CJ defeats Earl and a Special Thanks to this Forum

[SJDinPHX]

CJ is a major PLUS in these forums. See above^^^^^ All positive.

Yes 9and out, no doubt about it..CJ is a major PLUS in these forums !..He is trying his best, to improve all his avid fan's pool game, most of whom obviously will never make a ball, unless they use 'TOI'... "clear their hips"...and their left foot is "properly placed" ! (LMFAO :sorry !

My only real problem is, his method of spreading his wisdom !..Do we really need all his lessons on morality, and how we can drastically improve our lives, if we all just follow his teachings ?...
..Is he "Billy Graham", or a pool player?...Or maybe a martial arts, or yoga instructor ?..MY IQ is well over 30, and I must admit I'm confused ..

PS..Bottom line..If he steps on my grass, I will shoot him right between the eyes..and I shoot pretty damn straight !..(unless of course, I'm drinking)

 

[Mikjary]

Hi Mike,

I think what you are talking about is something I picked up from Gene Albrecht when he showed me that for pool I am left eyed.

By having to make sure that I see the line with my left eye it sort of puts me into a better upright stance from which to go into the shooting position.

Like you say, it felt very mechanical at first but over time it has become 2nd. nature & it has allowed me to do that bit of shuffle wiggle that I've always sort of done but now it's more only with the lower half has my head & eye now stays on the line.

The 'trick' for me is to look at the OB as I go from upright into the the shooting position. Only once down do I then give a glance to the CB to position the tip.

I would no longer consider myself to be on the slow side as I became after my eye accident more than 15 years ago. I'm now playing more like I did before the accident & the astigmatism.

It really is a bit funny how some little things can have such a significant affect.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick

Hey Rick,

I follow what you're saying about staying on the shot line. I try to keep my eyes on the object ball as I move down into the shot.

In addition, I was talking about CJ's suggestion of being in the finish position, my final shooting position, when I'm standing upright. I get into the same stance and body alignment I'll use when down on the shot. I was saying it felt mechanical keeping myself somewhat loosely "locked" into a position and maintaining it as I bent over.

A couple of things popped up right away when you do this. You immediately notice the wrong placement of your feet, if you're not lined up right. You'll be off the shot line and feel it right away. Your body wants to move and adjust for the improper alignment.

Another red flag is your head position moving off of the shot line. As your body moves down, you're not able to adjust your head because it's locked to the body. You feel it move off of the shot line. The shot looks off and you notice your head not coming down into the proper place.

I would think this could be adapted and used fairly quickly into one's PSR. It'd definitely help with vision center problems and moving off of the shot line. The only real problem I see with it is that CJ suggested it.

Best,
Mike

 

[ENGLISH!]

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Yeah Mike,

What could he know about anything related to playing pool well.

And that Gene guy too.

Both of them have only been studying up on their stuff for many many years.

Best 2 Ya & a Good Evening,
Rick

 

[Neil]

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Yeah Mike,

What could he know about anything related to playing pool well.

And that Gene guy too.

Both of them have only been studying up on their stuff for many many years.

Best 2 Ya & a Good Evening,
Rick

Why even make a statement like that except to cause division on here? YOU are the ONLY one that has stated that. Not a single person has said that he didn't know anything, or never played well except you just now.

 

[Neil]

Hey Rick,

I follow what you're saying about staying on the shot line. I try to keep my eyes on the object ball as I move down into the shot.

In addition, I was talking about CJ's suggestion of being in the finish position, my final shooting position, when I'm standing upright. I get into the same stance and body alignment I'll use when down on the shot. I was saying it felt mechanical keeping myself somewhat loosely "locked" into a position and maintaining it as I bent over.

A couple of things popped up right away when you do this. You immediately notice the wrong placement of your feet, if you're not lined up right. You'll be off the shot line and feel it right away. Your body wants to move and adjust for the improper alignment.

