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The Fisher Queens

by Kim Shaw & Julie Edwards
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The story of three women who turned their dreams into reality and became an inspiration for other young girls to aspire to greatness
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Kim Shaw & Julie Edwards

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ERIC MOREMAN said:
The Fisher Queens

by Kim Shaw & Julie Edwards
7
backers
$5,360
pledged of $40,000 goal
28
days to go
Back This Project
Remind me

This project will only be funded if at least $40,000 is pledged by Fri, May 1 2015 1:48 PM EDT.

The story of three women who turned their dreams into reality and became an inspiration for other young girls to aspire to greatness
Charlotte, NC Documentary Share this project
Kim Shaw & Julie Edwards

First created | 0 backed

See full bio Contact me





https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/48629490/the-fisher-queens?ref=video


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/48629490/the-fisher-queens



https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/48629490/the-fisher-queens?ref=video

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I am always a little confused when I read these kind of requests. My wife and I give away quite a bit of money annually to various things we feel are worthwhile. But this is a business venture. Why would I just give you money for your business venture?

Plus, it is such a small amount of money you are trying to raise. If this is worth doing just fund it yourself. Spike Lee borrowed money on his credit cards to make his first movie.

I am sorry to ask but I just don't get it, it seems so demeaning begging for money for a personal business venture.
 
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macguy said:
I am always a little confused when I read these kind of requests. My wife and I give away quite a bit of money annually to various things we feel are worthwhile. But this is a business venture. Why would I just give you money for your business venture?

Plus, it is such a small amount of money you are trying to raise. If this is worth doing just fund it yourself. Spike Lee borrowed money on his credit cards to make his first movie.

I am sorry to ask but I just don't get it, it seems so demeaning begging for money for a personal business venture.
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Agreed.
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macguy said:
I am always a little confused when I read these kind of requests. My wife and I give away quite a bit of money annually to various things we feel are worthwhile. But this is a business venture. Why would I just give you money for your business venture?

Plus, it is such a small amount of money you are trying to raise. If this is worth doing just fund it yourself. Spike Lee borrowed money on his credit cards to make his first movie.

I am sorry to ask but I just don't get it, it seems so demeaning begging for money for a personal business venture.
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I'm with MacGuy on this one.. Just not enough info for me.. Good luck!
 
Seems like it's good material for a BBC documentary but would have very limited interest in the US.

Good luck.
 
macguy said:
I am always a little confused when I read these kind of requests. My wife and I give away quite a bit of money annually to various things we feel are worthwhile. But this is a business venture. Why would I just give you money for your business venture?

Plus, it is such a small amount of money you are trying to raise. If this is worth doing just fund it yourself. Spike Lee borrowed money on his credit cards to make his first movie.

I am sorry to ask but I just don't get it, it seems so demeaning begging for money for a personal business venture.
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I also agree with Mac, first off Eric Moreman is new here and he only came here to ask for money for his project. Secondly, why doesn't Allison or Kelly come on here themselves to ask? They may get a better response. Third Allison and Kelly never come and take part in the forums for whatever reason but are ok coming here to get our money. I would maybe feel different if they were active here without asking for anything and then asked.
 
macguy said:
I am always a little confused when I read these kind of requests. My wife and I give away quite a bit of money annually to various things we feel are worthwhile. But this is a business venture. Why would I just give you money for your business venture?

Plus, it is such a small amount of money you are trying to raise. If this is worth doing just fund it yourself. Spike Lee borrowed money on his credit cards to make his first movie.

I am sorry to ask but I just don't get it, it seems so demeaning begging for money for a personal business venture.
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He's not asking for himself.
If youd like more info, please listen to this week's episode of ABR
www.americanbilliardradio.com
 
macguy said:
I am always a little confused when I read these kind of requests. My wife and I give away quite a bit of money annually to various things we feel are worthwhile. But this is a business venture. Why would I just give you money for your business venture?

Plus, it is such a small amount of money you are trying to raise. If this is worth doing just fund it yourself. Spike Lee borrowed money on his credit cards to make his first movie.

I am sorry to ask but I just don't get it, it seems so demeaning begging for money for a personal business venture.
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You're not just donating money - you're purchasing the movie in advance. And the price they're asking in return for the movie is reasonable - you can donate more if you want to, but you don't have to.

I like the kickstarter-crowdfunding approach. It's like venture capital but for the masses.
 
macguy said:
I am always a little confused when I read these kind of requests. My wife and I give away quite a bit of money annually to various things we feel are worthwhile. But this is a business venture. Why would I just give you money for your business venture?

Plus, it is such a small amount of money you are trying to raise. If this is worth doing just fund it yourself. Spike Lee borrowed money on his credit cards to make his first movie.

I am sorry to ask but I just don't get it, it seems so demeaning begging for money for a personal business venture.
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Could not agree more.

Can't help also believe that anyone attempting to fund their new business venture by initially tainting it with a public plea for charity from strangers is going to have a rough time of it. JMO

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Exactly, if I had enough money to fund the entire thing I would be called a producer.

If me and 10 other people go in together we should be call investors.

Giving money away with no potential of return is call giving to charity. Are you a charity case? I can think of hundreds of charities more worthy than a film maker.

Reminds me of when I see a volley ball, baseball or basket ball team standing on the side of the road in the middle of summer raising money by bagging when these healthy athletic kids could easily be offering at least a car wash for the money.

