WRISTS - The "hidden power catalyst" of a great stroke or "just along for the ride"?

[dr_dave]

You are correct. Good job making me see the immaturity in my pointless reply. This is the type of thread that makes me embarrassed to be part of the pool world.

I usually do a better job at ignoring immaturity and petty insults, but I carelessly allowed myself to be dragged down into the muck. I will be more careful in the future.

"Learning From Mistakes" is the Teacher,
Dave

You aren't quite as funny as CJ but you are improving. LOL

APOLOGIZE, but before you finish the post, you make sure to get in one last NEEDLE for what you are apologizing for.

BAZINGA.

JoeyA

Joey,

FYI, it was not my intent to apologize in that older post you quoted. It was to acknowledge that I saw the error in my ways in participating in childish "interaction."

Later in the thread, I did apologize for any disrespect I may have showed to CJ (see below).

I hope CJ also learns from his recent experiences on AZB (in this and many other threads) where he is obviously being perceived negatively by a large number of people, and not just the people you have traditionally labelled to as "NaySayers" ... or is your "black list" getting much longer now?

Best regards,
Dave

Thanks PJ.

Concerning the content that was being discussed, I trust that people can judge for themselves whether or not the information on my follow-through resource page makes sense and is meaningful. I think the info on the page and via the supporting links helps clear up many common misconceptions concerning the stroke.

Regards,
Dave

PS to CJ: I sincerely apologize for showing any disrespect. You certainly deserve respect for the level of play you were able to achieve in the past. Some of us might disagree with some of the ideas you propose (and the way you present them), but we should do so in a respectful way. Peace!

 

[Mikjary]

A player can a have a good stroke from an appearance/mechanical standpoint, but still not have any stroke. Stop playing dumb you clown.

Let's see...new member, old agenda...hmmmmm? Keep up the name calling. It really helps these discussions.

Best,
Mike

 

[DTL]

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[CJ Wiley]

Let's see...new member, old agenda...hmmmmm? Keep up the name calling. It really helps these discussions.

Best,
Mike

The return of "OLE 9 BALLER" LoL!!! They never quit making them, do they Mike?

 

[Mikjary]

The return of "OLE 9 BALLER" LoL!!! They never quit making them, do they Mike?

Old NO Baller was a trip! I just got schooled on all these posts by my 26 year old son. He's a member, but refuses to post anymore.

He said that the guys 40 years and up are the "troll generation". They're basically unhappy and miserable in their lives. They've discovered an outlet in the internet forums and its anonymity.They think they can speak their minds and not have to pay a price for the outcome.

He also said, the younger guys grew up with the web and realize it's reality and not anonymous. It has real world repercussions. So, I guess I now know the answer to all this back and forth. I'll just have to pass.

Best,
Mike

 

[azhousepro]

In the interest of making warnings public, that's one.

Mike

A player can a have a good stroke from an appearance/mechanical standpoint, but still not have any stroke. Stop playing dumb you clown.

 

[CJ Wiley]

we can only see in others what we recognize about ourselves

Old NO Baller was a trip! I just got schooled on all these posts by my 26 year old son. He's a member, but refuses to post anymore.

He said that the guys 40 years and up are the "troll generation". They're basically unhappy and miserable in their lives. They've discovered an outlet in the internet forums and its anonymity.They think they can speak their minds and not have to pay a price for the outcome.

He also said, the younger guys grew up with the web and realize it's reality and not anonymous. It has real world repercussions. So, I guess I now know the answer to all this back and forth. I'll just have to pass.

Best,
Mike

Human nature is fascinating isn't it? I just wonder "how the heck did they get like that?"

Yes, I believe he's right on the money with that evaluation.....this generation you speak of has an inner situation that appears as fate... the inability to understand pool's deeper levels.

It's about projection, we can only see in others what we recognize about ourselves. Carl Jung was an expert on this subject and wrote several outstanding books on the subject. It usually stems from an internal fear of something that isn't actually true, that leads to judgments that are equally inaccurate.

How they attack others in the outside world is a representation of this phenomenon.

 

[JoeyA]

You sure have a peculiar way of apologizing.

I don't have a black list Dave and I don't have anyone on ignore. Lol

And you haven't been a Naysayer for quite some time; at least I haven't noticed you being one recently, other than trying to shadow box with CJ. I just thought it was funny the way you wrote that post.

