why are the british the best in the world?

7forlife said:
I'm going with discipline.
Since pool started here it was played often and great players come about, but times have changed and the mentality and attitude along with it.
Americans tend to have this sense of entitlement and don't feel the need to work hard for, that along with it not being as much of our culture anymore. In a few more years when the cycle goes around USA will fall even further behind, the youngster the were coming up when our greats were playing are here now, there are many young ones being produced everywhere but here so when the appeltons and shane become the efren, earl and siegal of today we will only be left with maaaybe Sky being shane and the rest of the world with a fresh batch of neil, mika, Ko, DAZ

the difference is clear in the playing styles who puts in the most time at a structured routine verse "YOU NEED TO GAMBLE KID IF YOU WANT TO GET BETTER"
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Man, you are way off the pace with that one. The brits are idle to the core. We have no discipline whatsoever, and are probably the laziest nation in the civilised world.

Laziness is probably quite a good answer - why chase after a football when you can bend over a table?
 
Ron Swanson said:
I'm not just talking about snooker here. You name it, E8B, A8B, C8B, 9 ball, 10 ball, billiards, snooker...we smash the lot.

Why?
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Actually, no, you (they) don't smash the lot.
But feel free to look up some records to prove me wrong.

Cheery O
 
Mr. Bond said:
Actually, no, you (they) don't smash the lot.
But feel free to look up some records to prove me wrong.

Cheery O
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Would you care to tell me which Americans have won titles in e8b, c8b, billiards and snooker? Victories against 8 year olds don't count.

You may peruse the record books at your leisure.
 
the brits are the best in snooker, absolutely agree, ronnie O is a legend. I love snooker but never play. they are the best bc its all they play. simple. snooker is very mechanical, thats why snooker players are superior shot makers. pool on the other hand requires poetry. the game is played off the rails, for every snooker shot pool has 20 more. the games can't be compared, no matter how much you try. just bc they both require balls and sticks doesn't make them the same. I can prove this, set up the best snooker player in the world against a decent pro pool player and have them play three cushion. the pool player wins. every-time. and that is why the games are different. one requires shot making ability, snooker players are the best, no doubt. the other requires shot making and movement. complex movement, something snooker rarely needs. prove me wrong.
 
poQet trainer said:
the brits are the best in snooker, absolutely agree, ronnie O is a legend. I love snooker but never play. they are the best bc its all they play. simple. snooker is very mechanical, thats why snooker players are superior shot makers. pool on the other hand requires poetry. the game is played off the rails, for every snooker shot pool has 20 more. the games can't be compared, no matter how much you try. just bc they both require balls and sticks doesn't make them the same. I can prove this, set up the best snooker player in the world against a decent pro pool player and have them play three cushion. the pool player wins. every-time. and that is why the games are different. one requires shot making ability, snooker players are the best, no doubt. the other requires shot making and movement. complex movement, something snooker rarely needs. prove me wrong.
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You done that yourself, quite admirably. But you've missed the point. There's barely a cue sport that brits haven't mastered, but the same cannot be said for any other nation. Why is that?
 
Ron Swanson said:
I'm not just talking about snooker here. You name it, E8B, A8B, C8B, 9 ball, 10 ball, billiards, snooker...we smash the lot.

Why?
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OK I'll name it. 9 ball and 10 ball in world competition, which are the primary world competition games. The other games are regional or we don't play. Name a 3 dominant Brits in these games and their titles.
 
Ron Swanson said:
You done that yourself, quite admirably. But you've missed the point. There's barely a cue sport that brits haven't mastered, but the same cannot be said for any other nation. Why is that?
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when its all said and done its about culture.I dont know if you are trying to prove that your blood is better than american blood, that you have something that we don't have. the brits are really into cars and racing, and they like to argue that their engineers are better, but they never mention that your companies use american and German engines in their cars. this argument can be spread across the board. what are you trying to say exactly?
 
You have had many three cushion billiard champions?

How about one pocket?

Banks?

Your E-@enis is getting smaller by the cue-sport.


Ron Swanson said:
I'm not just talking about snooker here. You name it, E8B, A8B, C8B, 9 ball, 10 ball, billiards, snooker...we smash the lot.

