Great work, it's very much appreciated, maybe one day I can have all your DVD's 
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Video Encyclopedia of Eight Ball (VEEB) example clips
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If your core goal like mentioned is league players, then you have to ditch the 8ft table.
Ron Swanson
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Awww...:wub:
I'm surprised you didn't mention "Brokeback Mountain" again (was that you?).
Catch you later,
Dave
That's a good point. If our goal was to reach just league players, we probably should have filmed everything on both Valley and Diamond bar boxes and pointed out the differences among tables and conditions. We do mention how table size, pocket tightness, and conditions affect various shots and strategies throughout the series (where these things are important for a particular shot); however, most of the stuff we present applies equally to all table sizes and conditions.
Thanks for the input,
Dave
I know that my entire collection (TIPOPAB, VEPS, VEPP, VEEB, HAPS, BU, TRCD) is too costly for most people to consider, but I do offer individual DVDs from all of my series for sale at an affordable price (unlike with most packaged-series products on the market). Hint .... Hint ... Hint. :grin-square:Great work, it's very much appreciated, maybe one day I can have all your DVD's
Catch you later,
Dave
Ignore the haters, Dave. They're just jealous they don't have a macho love like ours.
xoxo,
pj
chgo
Great to see this announcement! Looking forward to learning more about 8-ball with these videos.
Jeremiah,
I think you probably know enough about 8-ball already, but thanks for the comment.
Catch you later,
Dave
Anybody else watch the videos and have any opinions or feedback to share? For example, which clip do you think is the best (most useful to most players) or worst (least useful)?
Thanks,
Dave
Thanks,
Dave
Ron Swanson
Banned
Having not met or seen you before, I've always imagined you as a cranky old man when I read your posts and see your user name. Now I visualize you as a juvenille teenager always at the computer (which has a quite sticky keyboard).Hell yeah. Need some vaseline?
I think I like PJ better than you, but in a manly sort of way.
Catch you later,
Dave
4, 7 and 8 are good...
7 in particular, because it's important to " think thru" all your options at a critical point we have seen and experienced, where it's easy to give up the game with a simple mistake.
Based only on what was useful to ME, NV G.4 (drag to enhance spin) was most useful (because if I ever consciously knew this I had forgetten it) and NV G.8 (end game tied up) was least useful (because I knew most of this already, not because it wasn't good information).
I think all of the information is useful - and what is "most" or "least" useful depends on the specific knowledge of the user.
Gideon
Well stated. I agree. 8-ball can definitely be a thinking-man's game.
Catch you later,
Dave
From the couple of clips, it looks like you've done a good job with strategy - safeties, pocket blockers, key balls, in your clips - which is so important in 8-ball, but so difficult to convey. It's easier to show a shot technique, where you can go to the table and try the 3-rail kick and see if it works, but it's more difficult with strategy. I have a couple of books that focus on strategy, and I look at them and they seem to make sense, but I never feel that I take anything away that can be applied. Even if you can distill a principle like "play into the line," what's hard is seeing the variety of ways it comes up, and knowing when it's possible or not.
I think you guys did a good job from what I saw, but I wonder if you could talk about how you approach teaching the strategy of 8-ball. Choosing the right patterns and key balls are so important, but so difficult to learn from books and videos, in my experience.
I think you guys did a good job from what I saw, but I wonder if you could talk about how you approach teaching the strategy of 8-ball. Choosing the right patterns and key balls are so important, but so difficult to learn from books and videos, in my experience.
Sight unseen, I'll be saving up to buy the set.
I'll check out the samples this weekend and try to provide some feedback.
Thanks Dr Dave and Bob!
I'll check out the samples this weekend and try to provide some feedback.
Thanks Dr Dave and Bob!
The entire first DVD is dedicated to game strategy:
- post-break analysis
- opening-shot options
- choosing key balls
- position-play planning
- solving problems
- and important safety and two-way shot options
Honestly, I think our coverage and examples are as good or better than anything else I've seen to date in book or video.
We also cover strategy in detail when illustrating and talking through the 20 run-outs and critical-shot examples on Disc V.
And things like "leaving angles" and "coming into the line of the shot" and "staying on the correct side of the ball" and "going to and through the center of the table" are reinforced throughout the entire series.
Thank you for your input and question,
Dave
PS: For those interested, here's the detailed outline for the entire VEEB series. It includes timestamp info so one can see how much time is spent on each topic.
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