ehe is in big trouble in Phillipines and likely cannot travel

Want to take a quiz and bet on it? I will be more than happy to let anyone here make a test with one hundred questions and bet $500 that I can beat any RANDOM anon with my knowledge of pool past and present.

There are few people on the forum whom I would not bet against. At Large, Terry Ardeno, Jay Helfert, SJM, and several others come to mind....

You? Post the cash :-)

You could be right though, if Ronnie is restricted then he can't do much. But my point is valid and easily proved by listing many more names.
 
Not sure who said that but Shane has been to China many times and the line to the bathroom is longer than the line of people who want to try Shane in long races for BIG money.

Sure Shane could get played by dozens of Chinese players for relatively small amounts of money but no one I know of is willing to put up $10,000 USD or more for their player to play Shane.

I was present in Shanghai when VERY GOOD players were BEGGING Oscar Dominguez for ridiculous weight for what amounted to $200 a set.

John:

I would wholeheartedly agree with this. We culturally-neutered dumb-fvck Americans who have no clue (nor care) what goes on in the rest of the world don't know how Shane is perceived in other countries. But you can bet "the rest of the world" knows what's going on in America, knows who Shane is, knows what kind of damage he does over here, and don't want any part of him for large sums of cash. I don't doubt that at all.

Like I say:
"Americans. Keeping an eye on the world from a room with no windows."

-Sean
 
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