CJ defeats Earl and a Special Thanks to this Forum
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I also was assisted by many top players to reach the level that I'm enjoying now
Thanks, Phil, glad to have the opportunity to help. I also was assisted by many top players to reach the level that I'm enjoying now.....it certainly takes practice, although getting their opinions were valuable to apply to my own style.
The ones that "spew negatives" are following a system of trying to bring themselves up by tearing someone else down. This has worked for them in their past, maybe as a child they felt good about bullying, or taking (in some way) from another kid in school....these things satisfy some desire, unfortunately, it's the "dark side" of human behavior. .
We can't control what others say or think about us, the best we can do is lead by a positive example in your own lives. I've reached the finals in over 50 tournaments so far this year, and have been training many players on a regular basis. My 'Master Collection' was just released and we are in the process of promoting an entirely new game on ESPN. Who knows where this will lead, the GAME is my teacher, I'm just following It's Direction.
'The GAME is our Teacher'
Thanks, Phil, glad to have the opportunity to help. I also was assisted by many top players to reach the level that I'm enjoying now.....it certainly takes practice, although getting their opinions were valuable to apply to my own style.
The ones that "spew negatives" are following a system of trying to bring themselves up by tearing someone else down. This has worked for them in their past, maybe as a child they felt good about bullying, or taking (in some way) from another kid in school....these things satisfy some desire, unfortunately, it's the "dark side" of human behavior. .
We can't control what others say or think about us, the best we can do is lead by a positive example in your own lives. I've reached the finals in over 50 tournaments so far this year, and have been training many players on a regular basis. My 'Master Collection' was just released and we are in the process of promoting an entirely new game on ESPN. Who knows where this will lead, the GAME is my teacher, I'm just following It's Direction.
'The GAME is our Teacher'
Lassiter and I played a very similar style according to Wade Crane
You're right, Luther certainly earned his reputation with knowledge, as well as "heart".
Lassiter and I played a very similar style according to Wade Crane (Billy Johnson).
Wade and I were very good friends and he shared a lot about the older champions that has been incorporated into my own teaching and playing style.
One thing's for sure, when we have a solid foundation, we can play this game better every day, in every way. It only requires the willingness and the belief that we can change and grow by giving up on what we've held onto in the past. If we can't let go of an old idea, a new one cannot take it's place......this is true of old emotions and attitudes too.
You're right, Luther certainly earned his reputation with knowledge, as well as "heart".
Lassiter and I played a very similar style according to Wade Crane (Billy Johnson).
Wade and I were very good friends and he shared a lot about the older champions that has been incorporated into my own teaching and playing style.
One thing's for sure, when we have a solid foundation, we can play this game better every day, in every way. It only requires the willingness and the belief that we can change and grow by giving up on what we've held onto in the past. If we can't let go of an old idea, a new one cannot take it's place......this is true of old emotions and attitudes too.
The US OPEN was the first tournament of any magnitude I'd played in 7-8 years.
Thanks, I appreciate you, and I'm glad you've sent my the PMs to respond to. What's cool, the more I help other people the better my life gets....it doesn't make sense, however, it must be a universal Truth because it's worked every day for years now.
The US OPEN was the first tournament of any magnitude I'd played in 7-8 years. My main occupation was the night club and pool room business the previous years. We had two years we sold more B/L/W than any other bar, restaurant or nightclub in Texas......this was a busy time, and very stressful dealing with over 100 employees, and the ups and downs of the bar/billiards business......martial arts was my only relief, I trained 3/4 times a week with higher belts and every day on my own or with a trainer.
I was too heavy to play at my highest level, in this match I was about 215 and my playing weight is around 190....even 185 allows me to move better and get into a more precise position. Footwork is very important in pool and when I work out too much It actually hurts my game.
Last night I watched the Accu-Stats DVD of Earl Strickland vs. CJ Wiley from the 2006 US Open.
CJ played extremely well, keeping Earl in his seat and not letting him get on a run. Earl was frustrated and stayed that way because CJ was breaking well, making combination shots on the nine, and just over-all playing smart pool.
After watching the match, I couldn't help but feel so very fortunate to belong to this forum and playing pool in this modern age where technology connects all of us and brings us closer. I personally have corresponded with and gotten very great advice from CJ through this forum. What an amazing gift. The free exchange of theories, ideas, strategies and tactics from the sport we all love right in front of us--with professional and extremely talented players.
