Will a Shop Fox 1704 Lathe work on cue shafts and tip repair?
Lathe for tips ect.
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Not to be harsh, but:
For the 7004th time - YES, any functional wood lathe can be used as a tip lathe
IF you are clever and dedicated and knowledgeable enough to make
some modifications and/or pay someone who is.
The fact that you are asking this question tells me you are probably not that guy.
There are people who would help and advise you tho.
Dale(can we make this a sticky?)
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I ask a simple question and this a** ho*** gotta reply with his smart a** remark!
At least he bothered to reply. Most ignore the question when it has been asked for the 7003 time. Especially when the answer is just a few lines down in this thread.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=384355
Or could have been answered with a simple search.
Have a merry Chirstmas. A Ho Ho Ho!
Larry
Or you can just ask a question like the OP did.
This is a forum and forums only thrive when people post on them. If everyone just used search for everything then it would just be a database, actually not even that, because it never would accumulate data.
Smart Ass replies are common occurrences OP, don't take it personal.
Your lathe will take a few hundred dollars to turn into a good tip and ferrule lathe. But that is still less than most simple cue lathes. But you will have to be fairly handy at modifying things to get it done. And you might need to make a trip or two to a local machinist. One of the first things we need to know is how large the spindle is that is coming out the Left/back of your headstock spindle and the size of the thread on the front.
It would cost you about $300 to put a small carriage cross-slide on it to cut tips and ferrules. A chuck for the headstock should run around $100. A rear steady rest and dovetail piece for steadying the large end of the shaft would run you around $125 to $150. A concaved live center is about $45 and lathe pins to match your shafts $12 each. A set of shaft collets $9 and some boring out of your headstock spindle, if possible and you would have a tip and ferrule lathe.
Does your headstock slide up and down the bed of the lathe? If so there may be an easier way to do your steady rest. I have helped modify hundreds of lathes through the years and yours looks like it may be possible to do the above things to. That is actually how I got into the cue lathe business was modifying a wood lathe for cue repair.
It would cost you about $300 to put a small carriage cross-slide on it to cut tips and ferrules. A chuck for the headstock should run around $100. A rear steady rest and dovetail piece for steadying the large end of the shaft would run you around $125 to $150. A concaved live center is about $45 and lathe pins to match your shafts $12 each. A set of shaft collets $9 and some boring out of your headstock spindle, if possible and you would have a tip and ferrule lathe.
Does your headstock slide up and down the bed of the lathe? If so there may be an easier way to do your steady rest. I have helped modify hundreds of lathes through the years and yours looks like it may be possible to do the above things to. That is actually how I got into the cue lathe business was modifying a wood lathe for cue repair.
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I think there should be a sticky.... and use this or a slightly modified version for it. I nominate Chris to be the author.
It would at least eliminate the repeated asking of this question, and the subsequent bickering and attitudes that usually follows.
Dave
There are people using electric hand drills as tip lathes.
Any spinny-spinny will work. A purpose-built lathe will work much better than any hacky solution.
Any spinny-spinny will work. A purpose-built lathe will work much better than any hacky solution.
That would certainly apply if the question had never been asked. However, a simple search would give more info than the OP could ever want.
Furthermore, someone with 60 posts should probably refrain from calling others asshole, especially when their advice is sound.
I agree with this completely.
1. Purpose built lathes
2. Lathes that are "inexpensive" and can be used with a hand drill. Not going to knock anyone's creativity.
3. Wood lathe's and how they can be modified.
I think some of this in in Chris' book.
At the risk of being called an ahole, I'll suggest the OP purchase his(Chris Hightower) cuemaking book. The info inside is worth about 50 times the cost of the book and it is a pretty easy resell when you are done with it.
The man is not an a** ho*** rubberheels. Ya, you got a bit of a smart ass answer, but if you read his reply carefully and maybe do a search on "lathe tips" in this subforum you will learn why.
I do my tips by hand btw, don't bother with a lathe (and I have a metal late with a 1" spindle hole in my garage).
Dave
The original question,,,,,,,,,,,
I actually just did a search for "Shop Fox 1704" , which is specifically WHY the question was asked,,,,,,,, and got no results at all.
I also did a search on "lathe tips" and got 40 pages of results, yet none of them answer the original question specific to "Shop Fox 1704".
Sometimes it's better to just ask. A simple yes or no is a good answer to a lot of questions.
Sometimes ya gotta look closer. This one seems close :
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=327094&highlight=lathe+tips
Dave
Well dimwit - if you don't realize that you are asking about a WOOD lathe,
just like most every other wood lathe in the world, then how hopeless are you?
Did you comprehend the line about there being people who would help you?
I have replaced tips using a wood lathe - that is about 2 1/2 feet away from my
900 pound workhorse metal lathe for 20 plus years.
I have advised others via PM and phone how they can do the same thing if
they are not yet ready to buy a cue lathe.
I would certainly have been more respectful if you had only explained you
were Emperor of the Universe. Let me humbly suggest you contact
Thomas Wayne and seek his opinion.
If you think my answer was smartassed, you should only see me in person.
Dale(who is less likely to be of help to rubberhead)
Yes they are common, but really should be rare. My son came on here for a short time and decided he would rather spend his time elsewhere than put up with what he had to put up with on here.
I can tell you he had a good bit to offer this forum when it comes to knowledge about inlay work, computers and such, but he asked some simple questions just trying to be friendly and he got Smart answers like he should already know the answer or just ask his dad and so on. There is a good thing I think people should do and that is just don't respond to a post if they can't offer any useful information.
Yeah ok, so again I did the "lathe tips" search, and the one you pointed out was on the 10th page out of the 40 pages of results. Does it really bother you guys that much to just give up a sentence of helpful info, or let it lie.
Sometimes people have other things to do.
Well put Chris, maybe coming from you it'll clean some arrogance out of a few ears here.
Yes, like building cues. If you want to learn about building cues. Spend some time reading. Don't come on here expecting busy people to do the work for you. When someone takes the time to point you in the right direction. Don't call them an A HOLE!
Larry
What if someone simply and politely answered "yes"
The next question would be how?
The simple and very obvious reality to these never ending questions is that the aptitude to competently do cue repair never really existed....basically any answer at all is a waste of breathe.
jake< would figure out how to put a tip on with a washing machine....think thats a smartass analogy? Try cue repair
The next question would be how?
The simple and very obvious reality to these never ending questions is that the aptitude to competently do cue repair never really existed....basically any answer at all is a waste of breathe.
jake< would figure out how to put a tip on with a washing machine....think thats a smartass analogy? Try cue repair
If I were that busy building cues I wouldn't be on here pissing people off that I may want to someday sell my cues to. And besides, how do you know he didn't do the search first,,,,,,,,,,the answer to his question is not on here. Many people don't know a lathe from a flyswatter, much less how to look at them and know what their intended use is. The question was simple, and so was the answer.
There are some here who would rather expel their supposed superior knowledge redirecting people and rocking on their great white high horse than just take 10 seconds and answer a simple question,,,,,,,,,,, that they themselves have probably asked, likely on this very forum, or just run across town and ask someone who really knows to avoid showing a chink in their armor publicly, although you Larry have generally not been that guy in my opinion.
I expect most everyone here has asked questions that others may have asked before at some point. I know I'm not reading through 40 pages of threads when I can just ask a simple question and get a useful answer back within sometimes minutes, especially if I was busy working on a cue. There are those, like Chris in this case, who take a couple of minutes and use it in a positive manor to help. Beyond that, what's the point?
And, this is still a forum, where conversation is inevitably imperative.