Best "Affordable" 4th Axis
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thank you George, thats exactly what i was looking for....your admittance to a childish cheapshot.
The fact is, that its irrelevant when comparing it "Clearpaths resistance to trash" to anything leadshine because they have there own issues that surely your aware but are blinded by.
1) most leadshines would require a competent person to solder and implement an IP rated socket for power connectors at the motor connection end. The fact is, those capable of such arent buying Leadshine.
2) Easy servos encoder cables are on the motor end "8-10 inches away from the motor" are outfitted with the cheapest db9 backshell known to man. Not even remotely splash proof or hardly mist proof.
Don't even get me started on the actual physical quality of the drive itself.
The fact is, that its irrelevant when comparing it "Clearpaths resistance to trash" to anything leadshine because they have there own issues that surely your aware but are blinded by.
1) most leadshines would require a competent person to solder and implement an IP rated socket for power connectors at the motor connection end. The fact is, those capable of such arent buying Leadshine.
2) Easy servos encoder cables are on the motor end "8-10 inches away from the motor" are outfitted with the cheapest db9 backshell known to man. Not even remotely splash proof or hardly mist proof.
Don't even get me started on the actual physical quality of the drive itself.
Encoder cable lol now i have to say that is funny.
But don't the person that wants to by them have a choice if they want them or not?
Stop aiming at Leadshine, Show what Clearpath can do , not try and say what other one cant?
Why would clearpath choose to say stepper killer? why would it choose to boost about completely different technology .
If they as good as you say, why not hit the giants in the motor company's?
AC / BLDC servos from Mitsubishi or Yaskawa or even oriental motors OR any other one?
Does it matter that Clearpath motors are not IP rated?
George, i'm making a comparison based on your rediculous topic of IP rating.
Im not the one coming up with stuff out of mid air. I'm just one of the guys busting your ass everytime you do.
Please stop referring to the giants....they have no relevance what so ever as you dont provide a machine with them and nobody on this forum other than you is touting them.
Now THAT right there is funny, Miss Geo - you're a funny, funny gal. The bulk of the "gibberish" in this thread has originated from you - a peddler who seems FAR more interested in hawking your own imported products than in discussing known, factual information.
I am aware that "most machines coming into North America" are poorly designed and cheaply made. That doesn't mean your inferior ballscrew securing method is "correct". All that means is the engineering decisions are made on a basis of cost - and PROFIT - rather than sound engineering.
We can walk into any Walmart, Home Depot, or Lowe's in the US and compare the imported foreign products to the American made products they are copied from - virtually all are poorly made (by comparison) and many will not even perform the tasks for which they were intended. Just this summer I bought a large stainless steel eye-bolt at Home Depot for use on my boat lift. The hanger card described it as a "6-inch Eye Bolt". When I got back to our lake place I discovered that no part of this eye bolt even came close to measuring 6 inches - it was just under 5 inches in total length. And this is just one of a thousand examples I could give of crappy imported products like that.
So when you measure your engineering standards by "most machines brought into North America" that is hardly reassuring - and it is CERTAINLY not proof that such a design is "good"... only that it is cheap.
TW
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It matters exactly as much as if George was complaining that Clearpath motors are "not painted red", and claiming that was somehow a safety issue.
TW
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George
Forgive me if I have not answered your question. To be honest, I do not recall you asking one. I'm sure that I've just missed it, so please, restate your question and I will provide an answer.
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If that ridiculous that's not a problem? that's truly up to you to decide .
Just post the bonus of the Clearpath and just let the people decide what they want to use.
Sir Wayne .Again , i have not had a single one move, 4500 and not one in 8 year .The minute i would ever have had a problem i would change it. like everything, once a problem or something better it is changed
What i don't understand, i never say anything when your telling people about your motor choice.
When i say what i think is my choice, its like all hell breaks loose.
Stick to what is good about them and let people know , and not what you think is not good about another persons choice.
Then there would be no wasted talk back and forth
When i say what i think is my choice, its like all hell breaks loose.
Stick to what is good about them and let people know , and not what you think is not good about another persons choice.
Then there would be no wasted talk back and forth
I think we tried that...you know, before anybody ever even brought up leadshine people were speaking highly of the Clearpath. Then you continually pull irrelevant hogwash out of mid air to try to defeat any compliments.
am i delusional? or is that not exactly how its gone
I think you said something pretty much everytime someone had a choice other than yours
No, no, Miss Geo - I understand completely. Your engineering designs and decisions are based on "good enough". Thank you for making that clear.
TW
No Problem Sir Wayne
I don't think so.
But just post the bonus of having your motor choice , that's all .
Just inform the people of why its a great choice for them
Don't worry about if a person going to look at Leadshine.
IF your using Clearpath and it make my machine look better that is a bonus for me
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Like this is truly without a doubt a amazing and professional video , using Clearpath. I don't have a single problem with it. So i don't know what the problem is if a person does not have the money for them.
Is it not better to get a good system for a lot less money? Them make money with machine and if need get machine to pay for a different motor kit if the person needs it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctGWgUekxWA&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXO-CikqcU0
Is it not better to get a good system for a lot less money? Them make money with machine and if need get machine to pay for a different motor kit if the person needs it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctGWgUekxWA&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXO-CikqcU0
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It Is Unwise To Pay Too Much, But Worse To Pay Too Little
“It is unwise to pay too much, but it is unwise to pay too little.
When you pay too much, you lose a little money; that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything.
Because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing you bought it to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot.
It cannot be done.
If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better.
There is hardly anything in the world that someone can’t make a little worse and sell a little cheaper – and people who consider price alone are this man’s lawful prey”.
– John Ruskin 1819-1900
Just to be clear TW, what does spending more for a Clearpath driven system over Leadshine get you?
Thanks.
I sure hope DZ made the right decision.
Frankly, I'm not convinced you do spend more. Miss Geo wants to compare Leadshine motors directly to Clearpath motors, but with Clearpath you need only a single power supply (as little as $35, depending on the size of your motors and what you want to do with them) and a breakout board (I've got a couple of nice little machines running on a modified $14 board (!)). Meanwhile, the Leadshine motors require separate drivers and other control hardware that I think Miss Geo is conveniently not adding in when making the $$ comparison.
But regardless of relative price, I am so thoroughly UNimpressed with Miss Geo that I would automatically reject any recommendation from that camp, just on general principles.
TW
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