Then I started to realize that nothing lasts forever. Eventually, CJ will move on as have many other folks on this forum do. After searching through older threads, we all can see members that were once a part of this community but never really around anymore.
So, I would like to extend a great Thanks to CJ Wiley for being an active member of this forum and letting us have access to his thoughts on the sport. To everyone here, make sure you get that question you've been wondering about asked before it's too late. Because the day will come where we will wish we did.
This is the same for all the other minds I have prodded for information and received great answers that have not only helped my game, but increased my enjoyment of the sport: From Glenn Hancock to Geoff Bradshaw to Lee Brett and Dr. Dave and over to SJM and Chris Renfro--there is so much information to be gained and so little time. Thanks for all the learning and sharing.
I don't want to get complacent with the luxury of having this community the way it is right now, but if I remind myself that nothing lasts forever--I can remember to be so very grateful to be here and now.
Thanks, I appreciate you, and I'm glad you've sent my the PMs to respond to. What's cool, the more I help other people the better my life gets....it doesn't make sense, however, it must be a universal Truth because it's worked every day for years now.
The US OPEN was the first tournament of any magnitude I'd played in 7-8 years. My main occupation was the night club and pool room business the previous years. We had two years we sold more B/L/W than any other bar, restaurant or nightclub in Texas......this was a busy time, and very stressful dealing with over 100 employees, and the ups and downs of the bar/billiards business......martial arts was my only relief, I trained 3/4 times a week with higher belts and every day on my own or with a trainer.
I was too heavy to play at my highest level, in this match I was about 215 and my playing weight is around 190....even 185 allows me to move better and get into a more precise position. Footwork is very important in pool and when I work out too much It actually hurts my game.
I can't relate. How does that happen? The more I work out, the better things feel. :smile:
Best,
Mike
now they play even shorter races, so "1 on the wire" is quite a bit.
When I bulk up too much in my shoulders and upper body it changes my "center," and I can't get my stoke perfectly in front of my line of vision. The extra weight also changes how I move my feet slightly, and when I'm playing champion players it shows up......usually enough to make a slight difference, and I can't spot them a game or two going to 11......and now they play even shorter races, so "1 on the wire" is quite a bit.
When I bulk up too much in my shoulders and upper body it changes my "center," and I can't get my stoke perfectly in front of my line of vision. The extra weight also changes how I move my feet slightly, and when I'm playing champion players it shows up......usually enough to make a slight difference, and I can't spot them a game or two going to 11......and now they play even shorter races, so "1 on the wire" is quite a bit.
Banks
Banned
You mean like misleading or lying for financial gain? Hmm.. i wonder who has done that before.. as a child.. for a living..
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck..
GoldenFlash
Banned
I don't care what these grouchy ones post or say. The information you've posted has been most valuable to me.
Furthermore, Wimpy absolutely used some inside English on just about every single shot.
We all saw him play here in Atlanta around 1954 or '56 and he had a red line painted on the ferrule of his cue. He aimed that line dead at the center or edge of the object ball and then with his cueing hand he rotated the cue until that red line gave a little inside English on the cue ball and he fired 'em in the hole.
Danny Jones, Don Watson, Joe Cosgrove, all watched it too..... both at Big Town Billiards and York's Billiards.
I know that red line was removed after a while...I don't think he wanted to tip off his secrets. The line on the ferrule wasn't there at Johnston City.
Billy Johnson (Crane) moved here in the 60's and took over the top dog player spot here. I watched him play hundreds of times and he was doing the same thing (without the red line).
Danny Jones was a helluva snooker player as well...he was an inside English shooter too. He was just a country boy from a little hick town north of Atlanta called "Kennesaw". But he learned the game fast.
Thanks for all the good things you do for the game. Don't let 'em grind you down.
Most of these people who have all these various anger schemes remind me of some guy who knows 187 ways to make love to a woman but he can't get a date. :smile:
Regards,
Flash
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Ok. Putting size on isn't always the answer in some activities. I guess a total body program may help that.
I try to balance any lifting with stretching and cardio. It helps with the soreness, too. I never noticed any problem with my pool game unless I lay off for a while.
Best,
Mike
Flash,
Could you please explain the red line on the ferrule, again (sorry for the hijack in advance).
Best,
Mike
players knew I was doing something different, but could never figure out what it was
The part about not getting a date my be more than an analogy.
Like many things in life, what looks good on paper and "makes sense" doesn't necessarily apply to real life.
