Finnegan is a crook and a scumbag.
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Good try Mikey
i run tourneys and have made enemies simply from communication issues that get blown out of proportion. There are nights when I'm not at my best and my explainations are more difficult to understand, I also have people who come in with perceptions that can't be changed. Not a big fan of Finn especially after the fouling incident, but understand how things like this happen. Try and sit down quietly and resolve things in a polite tone take the time to listen. TD's put up with all kinds of personalities which lends itself to treating everyone the same ( which sounds way easier than it is) or taking the time to converse w each person in a manner they think the player will understand (exhausting). Mikey did a great job of explaining what he investigated to have happened. Then all the comediennes have to chirp! Sorry Nuts felt robbed ( now that's funny!) see what I mean, needless commentary. But I think if he had tried to get an explanation in a polite manner this would've been avoided. We all get tired, hungry, sleepy whatever that makes us impatient and sometimes rude. Mikey did a great job here, now make your way up the list! I would hate to see how me and my players would come off on a national show! Oh lord the skeletons would come from everywhere, good luck to all!
i run tourneys and have made enemies simply from communication issues that get blown out of proportion. There are nights when I'm not at my best and my explainations are more difficult to understand, I also have people who come in with perceptions that can't be changed. Not a big fan of Finn especially after the fouling incident, but understand how things like this happen. Try and sit down quietly and resolve things in a polite tone take the time to listen. TD's put up with all kinds of personalities which lends itself to treating everyone the same ( which sounds way easier than it is) or taking the time to converse w each person in a manner they think the player will understand (exhausting). Mikey did a great job of explaining what he investigated to have happened. Then all the comediennes have to chirp! Sorry Nuts felt robbed ( now that's funny!) see what I mean, needless commentary. But I think if he had tried to get an explanation in a polite manner this would've been avoided. We all get tired, hungry, sleepy whatever that makes us impatient and sometimes rude. Mikey did a great job here, now make your way up the list! I would hate to see how me and my players would come off on a national show! Oh lord the skeletons would come from everywhere, good luck to all!
TO's have a tough job. They have to know the speed of all the players in the area, and that could be hundreds in a well populated area, in order to handicap properly in tournaments that require handicapping. I have seen TO's blow up because of the stupid questions asked of them when they were working on brackets in large tournaments. You guys do a great job. I know it isn't easy.
Lists? Where we are going we don't need lists! Thanks for the love though, I might have to get a coach and a therapist to get out of my head so I can lay the smack down on someone hahaha.
I am just reminded of the Bronx Tale scene when C is chasing down the kid that's ducking him for $20. This 5 pages or so is about 20 bucks. If I was in OP's shoes this thread wouldn't have been worth the 20.
Not to justify or attest to anybody's actions because I don't know the man, but hasn't the mantra of poolrooms been to take money from the outsiders since basically....forever? Does a story like this...if it happened that way...seriously surprise anyone who's grown up in the game?
Sorry it happened to you though.
One person says 15 balls were racked and the other says it was definitely only 10. Which is it? If it's the latter, then I understand the frustration (though the spewing is a bit much). If it's the former, then shame on him for not understanding the rules. Having said that, I have never seen extra balls racked in a break and run. If people keep running out, then I can see it.
Personally, I wouldn't put $1 in a raffle like that. First I have to get lucky enough to be picked, then if i actually make a ball, i have only a 2/3 chance that it counts. I'd rather flip a coin for the money. (Finnegan, I am talking to you)
Personally, I wouldn't put $1 in a raffle like that. First I have to get lucky enough to be picked, then if i actually make a ball, i have only a 2/3 chance that it counts. I'd rather flip a coin for the money. (Finnegan, I am talking to you)
The Original Poster said there were 10 balls racked.
Others have come and said that the way they do it now, is that 15 balls are racked, and the 11-15 don't count as a ball pocketed.
No one to my knowledge has said they were there that night and how many balls were racked THAT NIGHT cept for the OP.
It has been something like a year, and the original poster said they haven't had a break and run since.
As to what that means, could mean that they stopped them altogether, or it could mean that they stopped racking 10 balls, and switched it to 15 so it became harder to break and run out.
Either way OP (the only one who we know was there that night) said it was 10 balls racked.
Well spoken!
A shitty sounding deal all the way
* wish I had started this crap earlier *
Some of us, myself included, took the OP's original post at face value, which lead us to believe the event was a "10- ball break and run", which later information indicated it was not. According to a later reply by MikeyFrost, it was a contest starting with a rack of 15 balls, but only 10 of the balls counted to advance the break and run. Those rules were designed to make the B&R more difficult to achieve, therefore the pot would be more likely to roll over each week, and grow larger over time.
This was different from "10-ball break and run", which anyone would take to mean racking 10 balls, every ball counts, with the winner a shooter who makes any ball on the break and runs the rest in rotation through the 10 ball.
I think that the OP never had a good look at the rules in place at the time he bought tickets. IMHO that fault has to be shared between the OP and the event organizers. It is easy enough to make a poster and/or sign-up sheet at the ticket table, with the entrants showing they have read and understand the event rules, just like most normal contests that have a big money prize.
The OP is well known for fair dealing, and for him to still be hot over this a year later leads me to believe he did not get good information at the time he bought his event tickets. Nevertheless, the organizers had their rules in place, and those rules prevailed, so mostly no foul by the organizers, other than possibly lack of clear communication to all entrants.
It is easy for local regulars to know local contest rules and for outsiders not to know them. It is kinda like old barbox 8 ball rules before the days of BCA leagues, when whatever rules the locals used were the 'real' rules, despite there being no written rules anywhere. Anyone ever slightly caromed in a ball and had your opponent cry foul because 'you didn't call the combination." Ahh, the good old days when local rules were written in stone, but no one knew where the rock was stashed.
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Maybe the op was the only one to buy "tickets". That old dirty bastard pocketed yyour money!
Texdance: Only 10 balls were racked for the 10-ball break-and-run pot that night, please see point#6 in post# 156 for confirmation. 10-balls were racked, not 15.
I'm not sure why many people are overlooking the statement where the OP says only 10 balls were racked and not 15 balls on that night.
There is the problem then because from my understanding it is the 11 through 15 only that count on the break. If your gonna play know the rules imo.
I bet next time he will specify that he would like the money balls racked too.
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Because there is contradictory info about that in the thread?
Below is the quoted posts by Mike Frost. It states all 15 balls are racked and the 11-15 balls count the same as a dry break Only the 1-10 count on the break.
Unless we are saying the OP is completely lying when he firmly states that on this particular night only 10 balls were racked and not the supposed 15 Balls, the OP got screwed. It doesn't matter what the house rules are with the so called 15 ball rack on a 10 Ball break and run pot since they were not playing this particular pot this way.