Another red flag is your head position moving off of the shot line. As your body moves down, you're not able to adjust your head because it's locked to the body. You feel it move off of the shot line. The shot looks off and you notice your head not coming down into the proper place.

I would think this could be adapted and used fairly quickly into one's PSR. It'd definitely help with vision center problems and moving off of the shot line. The only real problem I see with it is that CJ suggested it.

Best,
Mike

Oh, you mean him suggesting it after mocking someone else on here the other day for saying it first? Not the first time he's done that on here with others either.

 

[ENGLISH!]

Why even make a statement like that except to cause division on here? YOU are the ONLY one that has stated that. Not a single person has said that he didn't know anything, or never played well except you just now.

Neil,

I'd suggest that you keep your day job as you are simply terrible when you try to read the minds & intentions of others.

I did not say that CJ or Gene doesn't know anything nor did I say that they never played well.

I was paying both of them a compliment.

 

[CJ Wiley]

kineseogy that's essential for a strong, structural, stroke

Hey Rick,

I follow what you're saying about staying on the shot line. I try to keep my eyes on the object ball as I move down into the shot.

In addition, I was talking about CJ's suggestion of being in the finish position, my final shooting position, when I'm standing upright. I get into the same stance and body alignment I'll use when down on the shot. I was saying it felt mechanical keeping myself somewhat loosely "locked" into a position and maintaining it as I bent over.

A couple of things popped up right away when you do this. You immediately notice the wrong placement of your feet, if you're not lined up right. You'll be off the shot line and feel it right away. Your body wants to move and adjust for the improper alignment.

Another red flag is your head position moving off of the shot line. As your body moves down, you're not able to adjust your head because it's locked to the body. You feel it move off of the shot line. The shot looks off and you notice your head not coming down into the proper place.

I would think this could be adapted and used fairly quickly into one's PSR. It'd definitely help with vision center problems and moving off of the shot line. The only real problem I see with it is that CJ suggested it.

Best,
Mike

I'm also going to suggest something else very soon that will improve understanding with many players. It's the "forward press" and how it is used to alter the undesirable momentum when coming down on the cue ball.....it's kineseogy that's essential for a strong, structural, stroke. 'The GAME is our teacher'

 

[CJ Wiley]

Compliments Characterizes Charisma

Neil,

I'd suggest that you keep your day job as you are simply terrible when you try to read the minds & intentions of others.

I did not say that CJ or Gene doesn't know anything nor did I say that they never played well.

I was paying both of them a compliment.

Thank you!!!

 

[Neil]

Neil,

I'd suggest that you keep your day job as you are simply terrible when you try to read the minds & intentions of others.

I did not say that CJ or Gene doesn't know anything nor did I say that they never played well.

I was paying both of them a compliment.

:thud::thud::thud::thud:

 

[Neil]

Thank you!!!

Maybe you should read what he wrote first before you post agreeing with him and looking like a doofus.

 

[ENGLISH!]

Maybe you should read what he wrote first before you post agreeing with him and looking like a doofus.

Neil do you know how to pay a complement or make a joke using sarcasm?

I'm confident that Mike, CJ, & Gene, understand what I said when in the context of the conversation with Mike.

Do you really have the problems that you exhibit or do you just do what you do on purpose just for no good reasons?

 

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[CJ Wiley]

Doofus Definition: a kind, considerate, helpful individual with positive potential

Maybe you should read what he wrote first before you post agreeing with him and looking like a doofus.

Being called a "doofus" by you is also a compliment.

Thank you!!!

 

[CJ Wiley]

Even in my filmed matches it's virtually impossible to detect.

I missed this in all the priceless banter going on. I don't have the problem of clearing the hips. A few more Drambuie cocktails and I may. :grin-square:

As far as the footwork involved, I have been known to shuffle, bob, and weave now and then. I attribute a lot of this to an improper or unfocused PSR. I get rolling and forget my rhythm. Never good unless you're playing unconscious.

I just started looking at something CJ said in this thread about getting into the shooting position while in my PSR, before getting down on the shot. I've found it gets everything where it needs to be, including my feet.

