How Would You Play This?

alstl said:
or banking 2 fails because you will run into something before you come around for the 3.
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You don't have to bank it cross side and come three around (traffic) especially if it's humid or the balls are dirty....if you gear it, like I said in my prior post, your cue ball will stay near the opposite long rail, try it out.:smile:
If the shot dictates that the cue ball will end up contacting the bottom cushion, then you still have a nice cross side rolling center ball lag bank on the three ball that also becomes a free shot and one can easily get shape back to the four ball.
 
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Old Nine Baller said:
It's your shot at the 2 ball. What is your shot?


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If I'm feeling good and like the table....I'm slow banking the 2-ball in the side....
...with low right ( 4:00 o'clock)....full 3-ball gets me on the 4-ball.

I might not like this table...cloth looks like Mali....
...so then I'm slow banking the 2-ball between the 6/9...whitey should
float to the other long rail.
 
naji said:
To win in 9 ball you have to play the percentage game, if you are up three or 4 games, it will make a big difference what you shoot, OP did not declare, assuming i am down few games, then the shot with high % is the CB safety behind the 5, even if he did not get locked up, he will have a rail shot to deal with!

The bank and the cuts are lower % make than the safety

Another ok safe, play the 2 behind the 5 or other balls, CB two rails behind 3! not 100% sure from the pic, but looks doable (side pocket scratch possibility)!

hell if i am up few games, i will bank the 2, easy shape on the 3..the cut requires soft hit, good table cloth, throw, swerve could effect it-but doable..
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The goal is to win this game the best way possible. The set score does not figure into that and never should. Beginners trying to learn to play should disregard this info about shot choice changing based on set score. The best shot for you is the right shot for you.

I will never give the set score when I post a layout.

ONB
 
Mizerak decided to bank the 2 cross-side and it missed short but went in two rails:). He then ran the table:). He did contemplate playing safe at first.

ONB


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Wrong again, big boi. Hi% safe is never going to be choosing to hide the cb behind a single ball that is probably 3ft away. It would be far better to put both the ob and the cb on the L) pictured rail and skip trying to 'hide behind the 3'. That is also effectively impossible.

naji said:
To win in 9 ball you have to play the percentage game, if you are up three or 4 games, it will make a big difference what you shoot, OP did not declare, assuming i am down few games, then the shot with high % is the CB safety behind the 5, even if he did not get locked up, he will have a rail shot to deal with!

The bank and the cuts are lower % make than the safety

Another ok safe, play the 2 behind the 5 or other balls, CB two rails behind 3! not 100% sure from the pic, but looks doable (side pocket scratch possibility)!

hell if i am up few games, i will bank the 2, easy shape on the 3..the cut requires soft hit, good table cloth, throw, swerve could effect it-but doable..
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Island Drive said:
You don't have to bank it cross side and come three around (traffic) especially if it's humid or the balls are dirty....if you gear it, like I said in my prior post, your cue ball will stay near the opposite long rail, try it out.:smile:
If the shot dictates that the cue ball will end up contacting the bottom cushion, then you still have a nice cross side rolling center ball lag bank on the three ball that also becomes a free shot and one can easily get shape back to the four ball.
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I agree with what you're saying about the 2 ball. The spin will send it across table without hitting the cue ball very hard. There was a thread a while back discussing this stroke and the purists said it's not possible. :eek: :grin-square:

Best,
Mike
 
Cut the 2 to lower right corner placing the cb above the 3, then go for a 3/9 combo. Game over!!

Now I know some might think this is a horrible choice of shots, but I belive it is a very makeable shot.
 
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the bank is the shot

platypus said:
Cut the 2 to lower right corner placing the cb above the 3, then go for a 3/9 combo. Game over!!

Now I know some might think this is a horrible choice of shots, but I belive it is a very makeable shot.
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There's no real way to control the cue ball by trying to cut the two down in the corner... plus it's a very thin contact which means you risk altering the position of the 3 on the table and scratching off of it, or directly in the side...

The bank allows for a more controlled cue ball path with inherent position after pocketing the two... and as Mizerak showcased the built in 2 way double bank in the other side... Either way Miz got rewarded for picking the right shot... as he so often did during his playing career.
 
Old Nine Baller said:
Mizerak decided to bank the 2 cross-side and it missed short but went in two rails:). He then ran the table:). He did contemplate playing safe at first.

ONB


The tables that were made before Diamonds had rails that allowed for the bank off the first rail to widen and VERY often go two rails, and the pros Always took this into consideration. Seeing the Miz Jack up and hold the cue ball from contacting either rail tells me HE created the bank angle with gearing spin Only, knowing if it came up short it would then go long off the second rail. With the design of the newer Diamond tables rails, this short angled cross side two rail bank is near IMPOSSIBLE....unless the table was super fast and the object ball was rolling naturally before contacting the second long rail.
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Island Drive said:
if you make it, you'll most likely lay hooked ''on'' the 9 ball if you cut/roll the two ball in, as it naturally will come three rails and hook you behind the 9 or the 8 ball....plus whitey is going into ALLOT of traffic....there are too many balls at the foot of the table that will interfere with the cue ball, waaay too risky.
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I have the path moving more towards the 5 than the 9, but you could be right. Bottom line, I'm firing at something. I think the safety is too risky and gives your opponent a chance to make something happen.
 
2 choices...

i would like to think that in the moment i would play safe...cue 3 rails up table. and 2 in the vicinity of the 5/6...but if i was in a sell out mood i would cut the two in the side and pray for a roll on the 3...playing safe the opposite way might work as well
 
Island Drive said:
You don't have to bank it cross side and come three around (traffic) especially if it's humid or the balls are dirty....if you gear it, like I said in my prior post, your cue ball will stay near the opposite long rail, try it out.:smile:
If the shot dictates that the cue ball will end up contacting the bottom cushion, then you still have a nice cross side rolling center ball lag bank on the three ball that also becomes a free shot and one can easily get shape back to the four ball.
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I can't envision the 2 way shot you are suggesting with running English it looks to me like you will come around into traffic with the cue ball. If you bank it long with perfect speed and lay the 2 on the rail you probably have a decent safe but I don't see the 2 way shot being an option.
 
alstl said:
I can't envision the 2 way shot you are suggesting with running English it looks to me like you will come around into traffic with the cue ball. If you bank it long with perfect speed and lay the 2 on the rail you probably have a decent safe but I don't see the 2 way shot being an option.
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Why not???
 
I like naji ' assessment. View of table is the addition to this equation. Alot of players are on point in the discussion. Great topic guys etc...
 
platypus said:
Cut the 2 to lower right corner placing the cb above the 3, then go for a 3/9 combo. Game over!!

Now I know some might think this is a horrible choice of shots, but I belive it is a very makeable shot.
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I guess you can't believe everything you read.......:sorry:
Plat's gonna try to cut this 'white flag' in.....
...and under his AZ name it says "SirBanksalot".....
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bank the 2-ball very hard into the 9-ball and see what happens!



(banger's input) :grin-square:
 
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