hard to aim ivisible object ball

Pidge said:
Like I said, this thread is done with. Now I'm doing what you like to do Timmy, I'm passing time and having a little play. I've offered the op my advice, and if he wishes we can communicate via pm.

Yeah, those cases won't make themselves. Bye for now :-)
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lol at the barton comment .... you offered the op advice, good job :thumbup:
 
cookie man said:
Curious about how many shots exactly do you think a person using CTE can make without the adjustments you seem to think we would need.
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That would depend on the user of the system..its obvious you all probably have your own way of doing it. Every time one of you weren't sure of something Stan would come in and set you guys straight. Makes me think some are unsure of what's really going on.:)

The way I see it you all should be able to do the curtain trick..;) by now.
I mean you understand the 5 shots that Rick was talking about...sounds like most of you should be curtain qualified... or is like everything else you just like to talk.:)
 
8pack said:
That would depend on the user of the system..its obvious you all probably have your own way of doing it. Every time one of you weren't sure of something Stan would come in and set you guys straight. Makes me think some are unsure of what's really going on.:)

The way I see it you all should be able to do the curtain trick..;) by now.
I mean you understand the 5 shots that Rick was talking about...sounds like most of you should be curtain qualified... or is like everything else you just like to talk.:)
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do you even understand how the curtain thing is done? pretty much any higher level player can do it using what ever method they use.
 
I have done the curtain thing at Stans. It's really not a big deal at all using CTE/Pro One. I'd also have no issue potting the 5 shots, always being discussed, with the curtain covering the lower third of the table.
 
nobcitypool said:
I have done the curtain thing at Stans. It's really not a big deal at all using CTE/Pro One. I'd also have no issue potting the 5 shots, always being discussed, with the curtain covering the lower third of the table.
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pro1 system teaches you how to read angles. Now someone that shots ghost ball or contact points, etc will struggle with the curtain drill...is my opinion
 
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Its just amazing how full of shit some people are.

If you don't use ghost ball....how can you have a opinion what can and can not be done with it. Same line the CTE users like to use.

If you don't use ghost ball, you don't understand how it is impossible for 5 different shots to provide the same visuals for a center pocket center.

So until you open your mind to ghost ball and it uses, you are really just talking out your ass about ghost ball huh. Same line CTE users like to use.
 
Timothy Rose said:
do you even understand how the curtain thing is done? pretty much any higher level player can do it using what ever method they use.
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Have you ever seen me do the curtain?
Any method? You sound like a very intelligent guy. No wonder shit hits the fan with guys like you and your relation.:smile: where do you guys come up with these unintelligent answers...lol
 
8pack said:
Have you ever seen me do the curtain?
Any method? You sound like a very intelligent guy. No wonder shit hits the fan with guys like you and your relation.:smile: where do you guys come up with these unintelligent answers...lol
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Your contribution in these threads with you always poking your head in and out and babbling something, makes me go ....meh
 
Timothy Rose said:
pro1 system teaches you how to read angles. Now someone that shots ghost ball or contact points, etc will struggle with the curtain drill...is my opinion
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Lol....every one would ...especially if cash was involded.:wink:
 
8pack said:
That would depend on the user of the system..its obvious you all probably have your own way of doing it. Every time one of you weren't sure of something Stan would come in and set you guys straight. Makes me think some are unsure of what's really going on.:)

The way I see it you all should be able to do the curtain trick..;) by now.
I mean you understand the 5 shots that Rick was talking about...sounds like most of you should be curtain qualified... or is like everything else you just like to talk.:)
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I am curtain qualified yes.
 
8pack said:
That would depend on the user of the system..its obvious you all probably have your own way of doing it. Every time one of you weren't sure of something Stan would come in and set you guys straight. Makes me think some are unsure of what's really going on.:)

The way I see it you all should be able to do the curtain trick..;) by now.
I mean you understand the 5 shots that Rick was talking about...sounds like most of you should be curtain qualified... or is like everything else you just like to talk.:)
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So answer my question. Using CTE as u understand it how many shots can u make with out any adjustments.
 
does anyone have a helpful suggestion for the person who started this thread on how to make a 60 degree or greater cut shot?????
im sorry to hijack the thread back to its original intent.....:sorry:............:D
 
Timothy Rose said:
pro1 system teaches you how to read angles. Now someone that shots ghost ball or contact points, etc will struggle with the curtain drill...is my opinion
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What if they establish a intermediate target for the CB to roll on ?

After using ghost ball, contact point or whatever their aiming choice is, establish an intermediate target for the CB to roll on. Target is in between the curtain and CB.
 
nobcitypool said:
Neil, you are making assumptions that he has some skill, apparently because he has been playing for half a century. I've heard from a couple of people who know him that he can't pot three balls in a row on a good day along with some other less than complimentary comments. That makes sense. When would he ever play? He spends more time than most people posting female images on here as if that will somehow get him noticed and make him popular. Wonder if his wife and kids know that he spends hours and hours per week posting images of scantily clad females on a pool forum. Wonder if his buddy Fran still loves him since she has seen all of that?