It feels mechanical, but solid. I haven't developed a feel for it yet, though it's pretty straightforward and easy to do. Sometimes, the simplest things get overlooked and you go from A to C, missing the obvious. I think it's a keeper and could help players at all levels. Even the guys in NOLA could benefit at their advanced level of play. :thumbup:

Best,
Mike

There is a way to connect the entire body to the cue in a way that influences it to move forward on a straight line. This isn't easy to describe in writing, however, it involves using the hips to control the head movement, and the right hand to control the tip in the same way.......so the motion is perfectly blended together.

What's interesting, is I can tell someone what I'm doing and it's still very difficult to see. There is, what seems to be and optical illusion when these things are done together.

Even in my filmed matches it's virtually impossible to detect.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

Rodney Dangerfield you are not....

I think you need to work on your delivery.

Neil do you know how to pay a complement or make a joke using sarcasm?

I'm confident that Mike, CJ, & Gene, understand what I said when in the context of the conversation with Mike.

Do you really have the problems that you exhibit or do you just do what you do on purpose just for no good reasons?

 

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[ENGLISH!]

Rodney Dangerfield you are not....

I think you need to work on your delivery.

I was going to respond but instead I'll just assume that you meant to put a lil smiley emoticon with your post, but you forgot.:wink:

 

[Mikjary]

The CB is the target. Throw 2 balls on the table and walk away.......come back in 1 yr and they'll still be in the same spot (barring a natural disaster). The pockets on the table will also be in the same place. The only ball we can legally put into motion is the CB........ by hitting it with the tip of the stick.

Any player that can run racks probably knows how to stand, aim and stroke. If we could set up on the shot with our tip paused at the CB and just say "fire", and then have the CB go straight down that line, we'd all likely never miss (sort of like virtual pool where you can just click the mouse).

But real pool is not like this. The hard part is delivering the cue (tip) right back to that perfect setup position during the final forward stroke. Flaws are likely due to body movement up/down or sideways during the final stroke. Or it's due to unwanted shoulder (and wrist) movement which can cause left/right movement of the forearm or up/down movement of the elbow. All this causes the swing arc/stroke plane to change which results in the tip arriving at a different location on the CB. Deceleration can cause a miss with an otherwise perfect setup and straight stroke.

The CB is the target........I think even CJ agrees with this. Many great players look at the CB last because they know it's so important. The trick is to have a straight, repeatable stroke that brings the tip right back to where you set it at your final pause........... just letting the CB be in the way vs. trying to "steer" the tip.

Yes, I agree. The physical target is the cue ball. And an argument can also be made for the object ball, the pocket, and possibly the position of the cue ball on higher percentage shots as the targets. The physical act wasn't my point of being the "target."

I was suggesting a different way of approaching the shot mentally which changes the shot perception. The physical approach is the same. Just a new way of looking at something that we've seen thousands of times.

Best,
Mike

 

[Mikjary]

Basically, one needs a good, solid stance which will prevent movement of the body during the stroke...........any movement left/right/up/down of the lower body and trunk during the final forward stroke will likely change the desired tip location on the CB. A solid stance, with good alignment to the shot line.....back foot on the this line, etc.

Nothing new here..........this has been taught FOREVER.

When the body is positioned "with the finish in mind", the movement of the hips does control the upper body and head position. With a locked head to the body, any swivel, turn, or back and forth movement of the hips dictates the head position as the shooter gets down on the shot.

When I assemble my "parts" to assume the shooting position while I'm standing, I move my hips back and bend at the waist. This lowers my head causing it to remain on the shot line. If I turn my hips slightly, my head noticeably moves off of the shot line.

Some players turn down into the shot. They aim and, ala Jimmy Reid, twist down onto the aiming line. I've found, if I move straight back with my hips, I stay on the shot line. Any twisting puts my head in the wrong position. Locking into the shooting position standing up helps with my alignment as I drop down on the shot.

Best,
Mike

 

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