I appreciate you bringing up the facts about Wimpy and the red ferrule. He used the same technique as I learned, just didn't share it with anyone. I can't blame him, we never shared it either, players knew I was doing something different, but could never figure out what it was.
Wade was one of my connections to that era. "JR Weldon" was another one that showed me how effective the "inside game" was, and was the 2nd best one-handed player in the country (maybe the world).
The players of that generation were mentally intimidating, and played on more challenging tables, using tougher rules than today's. The current "one foul rules" reward players for not taking chances, so the strategy very limited. Playing "Push Out" rules changes this scenario and also separates the "men from the boys".
The part about not getting a date my be more than an analogy.
Like many things in life, what looks good on paper and "makes sense" doesn't necessarily apply to real life. I appreciate you bringing up the facts about Wimpy and the red ferrule. He used the same technique as I learned, just didn't share it with anyone. I can't blame him, we never shared it either, players knew I was doing something different, but could never figure out what it was.
Wade was one of my connections to that era. "JR Weldon" was another one that showed me how effective the "inside game" was, and was the 2nd best one-handed player in the country (maybe the world).
The players of that generation were mentally intimidating, and played on more challenging tables, using tougher rules than today's. The current "one foul rules" reward players for not taking chances, so the strategy very limited. Playing "Push Out" rules changes this scenario and also separates the "men from the boys".
.it brings in the side of the cue ball that will actually create the angle.
He used this like I use the TOI to the center or edge of the object ball. He would line up the red to the center, for instance, then turn the line towards the inside.....the more he turned it to the inside, the more the object ball would cut. This is how we use the visual illusion of the shot to our benefit. This is something that must be shown in person, in writing it sounds "too good to be true," TOI is too good to be true, that's why many won't believe it. LoL
Some players use the inside of the ferrule, as long as it's to the "Touch of Inside" of the cue ball it works....it brings in the side of the cue ball that will actually create the angle.
He used this like I use the TOI to the center or edge of the object ball. He would line up the red to the center, for instance, then turn the line towards the inside.....the more he turned it to the inside, the more the object ball would cut. This is how we use the visual illusion of the shot to our benefit. This is something that must be shown in person, in writing it sounds "too good to be true," TOI is too good to be true, that's why many won't believe it. LoL
Some players use the inside of the ferrule, as long as it's to the "Touch of Inside" of the cue ball it works....it brings in the side of the cue ball that will actually create the angle.
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No good dead goes unpunished
No good dead goes unpunished.......and such is life.
'The Game of Life is the Teacher'
No good dead goes unpunished.......and such is life.
'The Game of Life is the Teacher'
GoldenFlash
Banned
By golly that is EXACTLY RIGHT. That's what he did. That's what Billy and Danny did also.
I never knew the "why" of it working and I don't think they did either....and didn't really care.
Pro flychasers in the outfield of baseball, (when it was real), didn't know WHY a ball would ricochet to the same area over and over again off certain advertising signs out there but they just knew if they headed on the run to those areas they would have a good chance of getting it on the bounce and nail that runner trying to turn the corner at second and make a triple out of a double.
Those pool champions just knew it made the balls go into the pockets easier and would GET THE CASH.
There is a sentence you stated in your video....."this method will get the cash, the other stuff is guesswork".
A very powerful and important comment and, as usual, overlooked by the unwashed masses.
Consistently doing the same thing, over and over and over for HOURS....until the opponent's 'guesswork' or 'feelings' begin to breakdown and he starts missing or making bad judgments.
Smoke in the eyes, sick at the stomach, tired, intimidated, urinary tract inflamed, wife or gf mad, travelling light, toothache, car running on 'maypops', doesn't matter....it just keeps on punching the balls in the pockets.
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I don't know if that video was the actual words of Mr. O'Sullivan to which CJ was referring.
However, when it was brought up, CJ quickly clarified that he was not speaking literally & any rational unbiased individual should have realized that, as it is against the rules to literally hit the cue ball with one's elbow.
I guess you missed the posts thanking CJ for that thought has it immediately helped them as soon as they put it into practice.
I'm not defending any nonsense.
It is you that is being nonsensical...again & bringing up more of your distortions of the actual matters.
Do you really expect any reader here to honestly think that CJ was actually speaking literally about hitting the cue ball with the elbow.
I think some are grasping at straws to try to discredit CJ. I wonder how foolish the general readership thinks those individuals are.
You have a Great Evening.
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