CTE Pro One makes no sense to me...
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But then again you have no experience to base your opinion on.
I wholeheartedly agree.
I see you're still trying to convince yourself of that.
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He actually makes the comment , I'll show you how , but really doesn't show you how. Just shoots the ball's in. Logic would tell you if the system took you 6"s on the first shot it should on the second, but that's not the nature of cte, it takes you to right angles. You'll see for yourself.
You are absolutely right. You you wanna understand pool better PJ,(especially cte) stop looking at things logically.
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Hi David,
Thank you much for the glass of cold water in the face.
Sorry for falling off the wagon, so to speak.
I truly do appreciate the wake up call.
I will certainly do my best to comply.
Thanks Again & All the Best 2 You & Yours,
Rick
I see what you did there
He actually makes the comment , I'll show you how , but really doesn't show you how. Just shoots the ball's in. Logic would tell you if the system took you 6"s on the first shot it should on the second, but that's not the nature of cte, it takes you to right angles. You'll see for yourself.
You are absolutely right. You you wanna understand pool better PJ,(especially cte) stop looking at things logically.
CTE is not a system that is easily taught or easily understood. I understood the concept of it very quickly but it took a combination of 3 lessons with Stevie(twice) and Stan(once) for me to connect the dots completely. I hate to say it but I fell like CTE is something that(for most) cannot be learned through DVD or you tube instruction. It is something that most people need to be able to have one on one or group instruction in person to be able to fully grasp the concept of it.
I personally challenge all of the doubters to spend time with Stevie or Stan learning the system in person before you continue to discredit the legitimacy of it. We fear what we do not understand and it is very clear that those of you that constantly attempt to discredit the system are not understanding what it does. I am not saying you are not smart enough or incompetent I'm just saying that the information available may not explain it in a way that connects the dots for you.
My dad, nobcitypool, and I both use CTE/Pro 1 and I'm not sure why but it clicked for me very quickly and for him it has taken much longer to learn to trust it. I much prefer the Pro 1 approach and he prefers the manual pivot. I think it's because I decide on the speed and spin needed, find my perception, get down on the shot and go without giving it anymore thought than is absolutely necessary. He doesn't do that and it's hard to say what exactly he does but considering he is a mechanical engineer I think it may have to do with him wanting to have an exact explanation for everything he does and with CTE, at this point, you just don't have that.
I'm not sure we ever will without having an extremely intelligent Engineer and someone with extensive knowledge or how the brain and eyes perceive things work together with Stan to connect all the dots and frankly I don't need that to know that it works. I realize it's beyond my ability to explain it to all you geniuses so therefor I don't try. I only discuss it at all on here because I respect and appreciate the amount of time and effort that Stan has put into this to bring it to the masses and I have no doubt in the future it will be easier and easier to understand for those of you that want to learn it or doubt it because you just don't get it yet.
Could you elaborate as to why you're saying in person instruction could be required for most?
What did you get in person that you did not get from the DVD or the YouTube Videos?
Thanks in advance,
Rick
I have the CTE Pro One DVD's and me and my friend Russell watched them several times from begining to end and still can not figure out how to use CTE. I just want to look at the ball and know exactly where to hit it. No where in the CTE DVD does it tell me how to do that.
I am the OP and after many months CTE still makes no sense to me...
I am the OP and after many months CTE still makes no sense to me...
I ran into a young fellow about 2 months ago who had just bought the dvd and we talked about it. I told him my feelings and I saw him last week and he told me all the hours he had put into it.
What I find amazing is that when something is complex it seems to be more interesting and people try harder to understand. Human nature I would guess and Im guilty but not with aiming.
Yet i understood it right away and love it.
I challenge you to learn ghost ball contact patch and train using the arrow.
I was able to get direct feedback to specific questions that I had about the perceptions, body position, bridge position, etc. I think because it is such a big departure from the other aiming systems out there it can be difficult to wrap your head around it without that. I've always been a very hands on learner so it's very difficult for me to watch something on a video and then apply it.
I'm a bit different than a lot of CTE/Pro 1 users on here I think because I learned the system through instruction prior to ever watching the dvd's and frankly I don't think I would be using it today if it weren't for that. Although the dvd's make it seem very complex in reality it is quite simple and within an hour of working with Stevie I was picking up the perceptions. The 3 others in the clinic took a bit longer but they had the "aha" moment within 30 minutes of me. I've seen a few players (especially low ranked) have that moment where it clicks and it's pretty funny seeing someone at that very moment they realize how it works and think to themselves "I wish I would have learned this years ago."
I'm not sure if that's the clarification you are looking for...
I used ghost ball for years. I see no point in me spending anymore time practicing a system that involves as much guess work as the ghost ball.
Thanks for the reply.
You would be different than most then, in that you learned before ever even seeing the DVD.
Can you tell me/us what if anything in the system differentiates one shot from another when using the same visual & pivot/sweep?
Thanks again in advance,
Rick
I think that may be why you don't understand it. You are looking for where to hit the ob. With CTE, you find what angle to hit the cb. You first have to let go of what you know about aiming. Then just follow the directions given. As long as you hold on to what you already know about aiming, you will never understand CTE. It truly is a completely different way of aiming.
Try going back through the DVD, with no thought of aiming or making a ball, but just follow the steps given, in order, and see what happens. That's what I had to do, and then it all made sense when the balls started dropping.
One big key is that you have to be able to stroke straight down the line that CTE gives you. The system will give you the shot line, but if your stroke is off, you will miss pocketing the ball.
You have stated you have no intention of ever using the system, or of even trying it again, so why are you asking the same old questions yet again? You have been told by Stan, Mohrt, Gerry, myself, and others that it is ones visual perception of the shot.
It has been explained in detail to where a rock could understand it, so why are you asking about it again?
English It seems to me your question is how can the same perception and pivot be the solution for multiple shots. If it is not I apologize, but it definitely has to do with depth perception and i don't think it can be accurately shown on a 2d picture. To me, a similar example would be Visual Glide Slope Indicators used at airports. The systems shoot multiple directional lights where if you are above or below the glide slope, you'll visually perceive an indication other than being on the glide slope.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXEK4rLbS04