I don't think CJ has a large number of negative people following him around. He does have a lot of admirers but so do you. Hell I admire the both of you in your own respective ways.

We're all good.

Best to you.

Joey,

FYI, it was not my intent to apologize in that older post you quoted. It was to acknowledge that I saw the error in my ways in participating in childish "interaction."

Later in the thread, I did apologize for any disrespect I may have showed to CJ (see below).

I hope CJ also learns from his recent experiences on AZB (in this and many other threads) where he is obviously being perceived negatively by a large number of people, and not just the people you have traditionally labelled to as "NaySayers" ... or is your "black list" getting much longer now?

Best regards,
Dave

 

[CJ Wiley]

I was going to make a "Mr Hyde" joke, although it may be too soon.

I don't have a black list Dave and I don't have anyone on ignore. Lol

And you haven't been a Naysayer for quite some time; at least I haven't noticed you being one recently, other than trying to shadow box with CJ. I just thought it was funny the way you wrote that post.

I don't think CJ has a large number of negative people following him around. He does have a lot of admirers but so do you. Hell I admire the both of you in your own respective ways.

We're all good.

Best to you.

Dr. Dave is a funny how he communicated that post - I was going to make a "Mr Hyde" joke, although it may be too soon. Of course this is all in good fun and humor is always the best medicine for what ails us in life, the game, or other "inner battles".

 

[lfigueroa]

Dr. Dave is a funny how he communicated that post - I was going to make a "Mr Hyde" joke, although it may be too soon. Of course this is all in good fun and humor is always the best medicine for what ails us in life, the game, or other "inner battles".

A little passive aggressive?

Lou Figueroa

 

[Timothy Rose]

A little passive aggressive?

Lou Figueroa

what are you on a trolling spree tonite..... trolled three CJ threads in a matter of 5 minutes lol

 

[CJ Wiley]

Internet Trolling - it's creeeeepy!!!

what are you on a trolling spree tonite..... trolled three CJ threads in a matter of 5 minutes lol

He takes his "CJ Stalking" seriously.....it's creeeeepy!!!!

 

[SJDinPHX]

He takes his "CJ Stalking" seriously.....it's creeeeepy!!!!

It is not surprising, that what you and Mr. Rose perceive as 'stalking', are actually very intelligent observations !..Theres really not all that many "CJ Stalker's and Haters", but there are a tons of people who are tired of trying to make ANY sense of your repetitious posts !..:sorry:..I know of people who are contemplating suicide, if they have to read "the Game is your Teacher" one more time!..Its unavoidable, you permeate EVERY thread, with your dozens of posts !

You would both be much better off, if you would drop your feeble attempts at humor, and concentrate on your command of the English language ! (and maybe your spelling too)..This accounts for a huge percent of the people who think you guys are NOT playing with a 'full deck' !

PS..Talk about 'creepy'..Your irrelevant, non-sensical cartoon choices, also need a LOT of work!

 

[cfrandy]

what are you on a trolling spree tonite..... trolled three CJ threads in a matter of 5 minutes lol

Lou is a hater and has nothing better to do with his life but stalk those he hates!

 

[cfrandy]

Rip sjd!

[SIZE=""]It is not surprising, that what you and Mr. Rose perceive as 'stalking', are actually very intelligent observations !..Theres really not all that many "CJ Stalker's and Haters", but there are a tons of people who are tired of trying to make ANY sense of your repetitious posts !..:sorry:..I know of people who are contemplating suicide, if they have to read "the Game is your Teacher" one more time!..Its unavoidable, you permeate EVERY thread, with your dozens of posts !

You would both be much better off, if you would drop your feeble attempts at humor, and concentrate on your command of the English language ! (and maybe your spelling too)..This accounts for a huge percent of the people who think you guys are NOT playing with a 'full deck' !

PS..Talk about 'creepy'..Your irrelevant, non-sensical cartoon choices, also need a LOT of work! [/SIZE]

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[lfigueroa]

Lou is a hater and has nothing better to do with his life but stalk those he hates!

