Scott Frost vs Ronnie Allen in his prime

[mr3cushion]

From a GREAT player, that's been around for awhile!

Just got off the phone with Danny D, it's His 80th birthday and He's doing and feeling GREAT!

On the subject of Him being in AZ at the same time as Mexican Johnny, He wasn't. These are His exact words regarding, SJD, Johnny and Artie as players in their respective primes., He did say He felt Johnny couldn't beat Him playing 1 hole! Also like wise with SJD, He also feels Artie was the BEST player of the three.

He also mentioned that SJD would NOT and couldn't beat him playing, 9 ball, straight pool or one pocket! His exact words were, "San Jose Dick was WAY overrated!" He also added, He didn't feel SJD could beat Johnny! And Artie would definitely win over SJD without a problem!

If ANYONE that knows Danny, knows, HIs honesty has NEVER been in question! You'll never hear him curse or say ill about another person! He just tells it like it is!

 

[SJDinPHX]

Lenny, c'mon, you're better than this. I didn't knock anyone and I give SJD his props as player, he was a player just like Artie was a player. Why don't you tell SJD to stop knocking Artie and his game ? <--RJ--I have never knocked Artie as a 'player'..I have teased him a few times about his spelling, but, we have complimented each others 1P ability, several times on this very forum ! (and Mr3-IQ hated it )

SJD left the pool world, and it seems like it bothers him that others did not. Billy, Freddy and for the most part Artie never did. They never did the 9-5 thing and never will.. <--Why would you say, that I said it "bothered me"?..I have said a hundred times on here, it was the best part of my life..Try and read up on things RJ, you are sounding a lot like your biased, illiterate fellow Chicagoan..."You're better than this"!

Artie's life would make a great book/movie, and his system was genius in sports betting, to say the least. The casino's didn't like getting beat for MILLIONS and put a stop to that and had to play hard ball to stop it. <--Again, you have missed that I have said exactly the same thing on here, several times !..You are confusing my knocking Mr3IQ, (who deserves it)..with knocking his "cult hero/idol"...Its NOT the same thing ! Too bad you can't see that !

I am thankful there are only a few, hard headed, irrational Chicagoans on this forum..And I'm glad I have so much help, setting them straight !

SJD

 

[mr3cushion]

Freddy suffered from one other illness, most TRUE Italians are afflicted with it!
'Italian Alzheimer's,' 'WE NEVER forgive and we NEVER forget!" That's how it was till the end for Freddy!

This is not a trait that should be bragged about in my opinion Bill. We all have our shortcomings and faults, but to state that you will never "forgive and forget" makes me and many other people uncomfortable.

Freddy had many great attributes and contributed immensely to the pool world; but I personally think that was one of Freddy's biggest faults. Right or wrong, that can't be corrected now. It's in the past.

As for Dick, I don't think he subscribes to that logic. He and Beard may have had their differences but they did make amends several times. And, from what I've read, Dick was usually on the giving end.

I wish you guys could drop some of your animosity towards each other for the sake of the game and the character and wholesomeness of this site.

I respect both of you guys accomplishments and careers and wish you the best.

I appreciate your comments, I truly do! As far as Freddy and as far as ANYONE knowing Him better than His immediate family, I think I'm that person!

You're right Freddy's gone, and there's NOT a day that goes by I don't miss Him terribly! I wont elaborate on the relation with SJD and Fred, but, it was NEVER on the mend! EVERY opportunity he had, he tried to demean and embarrass Freddy's ability and recollection of events throughout His life! This I will NEVER forgive!

I've been playing and promoting 3 Cushion for over 50 years, it's a discipline that's part of the cue games! SJD has chosen at EVERY chance he gets to demean and belittle a game that's played still by 'Millions' of players around the world!

I've NEVER tried to shame the game, just some of the (so called) players that try to humiliate, insult, and compromise the living some make primarily from Pool and Billiards! These are actions by someone I don't FORGET!

I'm NOT trying to perpetuate anything, except the truth about certain players and events in their respective primes!

 

[SJDinPHX]

Just got off the phone with Danny D, it's His 80th birthday and He's doing and feeling GREAT!

On the subject of Him being in AZ at the same time as Mexican Johnny, He wasn't. <-- What a surprise, you dodged 'another' losing bet !...These are His exact words regarding, SJD, Johnny and Artie as players in their respective primes., He did say He felt Johnny couldn't beat Him playing 1 hole! Also like wise with SJD...

