Making a Fair Game

[wutang]

Its been discussed at lengths before in this thread (and probably others)--->http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=2992950#post2992950

And Ill say it again: For most the motto is: NO steal, NO deal!!!!

Wutang

 

[Diamond69]

I'll start by saying I really don't gamble much anymore, but I did gamble TONS in the 80's and 90's.

Back then, games weren't "negotiated" in my area. If you didn't think you could beat someone, you didn't play them. There were plenty of gamblers around, so it wasn't a bunch of meat eaters fighting over the 1 steak.

I love pool, and I was a great player in my area. There was so much action in a 30 mile radius I never had a need to hit the road. I could still make great $$ any night in any bar.

The only time I ever gave a spot was if I already had my opponents $ and just wanted to keep playing, and didn't care if I gave some back, similar to the TCOM "I win, no money, you win, I'll throw you $20".

Fast forward to current times. In my opinion, you give a spot for 2 reasons.

1. You are playing a friend cheap and just adjust back and forth to keep it interesting, since you're not trying to bust your friend anyway.
2. You are desperate to get some $ in play and nobody will play otherwise.

You don't see much "gambling" today, it's more about the art of negotiation.

 

[mikeyfrost]

An academic moment...

Are the following people hustlers or gamblers?

Bartram

Scooter

SVB

Spanky

Minnesota Fats

Pinklady

best,
brian kc

Those guys can all play but most of them are sharks to some players and fish to others. I'd like to hear the consensus myself, good question

 

[jrhendy]

Action

If you are a known action guy and offer up a game, even a bad one for you, many will figure you have an angle and turn you down.

You also are probably giving odds on the $$ because if you like action, you will fire a few more barrels than most that you play against.

If you play in a room that has multiple players you can match up against with anything near a fair game, you are lucky.

 

[decent dennis]

No being broke is not having heart. Usually being broke means all talk and no action. Having to pay in IOUs or play for backers.

Heart is being wiling to outrun the nuts and sometimes take tough action to show what you can do. The window is wide open....and I ain't scared. Sort of like Jose Parica...playing on your own dime.

Pool playing is me against the world. I like the brutal honesty of 2 guys trying to get into each others wallets.

Being broke could also be from paying bill's. I agree abouttaking tough action and such, but according to your first post if you make good money you have heart. Nope

 

[jalapus logan]

For the life of me, I can't figure out why pool players gamble anyway. It certainly must not be for the money, because I have never known any pool player to ever have any. Even if they win a nice score, it seems to be short lived with no lasting economic impact on the fella who won the cash.

I think that their aversion to accumulating lasting wealth must be physiological. Cash in hand and/or wallet gives pool players a skin rash and they have to get rid of it ASAP.

 

[JoeyA]

I'm not sure about the others but that brian kc guy sure seems like he is.

JoeyA

An academic moment...

Are the following people hustlers or gamblers?

Bartram

Scooter

SVB

Spanky

Minnesota Fats

Pinklady

best,
brian kc

 

[JoeyA]

THAT is some seriously funny stuff, right there.

JoeyA

For the life of me, I can't figure out why pool players gamble anyway. It certainly must not be for the money, because I have never known any pool player to ever have any. Even if they win a nice score, it seems to be short lived with no lasting economic impact on the fella who won the cash.

I think that their aversion to accumulating lasting wealth must be physiological. Cash in hand and/or wallet gives pool players a skin rash and they have to get rid of it ASAP.

 

[mikeyfrost]

For the life of me, I can't figure out why pool players gamble anyway. It certainly must not be for the money, because I have never known any pool player to ever have any. Even if they win a nice score, it seems to be short lived with no lasting economic impact on the fella who won the cash.

I think that their aversion to accumulating lasting wealth must be physiological. Cash in hand and/or wallet gives pool players a skin rash and they have to get rid of it ASAP.

That is sig line worthy

 

[Mkbtank]

An oldtimer in philly told me regarding making a game: "Everybody wants a day at the beach. Nobody wants a day at the coal mine. If these guys here agree to a game, you can bet that you are the one down in the mine..."