Tip preference

Ki-Techs


I'd take a triangle over any of the other layered tips.

Kamuis for me are garbage. I hate them.
 
Yeah why go on a forum and ask for opinions on tips. Just buy one of each and change them out every time you play until you find the one you like. Maybe because this is a forum and you might get a general consensus about tips that will help you in your selection. Which ones to avoid and why. Which ones are preferred and why.
 
I'm using a jacoby hybrid shaft on my jacoby cue with tiger sniper tips.The sniper tip is a soft tip which gives a good feel for the cue ball action.

that is for nine ball or eight ball. I use a kamuai medium black tip for bank pool. I've been playing pool since 1956 when I was twelve years old.
 
+1 on the dawg duds..."pooldawg8" is the guy who makes them,about $3 each.I've tried most all tips,I have found nothing to compare.I even break with them,no mushrooming at all,just mild scuff every so often !!!

Ditto what he said.....
 
How do you test your tips? Tips are made from Collagen. Layered tips have glue holding thin pieces together. Do you test compression or moisture content ? Do you use your thumb nail to do an indentation test ?
 
Tires on a car would be a fairly good analogy... Nothing like having a high performance car and not being able to get traction because of low performance tires... Pool can be played with anything from a piece of belt leather to a 100 durometer phenolic tip but likely those extremes will not be to the benfit of anyone's game...

Find a tip that makes the cueball do what you imagine in your mind and that doesn't double cross you at times...

Our Ki-Techs come currently in Soft, Medium, Medium Hard and Hard and we are working on a Super Soft and Medium Soft so that there will be something in our line that will do just that for most players...

Each of our "hardness" grades are actually engineered around their COR reading.... Our Soft, Medium and Medium Hard are all within a few points in "hardness" on a durometer but there is a world of difference between how each plays.....

Chris

Hi Chris,

Which of your tips would you say plays the most like the soft Elk Masters & how high on the durometer scale are your hard tips?

Thanks in advance,
Rick
 
I'm using a jacoby hybrid shaft on my jacoby cue with tiger sniper tips.The sniper tip is a soft tip which gives a good feel for the cue ball action.

that is for nine ball or eight ball. I use a kamuai medium black tip for bank pool. I've been playing pool since 1956 when I was twelve years old.

That's 58 years of playing. I'd say your recommendations are well founded in experience.

What were you using for 8 & 9 ball before the Sniper tip?

Thanks in advance,
Rick
 
Naji,

You had better cherish those old Lepros & change them less often. The repair guy at my local hall says they are now extremely hit & miss. They are very inconsistent & often takes 3 to 5 tips to get what the customer was used to.

Best Wishes,
Rick

Well English, I would look at so many flaws in someone's game before I consider the tip as being the issue. Sure if it is not skuffed evenly maybe...
 
If you want the best tip out there now you would go with a G2. Anything else is a waste of time. I've been promoting around me and haven't had someone come back to me with anything negative to say about them yet. In fact quite the opposite. Everyone I know that has tried them has been ecstatic about them.
 
Well English, I would look at so many flaws in someone's game before I consider the tip as being the issue. Sure if it is not skuffed evenly maybe...

Well naji, I didn't think we were talking about flaws in one's game but... the only connection we have with the cue ball is the 'feel' of it that we get through the cue & the part of the cue that affects that 'feel' the most is the tip

I'd say it's the most important part of the instrument with which we play the game.

If the tip fits how the player plays they can focus on playing the game but if the tip just doesn't feel right to them it can get into their mind & that's not a good thing. At least that's how I see it.

Best Wishes,
Rick
 
If you want the best tip out there now you would go with a G2. Anything else is a waste of time. I've been promoting around me and haven't had someone come back to me with anything negative to say about them yet. In fact quite the opposite. Everyone I know that has tried them has been ecstatic about them.


^^^^ these. Those on your list I find lacking. I played for a long time with original Moori's and had a large stock. When I finally ran out about 5 years ago I went on an odyssey to find a new go to tip & ended up going to a triangle as I found nothing pleasing. I discovered Pooldawgs duds through here & switched to them & they played well. When Chris Renfro came out with the Kitech tips I gave them a whirl & they play well & became my new go to. All the while I still lusted for a tip that gave me the grip and feel of the old Moori mediums. About 3 months ago I was visiting an old road partner out west & he turned me onto a G2 Hard saying "this is better than the old Moori mediums". I was skeptical but put it on & all I can say is he was right. Unbelievable grip, solid consistency from tip to tip, no mushrooming. Most of all once you've played them awhile the little nuances you can get out of them by adjusting the speed of your stroke is otherworldly. It's almost like adding 8-10 new options to your arsenal of shots for getting the shape you need in tough spots.

