Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

  • I always go by feel

    Votes: 153 53.5%
  • Usually by feel, with aiming systems for hard shots

    Votes: 68 23.8%
  • Usually with aiming systems, by feel for easy shots

    Votes: 24 8.4%
  • I always use aiming systems

    Votes: 26 9.1%
  • I just hit balls very hard and hope they sink

    Votes: 15 5.2%

  • Total voters
    286
It's an aiming thread. Anything can happen in an aiming thread. If I ever click on an aiming thread again will someone just shoot me in the head?
Better hope they don't have accurate sights.

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I have it all on a thumb drive. I was thinking of hiring someone to edit it down to a half hour highlight reel :-)

Lou Figueroa
I am sure you could a lot of comedy out of my play that day. I watched a couple hours last night and I want to play you again and bet $100,000 or more. I was off the air and yet I had you beat almost every game despite selling out to you two and three times a game.



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Angling the cue...

CTE encourages you to angle your cue this way and that.

That's all I ever needed to know about the system to reject it.

Of course many of us "angle our cues". The difference is -- Stan's system encourages this angling while many of us strive to eliminate it.
When the cue is on the shot line all you have to do is deliver the tip in a straight line. What good is thinking your cue is straight when your aim is wrong?

It's no different than perfectly placing your ladder on the wrong wall.

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RJ,

Saying something does not work for the reason that is asserted that it works is not saying that it does not work.

Well, Like Bill Clinton once said, 'That depends on what the definition of IT is.'. If IT is not working for the reason that is asserted that IT does, is IT really IT? :wink:

Best Wishes.
Of course when you assert that something does not work because of it, yet you cannot show it, find it, touch it, demonstrate it or film it then perhaps you should stop talking about it.

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I am willing to bet you a few hundred that you angle your cue when are playing. A camera can be set up in your room and you simply play some 14.1 for 60 maybe 90 minutes.

If you do not want to bet. I will pay you $100 to film you for 90 minutes. There is no doubt in my mind that you angle your cue.......I have seen you do it. It is the nature of our game. It is the nature of CTE.

I will be in your area tomorrow.

Stan


No need, Stan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRNPz_CEszE

Can I email you my PayPal account #?

Lou Figueroa
 
Lou,

I'll just say this.

IF, IF, IF Please note the word IF, IF Mr. Houle did put out what he knew to be false info or theory, even to a single individual, then the man is not one to be honored in any way.

The CTE proponents can't have it both ways as they so often seem to want it.

If he punked anyone then maybe he punked everyone & they just don't know it.

Best Wishes.

PS to EVERYONE: Please note the word IF.


I believe the punked story is just a smoke screen being put out by some nowadays for some very questionable systems he was promoting. I believe Hal was totally sincere in what he believed.

Lou Figueroa
 
I am sure you could a lot of comedy out of my play that day. I watched a couple hours last night and I want to play you again and bet $100,000 or more. I was off the air and yet I had you beat almost every game despite selling out to you two and three times a game.



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Sure you do. Are you going to cover ail rail bets too?

Lou Figueroa
 
Of course when you assert that something does not work because of it, yet you cannot show it, find it, touch it, demonstrate it or film it then perhaps you should stop talking about it.

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John,

If the abstract assertion is not proven in the manner that an abstract should be by those making it, then perhaps those that are making it should stop making it & also stop trying to defend it in manners that are inappropriate for an abstract.

Best Wishes.

PS

ab·stract
adjective
abˈstrakt,ˈabˌstrakt/
1.
existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence.
"abstract concepts such as love or beauty"
synonyms: theoretical, conceptual, notional, intellectual, metaphysical, ideal, philosophical, academic; rareideational
"abstract concepts"
 
No need, Stan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRNPz_CEszE

Can I email you my PayPal account #?

Lou Figueroa

I was right! You do angle your cue. Your vision drives your cue angling. Your cue is likely across your vision ever so slightly, a characteristic of solid players........congrats, you are CTE user and you do not even know it........well, you are not alone.....most all good players do not realize it....
Just like Hal eluded to the idea that top players use CTE.....you are using CTE subconsciously on some shots and I could lesson you right through it.......so you would understand the nature of it......
Anyway, good shooting!
Stan Shuffett
 
I believe the punked story is just a smoke screen being put out by some nowadays for some very questionable systems he was promoting. I believe Hal was totally sincere in what he believed.

Lou Figueroa

Lou,

Hence my very definitive & declared use of the word IF.

Some want to have things both ways & do not see or realize what that says when one sees through that kind of fallacy.

My post was in no way Targeting Hal with any disparagement. I was merely making a point.

Best 2 Ya.
 
When the cue is on the shot line all you have to do is deliver the tip in a straight line. What good is thinking your cue is straight when your aim is wrong?

It's no different than perfectly placing your ladder on the wrong wall.

