Inquiry: Harvey Martin or knockoff??

[cue fix]

Hello. I am looking for information on one of these two cues or both. I bought these two cues several years ago off the internet based on the photos, as the light colored one looked like it could be a Harvey Martin. The pictures weren't real clear and after I got the cues and seen that the joint ring and butt cap were not ivory I figured it was not a Martin. Since then after doing some more searching I found a Martin that had a plastic butt cap, so my interest was reignited. Both of these cues are built old school with fat butts. Both cues have an H stamped on the underside of the rubber bumper. Any help is appreciated. Who is the person to authenticate Martin cues these days since Schrager has past away?

 

[cue fix]

more photos for identification. The owners of these cues lived in California and were big into pool. I got the cues from their daughter.

 

[cueaddicts]

Not a Martin....

 

[JoeyInCali]

Not a Martin....

The joint screw looks wrong to me.

 

[cue fix]

Bringing this back from the dead since I only had two responses since I posted it. Who else ever used the brass 3/8 X 8 pin other than Harvey Martin?

 

[cueman]

A few things look wrong on the light colored cue for it to be a Martin. But if it is not a Martin someone sure copied a lot of Martin things into it.

 

[cue fix]

Bringing this back for the weekend crowd. Who else used this pin other than Harvey Martin. I came across another thread on here that shows a joint pin and collar just like this one that was also believed to be a Martin. I know the wrap is not the normal Martin wrap, but you never know.

 

[ideologist]

The spur marks under the bumper scream "import"

 

[cue fix]

The spur marks under the bumper scream "import"

Yes, I notice that on the brown cue, but the light colored one is not the same. Usually imports use the 5/16X18 pin. have you seen other imports with the 3/8X8?

 

[ideologist]

No, but the great duplicators in Asia wouldn't stun me if they made one. The pin doesn't look like any on a Martin I have seen, just the same pitch

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[yubber]

martin??

Hi

I have a martin with that joint screw. Other things don't look quite right but ???
Maybe a early Schrager. How does it hit??

Alan

 

[Michael Webb]

Bringing this back from the dead since I only had two responses since I posted it. Who else ever used the brass 3/8 X 8 pin other than Harvey Martin?

3/8x8 yes and brass. But the standard 60 degree pitched screw. That looks like a ball screw.

 

[Chopdoc]

I am thinking no. Near miss but no. For reasons already given.


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[jay helfert]

I would have to agree, a copy and only a fair one at that.

 

[1sttbone]

your harvey's;

Contact Kent Taylor at taylor cue co. Oklahoma City. He Should know.