Taiwan TOI

[CJ Wiley]

I'd hate to see anyone suffer from premature eshotulation

You are the devil incarnate, surrounded by saints. Not one has ever sinned.

No, not even "Loucifer". LoL

They sure get excited, I'd hate to see anyone suffer from premature eshotulation from swerve, cling or squirt issues.

TOI IS THE TEACHER

 

[lfigueroa]

That was a straight jab at him, not a sarcastic comment. Everyone who reads it can see it, but you believe whatever you want. FTR Lou I would be ecstatic to make it that many rounds as well as an amateur...absolutely something to be proud of.

Thank you, Simp.

It was all very cool. After each match I'd call home to Gail and that she was so excited for me each time I told her, "Lou won" it was better than any pay out. Funny how what's important changes as you go through life.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

I'm glad to see you done so well.

Were the stronger players you refer to the same players who beat you or players that you weren't playing?
Aloha.

Over four days I got to watch almost all the top guys either on the table next to me, or watching matches in the Accu-Stats arena, or in the Action Room, or any of the other rooms where guys where playing tournament matches or had matched up.

Each year that I go to an event like this I always try and watch and learn. I mean, there are the best guys doing their thing over and over right in front of you. So sometimes I watch for things like how they grip the cue, other times how they bridge, maybe how they cue the ball.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

Congratulations, that is a big accomplishment - you're the one that said it was "lucky," however, I sensed some sarcasm, so ......you know the rest.

You have made it clear that you're a very intelligent person, this can be a Blessing in many instances. You've also made it clear that professional pool players may not be so fortunate, I'm sure they appreciated you Blessing them with your presence.

We are individuals that differ in ideas, behaviors and beliefs. What's good for one, may not be ideal for another, that's what makes life and/or human-beings interesting, adventurous, and even charismatic..

'The Game is the Teacher'

Thanks.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

Lou,

We don't always see eye to eye on everything but you're correct &

I Congratulate You!

Again, Congratulation Lou! Good Playing!

Best 2 You & Yours,
Rick

Thanks, Rick.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Before everyone gets all excited, he is the one that said "frankly, I was lucky"

That's true - it didn't register when I read the post. Sorry I jumped the gun if you meant it innocently - but, frankly, if you didn't it wouldn't be the first time.

Good going, Lou!

pj
chgo

 

[ENGLISH!]

Thanks, Rick.

Lou Figueroa

You're Welcome.

You Earned It! :thumbup2:

 

[lfigueroa]

That's true - it didn't register when I read the post. Sorry I jumped the gun if you meant it innocently - but, frankly, if you didn't it wouldn't be the first time.

Good going, Lou!

pj
chgo

Thanks, PJ. Saw a lot of your home boys down there. Glen, Larry, David, Billy, Bruce, Bobby, and a few more.

Piggy was especially funny. We were by the Tournament Desk and I had got the info I had wanted and he grabbed me by the shoulder and said, "Figueroa, hold on there. I want to talk to you." And then he caught me up on all the local Chi-town gossip.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Thanks, PJ. Saw a lot of your home boys down there. Glen, Larry, David, Billy, Bruce, and a few more.

Piggy was especially funny. We were by the Tournament Desk and I had got the I had wanted and he grabbed me by the shoulder and said, "Figueroa, hold on there. I want to talk to you." And then he caught me up on all the local Chi-town gossip.

Lou Figueroa

I've been playing Bruce a lot lately - do you know how deep he went?

As for the gossip, I deny everything.

pj
chgo

 

[lfigueroa]

I've been playing Bruce a lot lately - do you know how deep he went?

pj
chgo

I believe he went to the 5th Round but will not swear to it.

I did hear some pretty funny stories about Bruce and Freddy, though not about them together :-o

Lou Figueroa

 

[Patrick Johnson]

I believe he went to the 5th Round but will not swear to it.

I did hear some pretty funny stories about Bruce and Freddy, though not about them together :-o

Lou Figueroa

Thanks - I'll probably need surgery to get that outta my head.

pj
chgo

 

[Ron Swanson]

Over four days I got to watch almost all the top guys either on the table next to me, or watching matches in the Accu-Stats arena, or in the Action Room, or any of the other rooms where guys where playing tournament matches or had matched up.

Each year that I go to an event like this I always try and watch and learn. I mean, there are the best guys doing their thing over and over right in front of you. So sometimes I watch for things like how they grip the cue, other times how they bridge, maybe how they cue the ball.

Lou Figueroa

There's only one thing that needs attention, and that is how well they strike the CB.

Everything else is merely window dressing.

 

[lfigueroa]

There's only one thing that needs attention, and that is how well they strike the CB.