Why?
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JoeyInCali said:
Fish and chips improve your eyes and stroke.
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Ron Swanson said:
I'm not just talking about snooker here. You name it, E8B, A8B, C8B, 9 ball, 10 ball, billiards, snooker...we smash the lot.

Why?
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My choice of games for an all-round billiard championship would be snooker on a 6x12,
3-cushion billiards on a 5x10, and straight pool on a 4.5x9.

It would be interesting to see which nationalities would be most prevalent in the last 16.
 
Ron Swanson said:
Would you care to tell me which Americans have won titles in e8b, c8b, billiards and snooker? Victories against 8 year olds don't count.

You may peruse the record books at your leisure.
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Wait a minute, what happened to non-English 8ball, 9ball, 10ball, 14.1, one pocket and " the lot" you are supposed to have smashed? ( don't mention 3cush and straightrail)

Goto bed Ron, cocktail hour is over.

Cheery o
 
Did this guy actually just insinuate that I'm John Barton? If so, I'll bet ten grand on that too Ron.
 
Let's clear the air on one thing: English Eight Ball ain't that tough. Anyone who thinks it is, frankly, is an idiot.

Further, I haven't played on the Chinese tables but I'd say that's probably ultimate eight ball. The toughest cue game I've played to date has been Ten Ball on a 10x5. For me personally, it tops Snooker on a 12x6 just due to the complexity of rotation, call shot, and sidespin use while having such long potting. Lastly, where are the English Pyramid Champions on Ron's list? I haven't played that game but it looks tougher than all of the "pocket" billiard disciplines to me.
 
Ron Swanson said:
You done that yourself, quite admirably. But you've missed the point. There's barely a cue sport that brits haven't mastered, but the same cannot be said for any other nation. Why is that?
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Because the Brits are for all intents and purposes the only ones playing snooker extensively, because they don't dominate the other major cue and stick games (they certainly are not showing up over here and cleaning up at 14.1, one pocket, 9/10 ball, 3 cushion, etc.), and because other countries' participants focus on other activities to a much greater/proportionate extent. Looking at other hand-eye coordination activities that involve more extensive interest (golf and tennis come to mind), the Brits tend not to do even as well as the Australians, let alone Russia and a number of other European countries, And how do they do in other less popular hand-eye coordination activities such as ping pong?

I think you are fooling yourself in looking at a group of good, well-organized British professionals in a small pond (primarily snooker) and extrapolating that to dominance on an apples-to-apples comparison. The good snooker players are to be congratulated on their expertise but they don't dominate cue sports in any meaningful sense of the word outside Britain and the results of other hand-eye coordination activities suggest they would be in the lower echelons on a truly comparable, level playing field.
 
Ron Swanson said:
Anyone watching the snooker world championships, the only pro cue sport game there is, cannot fail to notice the greatest players are all british. Sure, robertson is incredible, but he flatters to deceive a bit and, besides, aussies are virtually british anyway. Ding looks the same as ever - a monster until he hits a brit. The chinese invasion has stalled. The euros consistently fall short. Corey deuell battles with 8 year olds.

The breakthrough player at this this year's championships was anthony mcgill, a scotsman. Even yesterday's nearly man, matthew stevens, showed moments of class, enough to make his welshness forgivable at any rate. The final 4 are all english. Murphy and trump are SHEER class, playing well beyond what mere pool players could ever dream of.

So why are the british the greatest cueists? What do they have that the rest of the world lacks?
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I wouldn't jump to conclusion so fast
The Aussie Lindrum beat the crap out of Joe Davis in English billiards years ago. That forced Davis to run with his tail between his legs to start pro snooker which was considered easier than English billiards.
So if we use Conan/ Jon Stewart logic of "Who made Huckabee", Lindrum made Joe Davis who made snooker so Lindrum made snooker so an Aussie not a Brit is the best in snooker
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I really can´t understand snooker players/followers around a world..
They get satisfaction to bash other games because they think snooker players are from another planet. every f*****n youtube video have some idiot commenting how pool/or any other billiard game is so easy and how snooker is mans game.
I like playing snooker too but i hate that how snooker players keep other cuesports players novice..
 
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