I guess you are one of those people who cannot read. It's probably because you are too busy running your mouth!
Fear of Feel
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I guess you are one of those people who cannot read. It's probably because you are too busy running your mouth!
I read that article before you ever knew it existed. You need to quit running yours and provide something that contributes to the conversations. What do you contribute?
Read my last two posts and step up to the challenge.
Here's one of them just for you: You're the main person right now who is worried about aiming. Why are you so worried what other people do, especially when it comes to CTE? Are you another one who wants to be a "savior" to all the hapless pool players that don't know any better or as much as you? Where can I purchase your books, DVDs, or schedule a lesson to be able to play as great as your skill level? You wouldn't care to put up a video of you playing just so I can get a "feel" of how many thousands of dollars I'm willing to spend to be able to get to your level, would you?
(I didn't think so) (another anonymous fraud hiding behind a keyboard)
Here's the other one:
Anybody who is involved with CTE has learned to play pool and used multiple aiming systems throughout their lives and there are those who still interchange systems but use CTE as their primary method because they found it was a more consistent method of pocketing balls.
You see, we already know what you know as well as PJ and probably more when it comes to all aiming systems. Many of us have played as long or longer than you with or without CTE. Many of us would probably be able to bust you of all your money and worldly possessions playing pool. And most of us aren't afraid to give our real names on this forum or video ourselves playing and doing shotmaking tests.
It warms my heart to see those like yourself use other aiming systems or "feel". I've played that way myself and so has everyone else. Be happy at whatever level you play. But it's the PJ's of the world and followers like you who keep sticking your noses in with obsessions like religious extremists to behead and castrate others who just want to do their own thing by using CTE. Nobody wants or cares to convert you.
Why don't you get on a new kick and tear the Diamond System to shreds, Kicking Systems or various Banking Systems. I'm sure it would be a life long war with those systems also if you applied yourself. You don't like CTE?? Stay the hell OUT!! Get a life!!!
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So you did not find my post funny or odd & you have things in common with Mr. Lee.
That's Interesting.
Best 2 You & All,
Rick
I did find it funny & odd! Best to you too Rick!:thumbup:
That statement is pure B.S. And you know it is. Not once has any advocate of his system stated that his system is the only way one should aim, or that everyone must use it. It's comments like yours that create the crap on here.
Where's the difference?
He chooses a fractional alignment, then adjusts his aim ("pivots") until he sees the shot picture ("visual") that he has learned to recognize by trial and error (practice) - just like all other aiming, and especially like fractional aiming.
You may like the details of your particular way of doing that better than the details of somebody else's particular way, but those are details - in general it's the same way: find the nearest fractional alignment and adjust from there by feel.
That doesn't make this method bad; it just means it isn't really very different from other ways of doing the same thing - it just suits you best.
pj
chgo
Kinda hard to do here at my computer- that's why I talk about stuff here and play pool at the table.
If talking about stuff here hinders your game there, maybe you shouldn't be talking about stuff here. I've never noticed the problem myself.
pj
chgo
That's your problem. Too much typing not enough shooting.
Advertised NO. Talked about YES. But this is the aiming forum after all
I'll bet I play and practice more than you do.
The idea that talking here about the details of playing pool makes you "think too much" at the table is nonsense that we've heard here fairly often - usually by people who spend lots of time here talking about the details playing pool.
pj
chgo
I have to question how much time you really spend at the table. You spend far more time trying to be "right" here on the forum, by far. I think you're one of these intelligent people who has a severe mental imbalance that goes along with it. You'd have to since you've been making the same arguments and need to be right for 17 YEARS between RSB and here. Something wrong there, pal.
But I'm going to give you and everyone else an experiment to do ON THE TABLE.
I don't want to hear any of your usual crap until it's actually done. The only area to be discussed has to do with results. What were they for you?
Hal taught this to me and another part was taught to me by someone else and it has to do with a fraction system along with pivot. Hal had about 20 systems and THIS had more to do with what you refer to as the 3 angle system, not CTE. It's a combination of "stick aiming, centerball, edge, and 1/2 way between center and edge.
DIRECTIONS: Place an OB dead center in the side pocket with the front of the ball accurately measured at 8" from the pocket edge. It should be marked off to the side with a piece of tape or notebook reinforcement because you'll be moving the CB to multiple spots.
Place the back of the CB centered 10" away from the 1st diamond at the other side pocket for a right cut shot. As you align the CB with the OB, straight in should look like it will hit the tip of the pocket. Address the CB with 1/2 tip of INSIDE English from center and the tip of your cue aimed at the CENTER of the OB. Then PIVOT back to the center of the CB and take the shot. It should go in.
Set the OB back to the same preset spot. Move the CB one more diamond away from the side pocket toward the corner pocket to increase the angle with the same 10" away. Address the CB the same way as above with inside offset aiming to center OB and then pivot back to center and take the shot. Should also go in even though it was the same aim point to center of OB and pivot to center.