Everything else is merely window dressing.

In my experience this is not true and there is much to be learned from observing different techniques such as how/where pros grip the cue and what kind of bridges they use. In fact, last year John Brumback gave me a tip on using particular bridge for a certain shot and told me he knew I was going to miss a shot during our match because I was using the wrong bridge.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Ron Swanson]

In my experience this is not true and there is much to be learned from observing different techniques such as how/where pros grip the cue and what kind of bridges they use. In fact, last year John Brumback gave me a tip on using particular bridge for a certain shot and told me he knew I was going to miss a shot during our match because I was using the wrong bridge.

Lou Figueroa

But does he beat you because he does that, or does he beat you because he strikes the CB more cleanly than you?

He can give you a thouand tips and won't beat him until you can cue like him.

 

[ENGLISH!]

But does he beat you because he does that, or does he beat you because he strikes the CB more cleanly than you?

He can give you a thouand tips and won't beat him until you can cue like him.

Using that bridge (whatever it was) for that shot is what makes John cue better than Lou for that shot.

There are other 'tricks' for good cuing.

If one could get into 'perfect position' to make their normal stroke all of the time then a popular stroking method might be beneficial.

But... actually playing the game does not allow that as well as practicing drills, unless one is practicing shooting from 'awkward' positions.

Just food thought...I hope,
Rick

 

[lfigueroa]

But does he beat you because he does that, or does he beat you because he strikes the CB more cleanly than you?

He can give you a thouand tips and won't beat him until you can cue like him.

Well, why do you think he cues better? That just don't happen on it's own. It is an amalgam of things that include his grip, arm position, head position, bridge, and more. If those components are properly deployed we arrive at cueing the ball more cleanly. Wrong bridge, wrong grip, that doesn't happen.

Lou Figueroa

 

[ENGLISH!]

Well, why do you think he cues better? That just don't happen on it's own. It is an amalgam of things that include his grip, arm position, head position, bridge, and more. If those components are properly deployed we arrive at cueing the ball more cleanly. Wrong bridge, wrong grip, that doesn't happen.

Lou Figueroa

Well said.

But...there is always more than one way to skin a cat & one size does not fit all.

But... I would guess that you know that so I just said it for those that might think there is only one way.

Best,
Rick

 

[duckie]

Using that bridge (whatever it was) for that shot is what makes John cue better than Lou for that shot.

There are other 'tricks' for good cuing.

If one could get into 'perfect position' to make their normal stroke all of the time then a popular stroking method might be beneficial.

But... actually playing the game does not allow that as well as practicing drills, unless one is practicing shooting from 'awkward' positions.

Just food thought...I hope,
Rick

There are no tricks. Only improper practice.

If you are not practicing shooting from any position, you are not practicing proper.

From my practice, I can stroke well from any shooting position. This is a result of losing games because I could not cue well based on shooting position.

Instead of trying one of the many "trick" systems as a cure, I added practicing shooting from any position to my sessions.

You may not be able to shot well from any position, but it's flat wrong to assume this weakness applies to anyone but yourself.

Next time anyone gets to ask a pro questions, ask this one what is more important using a system or proper practice. Followed up with how many hours of practice they have done over the years.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

...he strikes the CB more cleanly

What does "cleanly" mean?

pj
chgo

 

[ENGLISH!]

There are no tricks. Only improper practice.

If you are not practicing shooting from any position, you are not practicing proper.

From my practice, I can stroke well from any shooting position. This is a result of losing games because I could not cue well based on shooting position.

Instead of trying one of the many "trick" systems as a cure, I added practicing shooting from any position to my sessions.

You may not be able to shot well from any position, but it's flat wrong to assume this weakness applies to anyone but yourself.

Next time anyone gets to ask a pro questions, ask this one what is more important using a system or proper practice. Followed up with how many hours of practice they have done over the years.

Greg,

I guess you missed that I put the word 'tricks' in singles quotes.

I can shoot well from almost any position. I was only referring to the shot that Lou said that John knew he was going to miss because of what bridge he was using, I'm sure Lou shoots fine from many positions but apparently he did not shoot well from that one.

I did & still do very similar things as you've talked about & that is how one develops techniques for what many call 'unusual' 'non normal' 'odd' situations. At 61 my body is telling me & I am finding that it is a bit more difficult for me to cue quite as well as I once could in some of those extrenuious situations on a 9' table. I know how to do it & how I did it & now at 61 I am having to adapt some of those techniques a bit.

I'm sorry to say that I think I have misjudge you, or... your personality has just recently changed. I'm not sure which it is.

Best 2 You,
Rick