Earl calls Boyes "victim number one" for World Cup

Right to arrogant?

HelloBaby- said:
Firstly, Earl has every rights to be arrogant ( not disrespectful ). He is the legend.
Secondly, No matter what happens Earl stays like himself - arrogant. Not like Boyes who acted like a smart ass at the begining then shut the fukk up and acted like a loser when he lost which for me is very cheap caracter.
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Oxford Dictionary:

arrogant, adjective

aggressively assertive or presumptuous.

Synonyms: assuming, conceited, egotistical, pompous, haughty, overbearing

arrogance, noun

self-assertion, impertinence, insolence, presumption, nerve, effrontery

I personally don't consider these as all qualities to admire. But let me ask you...how good do you have to be to EARN the "right" to be arrogant?

And just how does sharking, and blaming your poor play on fans, announcers, opponents and even teammates show "character"?
 
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First, I think Earl has some real psychological issues, like chemical imbalance, or possibly something from his growing years. If you have watched/listen to him talk about his childhood, his obsession with pool, how he handled losses as a kid, how his dad reacted to him losing to what was later identified as a short stop/state champ (I can't remember who) at 14 yrs old...I think people may see his actions a little differently. I don't know if Earl takes meds, which may help, but probably affect other things necessary for him to play at his highest level. This could explain his ups and downs in temperament as well as performance. Like a rambunctious kid that is given Ritalin.

Earl also comes from a time when it was not uncommon for players to "play" to the crowd. Unlike many of today's players which kind of act like lifeless robots or drones and almost have the same personalities. And we wonder why so few people can relate to them...as if their unworldly skills doesn't make them appear alien enough.

There is a reason why people are drawn to showmen. Talent and skill makes you look superhuman. But a personality is something people can identify with. And I'm not necessarily saying Earl is a good showman, but he has those talents/traits in addition to his skills and although taste is subjective, I feel showmanship is something the sport is currently lacking and could benefit from.

For people that claim that Earl is arrogant, etc....have you actually met and talked with the man? He's strongly opinionated (which I can certainly identify with) but I mostly see a humble, yet frustrated person that only wants to be the best he can, and have the best for the sport and others who play it. No one is perfect.
 
earl would be a good teammate for shane. he prepares the ball really well and definitely talks a lot - very important in scotch doubles.
 
NitPicker said:
First, I think Earl has some real psychological issues, like chemical imbalance, or possibly something from his growing years. If you have watched/listen to him talk about his childhood, his obsession with pool, how he handled losses as a kid, how his dad reacted to him losing to what was later identified as a short stop/state champ (I can't remember who) at 14 yrs old...I think people may see his actions a little differently. I don't know if Earl takes meds, which may help, but probably affect other things necessary for him to play at his highest level. This could explain his ups and downs in temperament as well as performance. Like a rambunctious kid that is given Ritalin.

Earl also comes from a time when it was not uncommon for players to "play" to the crowd. Unlike many of today's players which kind of act like lifeless robots or drones and almost have the same personalities. And we wonder why so few people can relate to them...as if their unworldly skills doesn't make them appear alien enough.

There is a reason why people are drawn to showmen. Talent and skill makes you look superhuman. But a personality is something people can identify with. And I'm not necessarily saying Earl is a good showman, but he has those talents/traits in addition to his skills and although taste is subjective, I feel showmanship is something the sport is currently lacking and could benefit from.

For people that claim that Earl is arrogant, etc....have you actually met and talked with the man? He's strongly opinionated (which I can certainly identify with) but I mostly see a humble, yet frustrated person that only wants to be the best he can, and have the best for the sport and others who play it. No one is perfect.
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Earl is a cool dude if you get to know him. I'm pretty sure why SVB and others in the sport are still friends with him. Yeah, there are a few in the game that would not piss on him if he were on fire, but then again, probably could be said about many of us as well ;)


and yeah, there is a some kind of emotional or chemical inbalance that he probably is not aware of because it was never officially diagnosed and usually shows itself when under extreme pressure....

But he brings something to pool like nobody else. Will be fun to watch ;)
 
Their play will compliment each other. England is glad to have Earl, they love him the way some here hate him, the ratings just went sky high before the event has even started, no empty seats. I love to watch Earl play. SVB chose a perfect partner. I hope they do great. I think I'll cook up some crow just in case they win.....haters and naysayers please list your home addresses, I'll cover the shipping.
 