Child: Dad, did you play pool today?
English: Well, I didn't actually play, but I talked about it.

Child: Kewl. Who did you talk about it with?
English: Well, I didn't actually talk to anyone, I posted on a pool website.

Child: You spent 5 hours chatting on a pool website?
English: Well, I didn't spend all that time chatting. I was posting.

Child: Did you contribute any of your 47 years of knowledge while posting?
English: Most definitely.

Child: Kewl. What knowledge did you contribute?
English: Well, it wasn't exactly knowledge. I spent time disputing this aiming system called CTE.

Child: Kewl. How does this system work?
English: I really have no idea but I don't understand it so it must not work.

Child: Wow, that sounds rather strange. So you spent 5 hours posting about something you don't understand?
English: Well, no. I posted pictures as well.

Child: Kewl. Pictures of you playing pool?
English: No, not exactly?

Child: Pictures of someone else playing pool?
English: Well, no.

Child: What pictures did you post then?
English: I, well, a, you know ... I posted pictures of people.

Child: What people?
English: Just people.

Child: Sounds like you're too embarrassed to tell me the truth.
English: Okay, okay. Pictures of scantily clad females.

Child: You're a perv. I'm telling Mom.
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Knobcity, is a personal attack the best reply you have?
You don't like women and you'd rather argue about aiming......

This forum is for people to have FUN.
If you can't, maybe it is time for you to move on down the road.

I can help you.
 
westlife said:
hello azbilliarders wanna ask what is the technique in aiming a invisible object ball..the straight shot,the 7/8 shot the 5/8 the 3/4 shot and the half ball shot is easy to aim because you can see the aimpoint of the object ball where the cue can point of those spot
this is my problem when it comes to a thin shot like 60deg to up degress its hard to find the right amount of cut to the object ball sometimes i overcut it and undercut it because i think im guessing the right amount of cut shot,is there an easy technique to be thought in a thin cut shot thanks
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This was a good topic for discussion that turned into cxxp like many discussions in this sub-forum before it. I believe there are no such "tricks". Extreme cutshots are hard. You have a small margin for error, and usually the shots have to be hit with some speed as well. The object ball travels slowly, making it vulnerable to rolls and nap effects.

When I learned to play I struggled very much with these shots. Then I started playing against a guy that made most thin cut shots seem like hangers. He stood high above his cue, like an old time straight pool player. I emulated him and started making more of them, especially the relatively short ones. I thought I had stumbled upon a great secret of the game, but alas, it turned into a disappointment. The reason, I suspect, that he and after a while I made these shots was standing tall, giving us a good look at the angle, but on the long shots it can compromise your aim. The solution to this is to look at the shot and aim it while standing up. You commit to this aim you have selected, which is truer than the one you get over the cue. Then you shoot the shot with the chin on or close to the cue. You aim the edge of the cue ball, not it's center which will be pointing into nothing (and thus give you no useful information in this particular case). If you have dropped straight down onto the line of aim you selected when standing up and you commit to the aim you chose, then the ball will drop. If you selected the wrong aim standing up, then experience and repetition will guide your next attempt. NOTHING is learned from adjustments made while in the shooting position.

And another thing: You can get some help from sidespin, both inside and outside on these shots, but IMHO those are crutches that should be abandoned as soon as possible. If you are to be an even moderately successful player you need to be able to hit every shot with the kind of english it requires, not cinching balls all the time. All shots should be shot like you expect to make it. NO jerking, twisting or spinning balls in that you don't have to. If the position requires extreme inside, then shoot it that way with the confidence of a young Earl Strickland, don't poke it with outside or some other crutch solution. When you poke and jerk your stroke it is your brain expecting you to miss the ball. You haven't missed the ball until it stops rolling. If you shoot even these double tough shots with a smooth and even stroke like a hanger, I expect your success rate will increase and if you stay down instead of popping up you will see what you did wrong if you do happen to miss.
 
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60 degree or greater...

Try not looking at the OB when down. Instead look at a spot on the rail where your tip is pointing, which should be way outside if the object ball. Another thing that might help would be to not focus on the cloth, or a specific point on the cloth to aim these shots. Also you could try experimenting with not trying to aim at all...simply stare at the shot for a couple of seconds and concentrate on either the CB, OB or pocket when getting down. Its amazing what shots you can pull off when not thinking.
 
cookie man said:
So answer my question. Using CTE as u understand it how many shots can u make with out any adjustments.
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That would depend on if you got lucky on your set up from the start. If I had to take a guess ...I would say a lot. That's a good thing though, it quite normal.;)

Are you telling me you can fall right on the line that sends the ball to the pocket with your system?? No adjustments...no back and forth with the eyes to really lock the shot in.. If so you're so blessed.:)
 
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