Hi Gary,
You too may want to do as I suggested to Oldmanatc as it may help you along.
Good Luck to you too,
Rick
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CTE Pro One makes no sense to me...
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Hi Gary,
You too may want to do as I suggested to Oldmanatc as it may help you along.
Good Luck to you too,
Rick
"If you and others" had any real experience with CTE than yes, but your opinion and others is that of the keyboard variety so NO.
I have both CTE Pro1 dvds and tried fully adopting it has my main aiming system but I couldn't get used to the pivoting and sweeping. My aiming mainly consists of shaft aiming using the quarter system. I use CTE Pro1 when aiming cut shots 45 degrees or more. Just because I don't fully adopt it doesn't mean that it doesn't work. I try to be open minded to all methods of aiming and take pieces that work for me. But I was shocked to see Stan degrade a method of aiming. It seems out of character but I think he's just frustrated from all the naysayers.
Aristotle looked at the moon & noticed that the shadow from the sun on the face of the moon was an arc, a part of a circle, he said to an associate, 'The earth must be round & not flat.'. His associate said, 'Don't be ridiculous.'.
They then went on a trip & before leaving Aristotle pointed to the sky to show his associate a star formation that was very low near the horizon. When they arrived at their destination Aristotle noticed that the star formation could no longer be seen.
He showed such to his associate & he said again, 'The earth must be round & not flat.'. His associate now with more interest said, 'But the only way to prove that would be to spend what ever amount of time it would take to circumvent the earth & not fall off at the edge if the earth is flat.
Aristotle did not set out to waste his time to circumvent the earth to prove to others what he already knew.
Some individuals live by their intelligence.
They can look at a shovel & know whether it works or not without having to dig ditches for 6 months to make the decision.
They then went on a trip & before leaving Aristotle pointed to the sky to show his associate a star formation that was very low near the horizon. When they arrived at their destination Aristotle noticed that the star formation could no longer be seen.
He showed such to his associate & he said again, 'The earth must be round & not flat.'. His associate now with more interest said, 'But the only way to prove that would be to spend what ever amount of time it would take to circumvent the earth & not fall off at the edge if the earth is flat.
Aristotle did not set out to waste his time to circumvent the earth to prove to others what he already knew.
Some individuals live by their intelligence.
They can look at a shovel & know whether it works or not without having to dig ditches for 6 months to make the decision.
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I had always thought Stan to be a seemingly very nice man. Before I ever came to my conclusion regarding CTE, I noticed what I thought was a change in him. I don't know what could have been the caused of it. How could I? But, I noticed it & it got worse. I sincerely hope that he is okay.
What you and some others have concluded is of no consequence at all. It's of no consequence because you simply do not have any credentials with the system to make such a statement. Only someone proficient in the use of it would be able to make that statement, not someone with only a spattering of knowledge about it.
You also can not make that claim by your faulty reasoning. It is not in the least bit reasonable to say that just because no one qualified has made that claim, then the claim must be false.
Lastly, keep posting in this thread, since you aren't supposed to be talking about CTE anyways. And, even if you were allowed to post in these threads, you aren't the least bit qualified to talk intelligently about CTE anyways. So, why say anything except to troll the thread some more? You have more posts in this thread than anyone, and you don't have a clue about the system.
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Really?? Like you didn't read all those posts about him getting tired of responding to your nonsense? Congrats, Rick, you drove away a good instructor on here. And, before you respond with more of your nonsense, remember that anyone can easily go back and check that what I stated is true.
As is almost always the case you do whatever you will, like taking things out of their complete context, to make distortions of the truth. I was in a conversation with Cookie that HE initiated with me & that post was in response to him.
As to the specifics you have no clue. By your reasoning nearly all of the golf & pool instructors are not qualified to teach or give an opinion or form a conclusion because they are not as proficient as the top players in the sports.
Since you seem to have some rather significant issues with the true meanings of words, Do you know what the word unbiased means?
Do you know what the word credentials means?
All that is really needed to make a proper assessment is an understanding of the difference between objective & subjective. With the understanding of that difference anyone with an ounce of logical common sense can make the proper & appropriate assessment & conclusion.
If you will go back & note all was quiet here. I asked a question & got an answer. I then asked for a clarification & got one. It was over, that is, until Cookie & now You come out with trolling guns blazing.
If it so important that CTE be a totally objective system then show how it is.
That has not & can not be done because it is not. It is still dependent on subjective interpretation & input just as every other system is.
Go ahead & say that it has already been shown & proven til you are blue in the face. Your saying it has been done don't make it so.
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Really?? Like you didn't read all those posts about him getting tired of responding to your nonsense? Congrats, Rick, you drove away a good instructor on here. And, before you respond with more of your nonsense, remember that anyone can easily go back and check that what I stated is true.
I always thought that you did all of what you do on purpose but over the last couple of weeks I am starting to think that you really do have a reading comprehension problem.