Shane is a class act and Earl is and always will be a premier player. Sorry to disagree with you Stu. Earl doesn't have a classy way of going about things but he still has world class firepower. Shane isn't stupid and has picked a partner he feels confident in.
 
Talk is cheap! You have to be able to back it up on the table. I'm with SJM in thinking that Team USA is not one of the favorites. Shane is great and deserves a better partner. Earl will miss balls, particularly long shots. He ain't the same guy who won all those championships years ago. Once he starts to implode, they are going down. Almost any other team is capable of putting them out. What wouldn't surprise me is to see them go out in the first or second round. You can't turn back the clock, as much as you'd like too. I saw Earl at this peak and he was a sight to behold. Like SJM said, he can still bring it on occasion, but those occassions are few and far between anymore.
 
NitPicker said:
First, I think Earl has some real psychological issues, like chemical imbalance, or possibly something from his growing years. If you have watched/listen to him talk about his childhood, his obsession with pool, how he handled losses as a kid, how his dad reacted to him losing to what was later identified as a short stop/state champ (I can't remember who) at 14 yrs old...I think people may see his actions a little differently. I don't know if Earl takes meds, which may help, but probably affect other things necessary for him to play at his highest level. This could explain his ups and downs in temperament as well as performance. Like a rambunctious kid that is given Ritalin.

Earl also comes from a time when it was not uncommon for players to "play" to the crowd. Unlike many of today's players which kind of act like lifeless robots or drones and almost have the same personalities. And we wonder why so few people can relate to them...as if their unworldly skills doesn't make them appear alien enough.

There is a reason why people are drawn to showmen. Talent and skill makes you look superhuman. But a personality is something people can identify with. And I'm not necessarily saying Earl is a good showman, but he has those talents/traits in addition to his skills and although taste is subjective, I feel showmanship is something the sport is currently lacking and could benefit from.

For people that claim that Earl is arrogant, etc....have you actually met and talked with the man? He's strongly opinionated (which I can certainly identify with) but I mostly see a humble, yet frustrated person that only wants to be the best he can, and have the best for the sport and others who play it. No one is perfect.
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This is one of the best posts I have ever read on these forums. This is a perfect account of who Earl Strickland is, and what he is about, in my opinion!!
 
@NitPicker

I agree with you

but to all here i think Earl must have this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder

and that is the reason why he reacts so, i don't know him personaly but i think he must be a good guy with a lot of passion for that game.

And i think why Shane pics him (shane is a calmer player,correct and dont worry if his teammate makes a mistake his zodiac is cancer :-)

but i think the european players or asia are much stronger as team but as a single player shane would be one of the best of the word.

And as NitPicker says almost all players play like robots no emotions i think this is very sad
 
BRussell said:
As much as I think Earl can act like a jerk, I think Boyes is worse.
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While a lot of Earls behavior cannot be excused, I also think Boyes has few issues also. I kind of lost respect for him after he beat Earl at Mosconi 2013. I thought it was very poor sportsmanship the way he acted. Very poor winner. No matter what Earls behavior was, Boyes should have been the bigger man. But the child in him came out.
 
jay helfert said:
Talk is cheap! You have to be able to back it up on the table. I'm with SJM in thinking that Team USA is not one of the favorites. Shane is great and deserves a better partner. Earl will miss balls, particularly long shots. He ain't the same guy who won all those championships years ago. Once he starts to implode, they are going down. Almost any other team is capable of putting them out. What wouldn't surprise me is to see them go out in the first or second round. You can't turn back the clock, as much as you'd like too. I saw Earl at this peak and he was a sight to behold. Like SJM said, he can still bring it on occasion, but those occassions are few and far between anymore.
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I don't think you are considering all the parameters, my friend.

As far as saying that the USA is not a favorite to win, you are correct. It is also correct that no team is a favorite in this event to win, and you know that.

Mighty tough line up.

It's your opinion that Earl will miss shots, and lose his cool ect, but you are showing your gamble, because none of us can see the future.

You say they will go out in the first or second round?

Well I say I got a dime that says USA goes past the first round.

How bout it Jay?
 
JB Cases said:
Shane is a class act and Earl is and always will be a premier player. Sorry to disagree with you Stu. Earl doesn't have a classy way of going about things but he still has world class firepower. Shane isn't stupid and has picked a partner he feels confident in.
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You bring a very informed opinion to any thread in which you participate. You need never apologize for disagreeing.