..He also feels SJD couldn't beat him playing, 9 ball, straight pool or one pocket! His exact words were, "San Jose Dick was WAY overrated!" He also added, He didn't feel SJD could beat Johnny! And Artie would definitely win over SJD without a problem!

If ANYONE that knows Danny, knows, HIs honesty has NEVER been in question! You'll never hear him curse or say ill about another person! He just tells it like it is! <--Hold it..Is this the same Danny D, who lost that long session to Ronnie back in '88...And, is this the same RA I beat regularly, after I came out of retirement ?

Well, I'm sure glad we got that all cleared up !.. Oh, and Happy Birthday Danny !..I hope you'll at least admit, I was ALWAYS older than you..

SJD

PS..Like I said, Mr3?? will NEVER learn, will he? All his 'pretend' phone calls usually backfire on him !

 

[mr3cushion]

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Well, I'm sure glad we got that all cleared up !.. Oh, and Happy Birthday Danny !..I hope you'll at least admit, I was ALWAYS older than you..

SJD

PS..Like I said..Mr3?? will NEVER learn, will he ? All his 'pretend' phone calls usually backfire on him !

ANYONE that want's Danny's private #, Just PM me for verification of our Phone conversation from Him. I'll ask Him first if it's OK to let # out!

Once again, YOU can't handle the TRUTH, about YOURSELF! :banghead: You are REALLY pathetic, to challenge Danny's word and opinion!

But, this is your 'MO,' you say something pleasant about a person like, 'Happy Birthday' and then in the same paragraph call him a 'liar' in your usual 'round-about-way!'

You did that same thing to Freddy, time and time again on the other site!

BTW, If Danny's ability to pick dogs was as SOLID as His honesty, He'd be a 'Billionaire!'

 

[KRJ]

I am thankful there are only a few, hard headed, irrational Chicagoans on this forum..And I'm glad I have so much help, setting them straight !

SJD

Thus, it seems to be fair to say that Freddy and SJD and Artie were top players... and Billy S was an expert 3C player. Not sure what all the arguing is about if everyone agrees that they were all fine players.

Now, you don't like folks promoting themselves, that I understand. But do you need to let everyone know it. Does anyone really care? Who are they hurting exactly? Is someone offended because I sell the best chalk on the planet ?

 

[SJDinPHX]

ANYONE that want's Danny's private #, Just PM me for verification of our Phone conversation from Him. I'll ask Him first if it's OK to let # out!

Once again, YOU can't handle the TRUTH, about YOURSELF! :banghead:

BTW, If Danny's ability to pick dogs was as SOLID as His honesty, He'd be a 'Billionaire!'

Please give Danny another call, and see if he'll be honest about, what he and Freddy REALLY thought/think about YOU ?.....Thats a TRUTH you will NEVER be able to handle ! :sorry:....Careful though, it may cost you another "close friend" !

PS..RJ, this has ALWAYS been the main issue with me, the truth just ain't in him !..(nice chalk tho !)

 

[mr3cushion]

Please give Danny another call, and see if he'll be honest about, what he and Freddy REALLY thought about YOU ?.....Thats a TRUTH you will NEVER be able to handle ! :sorry:....Careful though, it may cost you another "close friend" !

I should give Him another, 'pretend' call! :rotflmao1::rotflmao1:

You are absolutely pitiful! With all your help, YOU got called out AGAIN! When are YOU going to learn! :banghead::banghead:

Well it seems ALL the questions about the 'pecking order' of RA, Artie, Mexican Johnny. Ooops, don't let me forget the 'footnote' SJD have been answered by a few creditable players of that same era! I think I'm satisfied, what about YOU, 'Little Dick?' :grin::grin:

 

[SJDinPHX]

I should give Him another, 'pretend' call! :rotflmao1::rotflmao1:

You are absolutely pitiful! With all your help, YOU got called out AGAIN! When are YOU going to learn! :banghead::banghead:

Well it seems ALL the questions about the 'pecking order' of RA, Artie, Mexican Johnny. Ooops, don't let me forget the 'footnote' SJD have been answered by a few creditable players of that same era! I think I'm satisfied, what about YOU, 'Little Dick?' :grin::grin:

I'm ECSTATIC !..I got you to write another rant, with the usual batch of misspelled words, and your illiterate sentence structure, which makes absolutely NO sense to any normal person ! :sorry:

PS..You even confused your ONLY "close friend" (Don Smith) with that post !:rotflmao1:

Sayonara, Its time to put the troll back under the toilet, and go have a cocktail !