Anyone can go back & read what I 'said' & comprehend the time frames as I qualified them.
I woke up the other day with a thought about Stan because of a complimentary pm sent to me & I said a prayer for him.
If one is going to make assertions about a product that one is selling then one should be able to sufficiently answer questions about that product in order to support those assertions. If one can not then one should retract those assertions.
I'm not wasting any more of my time with you & your foolishness. The word used to describe you to me by a management individual seems to be very appropriate.
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Rick, go ahead an make up all the crap you want to. You do it all the time anyways. Like I said, keep posting where you aren't supposed to be, see how that works out for you.
Just so you know, in case you forgot, when that was brought up by nobcity quite awhile back, before he was again banned, I sent a PM for a clarification at that time, as I said that I would.
But like nobcity, and with nearly most everything else, you misinterpret for your own purposes.
May Blessings come your way, Neil, & I sincerely hope that they come soon.
I think that with those YouTube examples we get back to one of the keys which is the word "Perception." Not every ones perception is identical. Obviously there are those that are very successful using the system and there are those that are totally befuddled by that same system.
I remember a series of PM's between Freddy "The Beard" and myself where the bottom line was we agreed that the more systems you knew the more checks and balances you had and the better off you were.
I'm not sure that when I run a rack I can tell you what I did on each shot In fact most often I don't even realize that I am running a rack until it is over.
Take Care & as Daniel says "Keep Loving Pool."
The proper perception is a learned process. Just like in using ghost ball, if you give them a test making the same shots to the right and to the left, you will find that they do better one way over the other direction. That is because they have not yet learned to see a straight line as straight, and are off-set in their vision lineup.
Once you learn the proper way to perceive the lines in CTE, it takes about a second to find them. However, it can take from just a little time, to a lot of time to learn to see the lines properly. Just like it does in any other way to aim correctly. It all boils down to how much time you are willing to put into your game to learn to do the process correctly and how open are you to learning a new way of doing something.
If you don't use ghost ball......you don't have a clue on how to use it therefore stop with discussing ghost ball and what ghost ball user do and do not do.
I hit left and right cuts equally well with ghost ball along with caroms, combos, banks and kicks. The only method that works on all shots possible in the pool world.
How can you even discuss what someone is seeing? You are not them and just because one ghost ball user may do this or that, doesn't mean that applies to all ghost ball users.
Geez.....
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I totally agree with the "geez" part of your post, but that is about all.
1. Just because I don't generally use ghost ball, does not equate to not knowing how to use it.
2. Learn to read, I did not state what ghostballers do and do not do. You totally missed the whole point of my statement because you read it with bias, saw the word ghostball, and felt offended.
3. I never said it applied to all ghostballers, did I?? Nor, did I imply that in the least.
4. If you can't discuss what someone is seeing, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Try READING instead of just assuming that someone is out to attack you. My post had nothing to do with you or with the ghost ball method of aiming. I only mentioned ghost ball as an alternative method to what he was trying to conduct a test to see if his vision center was correct.
Hi Gary,
Thanks & I tend to agree with what you've said here.
The proper perception is a learned process.
Hence, it is learned by trial & error through successes & failures. It is merely building a subconscious data base for future reference.
Hence, whatever one is utilizing as an aid to assist in the building of that subconscious data base is not an objective means that takes one to that exact proper perception of the relation between the CB to OB for any given shot.
It is merely a means that takes one in the area, perhaps very close (some methods closer than others), but then one must still arrive at the exact proper perception of the CB to OB relation for any given shot through the means of calling on that subjective subconscious data base built by the former trial & error with that means, just as one would need do with any other means.
Would you agree or do you see it differently?
Best 2 You & All,
Rick
Man you are relentless with your obsession of the subjective and objective,lol. Gary can answer but i'm willing to bet he could care less.
I wanted to post something to bring the conversation back to CTE.
I find CTE to be a powerful tool and very helpful. There is an element of 'suspending belief' when using this method. It really is an exercise in altered perception. I can't explain why a shot--w/ the exact same cut angle--will use different CTE 'solutions' depending on the distance between CB and OB (I actually know the reason), but I know that CTE helps me find the shot line. Sometimes it works best for me when I let my (67 yr old) eyes blur--it's that kind of an experience of altered perception. I found this short video of Stevie Moore to be of interest, challenging, and it captures the nature of CTE perceptions;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1mlnRiAXA8
I find CTE to be a powerful tool and very helpful. There is an element of 'suspending belief' when using this method. It really is an exercise in altered perception. I can't explain why a shot--w/ the exact same cut angle--will use different CTE 'solutions' depending on the distance between CB and OB (I actually know the reason), but I know that CTE helps me find the shot line. Sometimes it works best for me when I let my (67 yr old) eyes blur--it's that kind of an experience of altered perception. I found this short video of Stevie Moore to be of interest, challenging, and it captures the nature of CTE perceptions;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1mlnRiAXA8