LAZY Pathetic and sad.
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I know a guy who invests in business all the time...he prefers to call his firm a "private equity" firm. Here, we call it venture capitalism. Ahhh, but he expects a return on his investment. Silly guy...Oh wait...maybe that's why he has money...he doesn't invest in losers. Instead he sees potential in a business idea and buys in, while lending his expertise to the enterprise.
 
I went to the links.......this is bullshit.......it's akin to just saying you want to gamble playing pool but you want to use other people's money......what is this noble cause.......this is your film........you use your money or borrow it from a bank.....or offer something in return......equity in the film.......you're really looking for venture capital that never gets paid back.......go ask the Fishers to pony up the money.....this is their story....this is your film.....and your have the brass to come mooching here on the Forum for some money.

Jeez, this sure seems like some fugazzi plea for free money so you can go produce this special theme film you have in mind about the Fischer's..........you and the Fischer's stand to benefit from this project so it stands to reason you folks should foot the bill for the film or go get some investor which means giving up some equity in the film but that's only fair......or go to a bank for a loan but asking for donations on the Forum for your own proprietary business project is out of line in my opinion........macguy got it right.

Matt B.
 
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If it was such a great idea, the BBC would be jumping all over it, since "Top Gear" is kaput.
 
RingKing said:
blusteel said:
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Exactly, if I had enough money to fund the entire thing I would be called a producer.

If me and 10 other people go in together we should be call investors.

Giving money away with no potential of return is call giving to charity. Are you a charity case? I can think of hundreds of charities more worthy than a film maker.

Reminds me of when I see a volley ball, baseball or basket ball team standing on the side of the road in the middle of summer raising money by bagging when these healthy athletic kids could easily be offering at least a car wash for the money.

LAZY Pathetic and sad.
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I went to the links.......this is bullshit.......it's akin to just saying you want to gamble playing pool but you want to use other people's money......what is this noble cause.......this is your film........you use your money or borrow it from a bank.....or offer something in return......equity in the film.......you're really looking for venture capital that never gets paid back.......go ask the Fishers to pony up the money.....this is their story....this is your film.....and your have the brass to come mooching here on the Forum for some money.

Jeez, this sure seems like some fugazzi plea for free money so you can go produce this special theme film you have in mind about the Fischer's..........you and the Fischer's stand to benefit from this project so it stands to reason you folks should foot the bill for the film or go get some investor which means giving up some equity in the film but that's only fair......or go to a bank for a loan but asking for donations on the Forum for your own proprietary business project is out of line in my opinion........macguy got it right.

Matt B.
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WTF is wrong with you people? This is a kickstarter. If you'd like to see the movie made, you pay $25 to help them make it, and that's your payment for a copy of the movie when it's done. You pay more, you get other things like a pool lesson with Alison in addition to a copy of the movie. If they don't raise their minimum to make the movie, you get your money back.

The Pebble smartwatch was made with kickstarter - these guys had an idea 3 years ago, people loved it, bought hundreds of thousands of them in advance, and now they've sold a million of them and Apple is releasing one. It's a great, free-market, consumer-driven method of starting a business or funding a project that might not happen otherwise.

Why does this offend you? If you don't care about the movie, don't give them any money. It's not charity, and it's not a business investment. You're just buying a movie you think you might like. :angry:
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The smartwatch was a product ....a tangible invention.........a meaningful product.....not someone's idea for a film, book or painting .......if you can't see the difference with a real product and this then you have real shortcomings.......why not just ask for a financial backer and give up the action but why bother when it's easier to try and get something for free..... but if someone wants to meet the Fisher's, get some autographed stuff, be on Facebook.... go the the big premier.....all the more power to you and them.....it just costs a little more.
 
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BRussell said:
RingKing said:
WTF is wrong with you people? This is a kickstarter. If you'd like to see the movie made, you pay $25 to help them make it, and that's your payment for a copy of the movie when it's done. You pay more, you get other things like a pool lesson with Alison in addition to a copy of the movie. If they don't raise their minimum to make the movie, you get your money back.

The Pebble smartwatch was made with kickstarter - these guys had an idea 3 years ago, people loved it, bought hundreds of thousands of them in advance, and now they've sold a million of them and Apple is releasing one. It's a great, free-market, consumer-driven method of starting a business or funding a project that might not happen otherwise.

Why does this offend you? If you don't care about the movie, don't give them any money. It's not charity, and it's not a business investment. You're just buying a movie you think you might like. :angry:
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I couldn't agree more. To see the backlash AGAINST something like this only furthers my opinion that the real hardcore fans of the game are what is truly wrong with pool to begin with.

As you pointed out, this is a kickstarter campaign. I think that a number of folks dogging the producers for trying to make the film have no clue what kickstarter/crowd-funding is all about, but that doesn't stop them from making comments akin to "you suck for asking for money". This isn't an "investment" in anything other than what they are willing to give you in return for your pledge amount. Do you honestly believe the producers of this film are thinking they are going to cash in for millions after it is made? Did any of you who are criticizing the film makers happen to look at an of the other 1000+ film projects currently active on kickstarter? If getting a copy of the movie, posters, film screenings, pool cues, and even dinner with any of the documentary subjects isn't valuable enough to you, then don't donate to the cause.

Second, this presents an opportunity for a film to be made that just might reach beyond the world of billiards. Telling their story might inspire other young women to dream big. If it were to be made, it might get picked up by the BBC, or even better HBO or Netflix, or find some other manner of reaching the masses that billiards doesn't typically get. If it doesn't get the funding, it doesn't get made. If it doesn't get made, it never has the opportunity to reach a larger audience.
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