 

[Spimp13]

As Highlander would say...

 

[Fast Lenny]

Their claims are, HE beat and could beat certain players, I'm pretty sure is NOT true! What Bobby, Jay and Billy have to say is fine with me, but he couldn't beat and wasn't in the SAME league as some other players from Chicago, that's all!

This is a 'forum' anyone who is a member can post some input, as I have. If you don't like my post, DON'T read them or DON'T reply! it's really simple!

Someone else brought up the subject of trophies, I just added a funny story to it!

These claims did not come from SJD so it is others opinions and the guys above mentioned have valid opinions that are unbiased unlike yours.

 

[Fast Lenny]

Lenny, c'mon, you're better than this. I didn't knock anyone and I give SJD his props as player, he was a player just like Artie was a player. Why don't you tell SJD to stop knocking Artie and his game ? I'll wait for all those that ever beat Artie in 1Pckt to show up here and tell their tale... it will be a very small list, if there is even such a list.

I was only a teenager when I saw Artie play, and I still don't consider myself a gambler. Yes, I gamble, but not unless I have the best of it, pool, sports, whatever. Artie was a lock, and I made thousands of dollars as a teenager betting on Artie. Heck, my old man would have beat me if I didn't bet on him Between Arties wins and me booking some of the horse players that would send me to the track to place their wagers, I did OK for someone who didn't gamble

Yes, Freddy was a top banker, nobody disputes that. NOBODY other than some west coast guys who like to argue. Why should he not sell his books and DVD just like Frost or other guys. Nothing but great feedback for his DVD's on banking, especially the "banks that don't go, but do" series, very well received.

Billy's trophies didn't spend, he collected checks for his time in the 3C world, with some records that may never be broken. Heck, I didn't even know Billy was the reigning 3C Chicago champs for 7 years in a row back in the 70's, cause I only saw him play 9 ball...

SJD left the pool world, and it seems like it bothers him that others did not. Billy, Freddy and for the most part Artie never did. They never did the 9-5 thing and never will. Artie left pool only because he figured out how to make MUCH more money in Vegas betting in the casino's sports books.

Artie's life would make a great book/movie, and his system was genius in sports betting, to say the least. The casino's didn't like getting beat for MILLIONS and put a stop to that and had to play hard ball to stop it. He gives most every gambler on the planet the Orange Crush who won the MOST money gambling ALL time. There is NO disputing that one, none. My only regret was NOT going out to work for him when he went to Vegas, I went to college instead, but heck, I could have paid cash at UNLV if I did

I have yet to see a post with SJD knocking Artie, post it up please. I don't care about people peddling books and DVDs, I peddle DVDs myself, I was referring to how SJD worked an honest living away from pool for his family which is very honorable. I actually admire Artie and when he post I read it twice, no disputing he was a great player and the same can be said for Dick!

 

[Fast Lenny]

Thus, it seems to be fair to say that Freddy and SJD and Artie were top players... and Billy S was an expert 3C player. Not sure what all the arguing is about if everyone agrees that they were all fine players.

Now, you don't like folks promoting themselves, that I understand. But do you need to let everyone know it. Does anyone really care? Who are they hurting exactly? Is someone offended because I sell the best chalk on the planet ?

You should be sending this to Bill so he zips his lips already, he is the one here putting down Dick and his game. He is putting so much effort into it he is losing fans by the second on this forum because people can see him for what he is. Danny has an opinion but did he ever really see Dick play, did he ever play Dick?

 

[lfigueroa]

Just got off the phone with Danny D, it's His 80th birthday and He's doing and feeling GREAT!

On the subject of Him being in AZ at the same time as Mexican Johnny, He wasn't. These are His exact words regarding, SJD, Johnny and Artie as players in their respective primes., He did say He felt Johnny couldn't beat Him playing 1 hole! Also like wise with SJD, He also feels Artie was the BEST player of the three.

He also mentioned that SJD would NOT and couldn't beat him playing, 9 ball, straight pool or one pocket! His exact words were, "San Jose Dick was WAY overrated!" He also added, He didn't feel SJD could beat Johnny! And Artie would definitely win over SJD without a problem!

If ANYONE that knows Danny, knows, HIs honesty has NEVER been in question! You'll never hear him curse or say ill about another person! He just tells it like it is!

DD expressed his honest *opinion.* Yes, he tells it like it is -- but it's just his *opinion.*

SJD was a great player. Neither you nor DD can take that away from him with your *opinions.*

Lou Figueroa

 

[Fast Lenny]

Here is a little story from SJD when he played Fats, now read what Jersey Red wrote at the end of it.