On this occasion, however, I believe Shane was, to use your word, stupid to pick Strickland.

I'll be quick to admit I was wrong if this team succeeds.
 
sjm said:
You bring a very informed opinion to any thread in which you participate. You need never apologize for disagreeing.

On this occasion, however, I believe Shane was, to use your word, stupid to pick Strickland.

I'll be quick to admit I was wrong if this team succeeds.
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Do you think he should have went with Johnny archer again? What international battle tested American pool player should he have gone with? Morris, Dechaine, Hatch has problems in international play over the last two years...Archer and strickland have been fairly consistent. (From what I've seen, I may be wrong)

I still think earl has had a good year, played lots of pool, and can handle euro pressure. It's a good choice.
 
Cardigan Kid said:
Do you think he should hnave went with Johnny archer again? What international battle tested American pool player should have gone with? Morris, Dechaine, Hatch has problems in international play over the last two years...Archer and strickland have been fairly consistent. (From what I've seen, I may be wrong)

I still think earl has had a good year, played lots of pool, and can handle euro pressure. It's a good choice.
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Damn the long term track record, give me someone who is playing well now! Earl is merely the fourth best player on the Joss tour, winless in 2014, behind Dechaine, Shaw and Sossei. He nearly never wins any event with an elite field, with the 2013 Turning Stone the one exception in recent times.

Dechaine's haters, and I sense you are one of them, find it fitting to label him incapable of playing well on the international stage based on a very small number of matches played overseas, but he beat Earl 25-11 in their challenge match this spring and has dominated him in Joss Tour play.

This summer alone, Dechaine has beaten:

Darren Appleton at the CSI 10-ball
Johnny Archer, Mika Immonen and Dennis Hatch in the World 14.1
Justin Bergman by 9-4 in the Steinway 10-ball event
John Schmidt 9-4 in the Steinway 10-ball event

What significant scalps has Earl collected this year? If you think Earl is playing well in 2014, you are very mistaken.
 
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sjm said:
Damn the long term track record, give me someone who is playing well now! Earl is merely the fourth best player on the Joss tour, winless in 2014, behind Dechaine, Shaw and Sossei. He nearly never wins any event with an elite field, with the 2013 Turning Stone the one exception in recent times.

Dechaine's haters, and I sense you are one of them, find it fitting to label him incapable of playing well on the international stage based on a very small number of matches played overseas, but he beat Earl 25-11 in their challenge match this spring and has dominated him in Joss Tour play.

This summer alone, Dechaine has beaten:

Darren Appleton at the CSI 10-ball
Johnny Archer, Mika Immonen and Dennis Hatch in the World 14.1
Justin Bergman by 9-4 in the Steinway 10-ball event
John Schmidt 9-4 in the Steinway 10-ball event

What significant scalps has Earl collected this year? If you think Earl is playing well in 2014, you are very mistaken.
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You have a good point. Dechaine one on one is a force. Im not a dechaine hater as much as I'm a realist. Earl and Shane have a history of at least one match win in doubles international play (Mosconi cup 2013). I'm not sure Dechaine has ever played doubIles with Shane.

I'm fairly certain shanes decision was based on the scotch doubles format.
 
Cardigan Kid said:
You have a good point. Dechaine one on one is a force. Im not a dechaine hater as much as I'm a realist. Earl and Shane have a history of at least one match win in doubles international play (Mosconi cup 2013). I'm not sure Dechaine has ever played doubIles with Shane.

I'm fairly certain shanes decision was based on the scotch doubles format.
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Worth noting is how well Dechaine and Deuel meshed in the scotch doubles match (I think it was called the CSI OB1 Challenge) during the BCAPL championships to easily beat the team of Bustamante and Reyes. Great communication and great chemistry made Mike and Corey very tough to beat.
 
sjm said:
Worth noting is how well Dechaine and Deuel meshed in the scotch doubles match (I think it was called the CSI OB1 Challenge) during the BCAPL championships to easily beat the team of Bustamante and Reyes. Great communication and great chemistry made Mike and Corey very tough to beat.
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On that point, why doesn't usa ever get a team A and B? But England does? Maybe it's a host country thing.
 
I think Shane's personality will suit this partnership nicely

btw, does anybody know the full roster for this event as i dont see it on the official site???
 
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