I don't hate anyone here. Not even you

Lou Figueroa

 

[Sloppy Pockets]

I don't hate anyone here. Not even you

Lou Figueroa

Lou, I think he means what the kiddies mean when they use the term "hater" on the Interwebs. You know, like when someone says something that you don't agree with and you dare to voice a contrary opinion about it? Well, the kiddies might call you a hater for that.

Sloppy Pockets... not a hater. Feeling the love for everybody, but not agreeing with any of the tripe being served as prime rib on this thread.

 

[Sloppy Pockets]

I know of people who are contemplating suicide, if they have to read "the Game is your Teacher" one more time!

We are beaten. It is useless to resist. Either we are forced to drink the Kool-Aid as followers of the cult, or we must drink it by choice just to get away from the horror.

 

[Drop The Rock]

Like the other thousand techniques out there, TOI can work for some people. That being said it doesn't work for me. Now in regards to Mr. Wiley directly...

I do not care at all for the ("constant") buzz word/phrases in his posts or the constant use of "quotations" in most of his posts. Not only is this practice sorely and blatantly incorrect from a grammatical standpoint, its also annoying. Replying to the "haters" with "sarcasm" to prove a "point," does not make you sound like a patient teacher at all. It makes you sound like a politician.

CJ, your ego is so big that much like a planet attracts meteors and asteroids, you attract "haters". The moon is tired of fighting with your head over who controls the tides.

Most of the professionals in the billiard industry are very objective on this forum. OB for example, has impressed me with their efforts to support customers and inform rather than promote themselves blatantly. John Barton may make great cases, but his conduct, attitude, and ego made him lose the respect and gain a lot of "haters." Your system may be great for some, but I wouldn't book you for a lesson in a million years. Its funny how the respectable teachers of the game like Mark Wilson, Dr. Dave, Stan Shuffett, and others don't swim in this controversy that you do.

You patronize a forum member with a 'lets play and stream it' move as a way to discredit him when he in fact may have a fair amount of technical knowledge. The lack of maturity amazes me. Also most true experts, never call seem to call themselves experts and the approach the game with humility. Remeber CJ, the game is the teacher, not you.

Next we have stories. Well here is one.

A player in his mid-late 20s is in a major city in Texas. The break-pots are high. $500+ a ball and up all over the place! This player might not have the best cue ball control but he shoots straight as hell and has a lot of heart and gamble. Our guy enters a pool hall, where everybody is buying tickets. Thousands of them. Next thing you know, a man with some dough gets the winning ticket number. He puts CJ on the table. Cj breaks em hard, the rack explodes and the layout is easy. The pot is over $10,000, so do the math on 10 ball. Knowing this, all CJ has to do is runout and he is almost straight in on the 1 ball and its 3 ft. away. CJ dogs his brains out and the pot is safe. Meanwhile, our guy who doesn't have ESPN World Champion on display like a peacock with his feathers, goes around town and snaps a bunch of break-pots off. Making thousands.

The moral of the story is that no matter what "system" you use, the game takes heart and no matter how much of "champion" you think you are, you probably aren't the demigod of pool your ego tells you that you are.

CJ you may have the ability of a professional, the know how of a marketing guru and the aptitude to develop decent system, but you sir have no class. The main forum is becoming about you more than pool and its disgusting.

Come on down to the Big Tyme Classic at the end of the month and give us an expo! I'm sure a champion like you can play Kevin Cheng 10 ball on table 4. Hell maybe you can get into some one pocket action while you are here in Houston and you can TOI your way to 8 and out every game!

So go ahead and say "heads" as a way to derail a conversation!

P.S. If my conduct is admonished that does not mean I have "haters." It means there is something wrong with my conduct.

TO THE MODS.

Why are you letting this man run amuck around this forum. He is doing the equivalent of bumping threads in the wanted/for sale section. Maybe he can be given his own main section? I was given a warning for pointing out the fact that he was playing dumb in response to something Dr. Dave said and I used the word clown. I did not use any profanity and I'm sure worse has been said. I'm sure the old ESPN Champ feels like a king here. JB 2.0 in the house.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

TO THE MODS.

Why are you letting this man run amuck around this forum. He is doing the equivalent of bumping threads in the wanted/for sale section.

A question worth repeating...

Do the mods not recognize advertising when they see it, or do "celebrities" get an automatic pass to peddle their junk nonstop on the main forum?

Maybe they're charmed blind by the cute pictures?

pj
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