This is in Shots Moves and Strategies by Eddie Robin, highly recommended book if you want to learn the game of one pocket instead of shooting balls into the rail.

 

[mr3cushion]

Here is a little story from SJD when he played Fats, now read what Jersey Red wrote at the end of it.

This is in Shots Moves and Strategies by Eddie Robin, highly recommended book if you want to learn the game of one pocket instead of shooting balls into the rail.

It seems to me this story is a little out of context to prove YOUR point and opinion, Lenny! I'm pretty sure, this chapter, page or area of the book is about FATS!

Eddie just threw in one of SJD's stories, as a filler for the 'main' character (FATS) of this page or chapter!

About Red, like YOU say Lenny, it's just one man's opinion!

BTW, Red played Artie in 1970 or 71, 10/8 and Red gets ALL the breaks. By your own post with Red's statement and simple math evaluating what the break is worth, Artie was at least 1/2 to a ball better than SJD!

C'mon, you have to do better than this, a story told by SJD when the intended main character is Fats, in a book about 'Teaching' one pocket!

Please show us a page where SJD actually demonstrated something of value to educate the reader about one pocket!

BTW, the story is funny though!

P.S. Lenny, a forum is NOT a popularity contest, it's to INFORM the members of the history, players and education of the game!

SJD claims he beat Mexican Johnny, I think and so does Danny think it's, 'highly unlikely!"

 

[Fast Lenny]

It seems to me this story is a little out of context to prove YOUR point and opinion, Lenny! I'm pretty sure, this chapter, page or area of the book is about FATS!

Eddie just threw in one of SJD's stories, as a filler for the 'main' character (FATS) of this page or chapter!

About Red, like YOU say Lenny, it's just one man's opinion!

BTW, Red played Artie in 1970 or 71, 10/8 and Red gets ALL the breaks. By your own post with Red's statement and simple math evaluating what the break is worth, Artie was at least 1/2 to a ball better than SJD!

C'mon, you have to do better than this, a story told by SJD when the intended main character is Fats, in a book about 'Teaching' one pocket!

Please show us a page where SJD actually demonstrated something of value to educate the reader about one pocket!

BTW, the story is funny though!

You don't seem to read well, I posted to look at Reds statement about SJDs game simple as that. Glad you enjoyed the story though.

As for your math equation...it appears you cant do math or read/write very well. Also was Red in his prime or was Artie? Anyone knows in one pocket if you are a 1/2 ball to a ball better or worse you can win or lose to that guy your playing because players are capable of playing up a ball or down a ball sometimes more.

 

[mr3cushion]

DD expressed his honest *opinion.* Yes, he tells it like it is -- but it's just his *opinion.*

SJD was a great player. Neither you nor DD can take that away from him with your *opinions.*

Lou Figueroa

And that's just YOUR 'opinion,' YOU have NEVER seen him play in his prime!

And as a player and authority on pool in general, Danny's MORE qualified with His opinion than YOU!

 

[Fast Lenny]

And that's just YOUR 'opinion,' YOU have NEVER seen him play in his prime!

Have fun with this thread Bill. I am happy with my posting of Reds opinion and I am sure most people are because Red actually played Dick and Danny never did. Fact is Dick was a great player, who would have won between him and Artie we will never know.

 

[Hungarian]

Damn, As much hate you have for SJD I'm beginning to think he must have taken you woman or something real deep like that...

It seems to me this story is a little out of context to prove YOUR point and opinion, Lenny! I'm pretty sure, this chapter, page or area of the book is about FATS!

Eddie just threw in one of SJD's stories, as a filler for the 'main' character (FATS) of this page or chapter!

About Red, like YOU say Lenny, it's just one man's opinion!

BTW, Red played Artie in 1970 or 71, 10/8 and Red gets ALL the breaks. By your own post with Red's statement and simple math evaluating what the break is worth, Artie was at least 1/2 to a ball better than SJD!

C'mon, you have to do better than this, a story told by SJD when the intended main character is Fats, in a book about 'Teaching' one pocket!

Please show us a page where SJD actually demonstrated something of value to educate the reader about one pocket!

BTW, the story is funny though!

P.S. Lenny, a forum is NOT a popularity contest, it's to INFORM the members of the history, players and education of the game!

SJD claims he beat Mexican Johnny, I think and so does Danny think it's, 'highly unlikely!"