In these threads many say tips are a preferential & they're right, it's a personal thing. Others here have touted Pooldawgs duds & the Kitechs and I have used both & they are great tips, I liked both of them a lot. But if you ever used the old Moori mediums like I did & pine for a tip that brings to the table what those tips did & MORE I highly recommend the G2 Hard. I play 40-50 hours a week and after just a few months of playing with these that many hours I'm so sold on them I spent a heavenly sum of money to purchase what I feel will be a lifetime supply just in case something happens like what happened with the old Moori's. I can't recommend them highly enough.
 
Well naji, I didn't think we were talking about flaws in one's game but... the only connection we have with the cue ball is the 'feel' of it that we get through the cue & the part of the cue that affects that 'feel' the most is the tip

I'd say it's the most important part of the instrument with which we play the game.

If the tip fits how the player plays they can focus on playing the game but if the tip just doesn't feel right to them it can get into their mind & that's not a good thing. At least that's how I see it.

Best Wishes,
Rick

Hi English, i know we will not agree most of the time, because we are not stepping to the plate and being pro players traveling all over the worlds and knowing the real thing that effect the game. But to what we got we can speculate; i for myself developed a system where if i do not see or repeat or do what someone is talking about it is considered garbage 100% of the time and do not waste my time in it.

Examples:
Feel, if two players have two different feeling to a cue tip then what! therefore, my meaning of feel, is, when someone does not know what the heck they are talking about they throw in the word feel. It should never be used it delays a rising pool star from reaching his or her goal

Similarly, the word talent , common, we were not born with a pool cue in our hand, true we had a small little shaft between!!! HAHAHA

Speaking of feel, true story, i lost my tip playing someone, so i decided to continue playing, so scuffed the end of the shaft and roughed it, and played without a tip, i swear played better at that time without the tip, but draw and top of CB was a bit tricky.

So lets agree to remove Feel, and Talent from pool vocabulary because they are marketing words. Other words we will deal with later.

Thanks.





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If you want the best tip out there now you would go with a G2. Anything else is a waste of time. I've been promoting around me and haven't had someone come back to me with anything negative to say about them yet. In fact quite the opposite. Everyone I know that has tried them has been ecstatic about them.

This!!!!!!
 
^^^^ these. Those on your list I find lacking. I played for a long time with original Moori's and had a large stock. When I finally ran out about 5 years ago I went on an odyssey to find a new go to tip & ended up going to a triangle as I found nothing pleasing. I discovered Pooldawgs duds through here & switched to them & they played well. When Chris Renfro came out with the Kitech tips I gave them a whirl & they play well & became my new go to. All the while I still lusted for a tip that gave me the grip and feel of the old Moori mediums. About 3 months ago I was visiting an old road partner out west & he turned me onto a G2 Hard saying "this is better than the old Moori mediums". I was skeptical but put it on & all I can say is he was right. Unbelievable grip, solid consistency from tip to tip, no mushrooming. Most of all once you've played them awhile the little nuances you can get out of them by adjusting the speed of your stroke is otherworldly. It's almost like adding 8-10 new options to your arsenal of shots for getting the shape you need in tough spots.

In these threads many say tips are a preferential & they're right, it's a personal thing. Others here have touted Pooldawgs duds & the Kitechs and I have used both & they are great tips, I liked both of them a lot. But if you ever used the old Moori mediums like I did & pine for a tip that brings to the table what those tips did & MORE I highly recommend the G2 Hard. I play 40-50 hours a week and after just a few months of playing with these that many hours I'm so sold on them I spent a heavenly sum of money to purchase what I feel will be a lifetime supply just in case something happens like what happened with the old Moori's. I can't recommend them highly enough.

And this!!!!!!
 
Ki-Techs
I like these and have given a few out to friends and they like them also.
I gave away all my extra tips and I will soon order some more.
 
Hi English, i know we will not agree most of the time, because we are not stepping to the plate and being pro players traveling all over the worlds and knowing the real thing that effect the game. But to what we got we can speculate; i for myself developed a system where if i do not see or repeat or do what someone is talking about it is considered garbage 100% of the time and do not waste my time in it.

Examples:
Feel, if two players have two different feeling to a cue tip then what! therefore, my meaning of feel, is, when someone does not know what the heck they are talking about they throw in the word feel. It should never be used it delays a rising pool star from reaching his or her goal

Similarly, the word talent , common, we were not born with a pool cue in our hand, true we had a small little shaft between!!! HAHAHA

Speaking of feel, true story, i lost my tip playing someone, so i decided to continue playing, so scuffed the end of the shaft and roughed it, and played without a tip, i swear played better at that time without the tip, but draw and top of CB was a bit tricky.

So lets agree to remove Feel, and Talent from pool vocabulary because they are marketing words. Other words we will deal with later.

Thanks.
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So Naji, You're saying that you could not 'feel' any difference when you hit the ball before the tip came off & after the tip came off. Is that correct? Is that what you're saying? In other words...you have no 'feel'. You don't feel the cue ball on the cue when you stroke it. Is that correct?