Set the OB back and now move the CB 10" from the FIRST diamond on the END rail from the corner pocket of the rail you've been shooting from. Now a straight in shot would be aimed slightly more than one diamond beyond the side pocket for the OB.
Do everything the same as before. 1/2 tip inside center CB to center of OB and then pivot back to center of CB. You may make it or your may not. If you miss more than you make use ONE TIP of inside instead of 1/2 tip when pivoting back to center.
So the question is, WHY do these different angled shots all go in with the same starting offset, pivoting back to center, aiming at the CENTER of the OB?
The same results can be duplicated by aiming your tip at the CENTER of the OB while addressing the CENTER of the CB but pivoting 1/2 tip to OUTSIDE English.
As you increase the angle further, your new aim point will be 1/2 way between center and edge with the same tip offsets and either pivoting back to center CB from inside or outside from center.
Let's see who the doers are on the table and the keyboard bullsh*t artists are by battling with words and never getting on the table.
THE ABOVE IS NOT CTE!
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lol - thanks for the diagnosis, Doc. Heal thyself.
Isn't that about the same amount of time you and others have spent being adamantly (even loudly) wrong and misleading? Hey, maybe there's a connection!
pj
chgo
I thought you weren't the betting type. After all why have you rejected all of Stan's offers regarding pocketing and CTE for money?
I put in a good 4 hours a day everyday just at snooker alone. Then at home I have a pool table that probably gets between an hour or two 4 or 5 days a week. Then there is the matches every week...
Because they're nonsense "vanity" bets that have nothing to do with what's being discussed, and accepting one would only give it false legitimacy. (Not to mention that we'd never be able to agree on the terms...)
That's not far from my weekly total - I spend every day not 10 feet from a pool table, and I use it throughout the day, both practicing and playing. If I put in more time than you it isn't much more.
So I guess we both spend too much time talking and not enough shooting, huh?
pj
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I'm not the Doc, but the person who wrote this IS a Doc. Describes you to the letter.
http://scottberkun.com/essays/40-why-smart-people-defend-bad-ideas/
How about you getting on the table and doing what I posted with the 3 line aiming and pivoting instead or running your insane mouth.
Here's one single paragraph from the EXPERT in the link. Sure sounds like you to me. Anybody else agree?
"The problem with smart people is that they like to be right and sometimes will defend ideas to the death rather than admit they’re wrong. This is bad. Worse, if they got away with it when they were young (say, because they were smarter than their parents, their friends, and their parent’s friends) they’ve probably built an ego around being right, and will therefore defend their perfect record of invented righteousness to the death. Smart people often fall into the trap of preferring to be right even if it’s based in delusion, or results in them, or their loved ones, becoming miserable. (Somewhere in your town there is a row of graves at the cemetery, called smartypants lane, filled with people who were buried at poorly attended funerals, whose headstones say “Well, at least I was right.”)
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Pidge, do me a favor. Copy and paste the shooting exercise I posted using center ball, edge, and halfway between C&E to do on your own table. Let me know your results.
I KNOW you can play better than PJ and not afraid to get on the table. He'll never get on the table to do what I posted. It will be the same running of the mouth garbage with all of his wordsmithing cutesy one liners.
I shoot as much as I can. I have no desire to play at the top, I had my chance and decided it wasn't for me. Social life, job, and family come first. No doubt when I'm your age I will be as bitter and twisted as you and make 20+ posts a day always thinking im in the right.
I don't know who you're trying to kid when it comes to the bets Stan makes. I'm not a CTE fan pr a fan of his by any means but you reject them or don't respond to them because you know Stan plays to a very high level. I wish you would just come out and say this is the case and admit that a shooting contest with him isn't fair because he has a better stroke...
I don't know who you're trying to kid when it comes to the bets Stan makes. I'm not a CTE fan pr a fan of his by any means but you reject them or don't respond to them because you know Stan plays to a very high level. I wish you would just come out and say this is the case and admit that a shooting contest with him isn't fair because he has a better stroke...
How about you coming up (for a change) with something better than nonsense "bets" and insults? Do you think your inability to actually discuss a system helps its credibility?
pj
chgo
I've said this more than once. Stan plays better than I do. There I've said it again. Are you convinced now that whatever Stan says about CTE must be right and whatever I say about it must be wrong?
By the way, I can name lots of players better than Stan who don't use CTE and probably think it's silly. Does the fact they play better than Stan mean they're right and he's wrong? How can he and they both be right?
I thought you were smarter than that. Guess it's hard to tell on the interwebz.
pj
chgo
You're exhibiting your mental imbalance right now. There was no BET in my post to do anything other than get on the table using a 3 line reference system with a pivot.
IF you do it we'll have something to discuss. Again, you choose to wordsmith and run or hide behind your keyboard.
Insult? That article must have hit home, huh Mr. Right?