Best Wishes,
Rick

PS Also there is such a thing as 'Talent'. That is not to say that one with less talent can not work their way up to the level of the one with more natural talent. But that said there are MANY, in fact most in this world that would 'never' be able to be a major league baseball 'talent' & be able to hit a 90 mph fastball no matter how much they worked to do so. I'm not talking about hitting 1 or 2 out of 1 or 2 hundred, but instead hitting it with some consistency. Some people are blessed with certain 'talents' & others are blessed with other 'talents'. When Ben Hogan's caddy once gave him a yardage as 178 or 179, Mr. Hogan seriously asked him, 'Well which is it?' Many Pro golfers can hit a golf ball that precisely. Some of them had natural talent to do so while others like Mr. Hogan worked very hard to get to that level.

PPS If you don't believe in these things, I guess we will just have to say that we do not agree when it comes to these topics. Either that, or we're not talking about the same things.

feel
fēl/Submit
verb
1.
be aware of (a person or object) through touching or being touched.
"she felt someone touch her shoulder"
synonyms: perceive, sense, detect, discern, notice, be aware of, be conscious of
"she felt a breeze on her back"
be aware of (something happening) through physical sensation.
"she felt the ground give way beneath her"
examine or search by touch.
"he touched her head and felt her hair"
synonyms: touch, stroke, caress, fondle, finger, thumb, handle More
be capable of sensation.

tal·ent
ˈtalənt/Submit
noun
1.
natural aptitude or skill.
"he possesses more talent than any other player"
synonyms: flair, aptitude, facility, gift, knack, technique, touch, bent, ability, expertise, capacity, faculty; More
 
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I am having a new tip put on today, these are the better tips he offers, I like to play with a harder tip, out of these three, which one do you think plays the best and lasts the longest.
They are
Moori,Tiger,Thomas


Thanks for your input.

Ultra skin hard
 
So Naji, You're saying that you could not 'feel' any difference when you hit the ball before the tip came off & after the tip came off. Is that correct? Is that what you're saying? In other words...you have no 'feel'. You don't feel the cue ball on the cue when you stroke it. Is that correct?

Best Wishes,
Rick

PS Also there is such a thing as 'Talent'. That is not to say that one with less talent can not work their way up to the level of the one with more natural talent. But that said there are MANY, in fact most in this world that would 'never' be able to be a major league baseball 'talent' & be able to hit a 90 mph fastball no matter how much they worked to do so. I'm not talking about hitting 1 or 2 out of 1 or 2 hundred, but instead hitting it with some consistency. Some people are blessed with certain 'talents' & others are blessed with other 'talents'. When Ben Hogan's caddy once gave him a yardage as 178 or 179, Mr. Hogan seriously asked him, 'Well which is it?' Many Pro golfers can hit a golf ball that precisely. Some of them had natural talent to do so while others like Mr. Hogan worked very hard to get to that level.

PPS If you don't believe in these things, I guess we will just have to say that we do not agree when it comes to these topics. Either that, or we're not talking about the same things.

feel
fēl/Submit
verb
1.
be aware of (a person or object) through touching or being touched.
"she felt someone touch her shoulder"
synonyms: perceive, sense, detect, discern, notice, be aware of, be conscious of
"she felt a breeze on her back"
be aware of (something happening) through physical sensation.
"she felt the ground give way beneath her"
examine or search by touch.
"he touched her head and felt her hair"
synonyms: touch, stroke, caress, fondle, finger, thumb, handle More
be capable of sensation.

tal·ent
ˈtalənt/Submit
noun
1.
natural aptitude or skill.
"he possesses more talent than any other player"
synonyms: flair, aptitude, facility, gift, knack, technique, touch, bent, ability, expertise, capacity, faculty; More

Rick over my 35 years of pool, when i fail is say to myself, oh well i am not talented and have no feel to tip or cue and quit trying. But last i'd say 4 to 5 years i learned that these two things are in the mind, and will only slow your progress if you believe they exist. Pool cue manufacturers, as well as tips and shafts, wants you to believe in the feel concept so that they tell you, this cue, or that tip, has special feel so you continue to experiment, unfortunately, in the wrong area, where as a $1.00 tip would do just fine, provided you kept practicing the right thing, an believe you have talent as good or better than anyone else, just need to put the time into it.
Final word, sure there are talented people when it comes to being born with such as, good music ears, being tall , good voice, good brain (not really needed for pool), but other things such as math, physics..etc maybe couple more, but pool baseball, tennis, and golf, all it needs is time, the more time invested, the better you will be.

Ok some tips are harder than other, sounds and probably has a bit of different feel, so what if i miss the shot who cares about feel then! i played with many players that shoot with house cues, rarely beat them even with spot...





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I have been playing with a medium G2 lately. I really like it. I have also installed several on customers cues. Everyone is very satisfied. They are very consistent. Play very similar to the old Moori tips - but I dare say a little better.
 
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