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I think this post perfectly illustrates the difference between those that focus on aiming over those that focus on cueing. Of course they are both important but the aiming gurus take the importance of aiming to a whole nother' level.

I think one of the best things that someone can do to work on their aim is to force themselves to lock their alignment in place and focus on cueing straight at all costs. So when you get down on the ball and you're locked in but yet you can tell that you are offline just a bit -- still just cue straight and watch the ball hit the rail.

If you do this your aim will continue to improve. Only a fool would continue to purposely put their ladder on the wrong wall.

BUT anyone that employs a technique that has them approaching the shot line from all different angles will have a much harder time determining when they are REALLY locked in because they don't have ONE and only ONE set alignment. These guys are like those that can't quite get their ladder firmly planted on the ground so it rocks back and forth but they decide to climb up anyway.

So in answer to the question "What good is thinking your cue is straight when your aim is wrong?" if you know your cue is pretty straight you can more easily troubleshoot your misses. If I approach the shot the same way every single time and deliver my cue the same way every single time then when I miss I will KNOW it was an aiming error or a under/over estimation of squirt/swerve. For those of you that approach the shot from all these different angles (including Stan, who I've watched do this very thing on video) I have NO idea how you would ever know why you miss.

This is why there are those that think this whole way of aiming could cause a lot of frustration for players.
 
I was right! You do angle your cue. Your vision drives your cue angling. Your cue is likely across your vision ever so slightly, a characteristic of solid players........congrats, you are CTE user and you do not even know it........well, you are not alone.....most all good players do not realize it....
Just like Hal eluded to the idea that top players use CTE.....you are using CTE subconsciously on some shots and I could lesson you right through it.......so you would understand the nature of it......
Anyway, good shooting!
Stan Shuffett

Lou,

There is only one true way to tell.

If your aim dont work on a triangle table... you might be a cte'er
 

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Lou,

There is only one true way to tell.

If your aim don't work on a triangle table... you might be a cte'er

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I think that might be neat if the rails were more in length like a long rail.

Maybe that is what the game needs to get some traction. Go off traditional & then bring it back Home.

Best 2 Ya.
 
If I give a CTE user the same shot he might miss it by a little the first time but by the fifth try at most he will own that shot forever. A month later the CTE user is likely to NAIL the shot first try and nail it every time thereafter.

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So, it could also be stated that someone that angles their cue is using feel.

You can know what is going on in a person mind as they shoot. You can not know from just observing the thought process of the person.

The angle of the cue could be just getting into position and has nothing to with where to put the CB.

Implying that just because someone angles their cue is using CTE is just bullshit.

Does not true CTE require the use of CTE visuals and if those visuals are not used in aiming than CTE was not used.

My watching people play, I could state they all use ghost ball.......which ain't far from the truth......just because they get into position to shoot as I do.
 
I am sure you could a lot of comedy out of my play that day. I watched a couple hours last night and I want to play you again and bet $100,000 or more. I was off the air and yet I had you beat almost every game despite selling out to you two and three times a game.



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You by far are the biggest sore loser I have ever seen

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I think this post perfectly illustrates the difference between those that focus on aiming over those that focus on cueing. Of course they are both important but the aiming gurus take the importance of aiming to a whole nother' level.

I think one of the best things that someone can do to work on their aim is to force themselves to lock their alignment in place and focus on cueing straight at all costs. So when you get down on the ball and you're locked in but yet you can tell that you are offline just a bit -- still just cue straight and watch the ball hit the rail.

If you do this your aim will continue to improve. Only a fool would continue to purposely put their ladder on the wrong wall.

BUT anyone that employs a technique that has them approaching the shot line from all different angles will have a much harder time determining when they are REALLY locked in because they don't have ONE and only ONE set alignment. These guys are like those that can't quite get their ladder firmly planted on the ground so it rocks back and forth but they decide to climb up anyway.

So in answer to the question "What good is thinking your cue is straight when your aim is wrong?" if you know your cue is pretty straight you can more easily troubleshoot your misses. If I approach the shot the same way every single time and deliver my cue the same way every single time then when I miss I will KNOW it was an aiming error or a under/over estimation of squirt/swerve. For those of you that approach the shot from all these different angles (including Stan, who I've watched do this very thing on video) I have NO idea how you would ever know why you miss.

This is why there are those that think this whole way of aiming could cause a lot of frustration for players.
You have it all wrong. First I don't approach the shot from "all different angles". I use the center to edge line to orient myself to the cue ball. No matter what shot I am looking at this simple task puts me and my cue within less than a mm's distance or about this ll from the actual shot line. That's a fact.

Secondly once my body is in that space I look for a second line to orient to. This causes a teeny shift in body position and then I can go into shooting position.

In shooting position I just focus on cue delivery and my stroke can be laser straight when I really am concentrating.

So really you have maligned CTE into something it is not. Look at Stan, Landon and Gerry. Show us that they don't stroke straight.

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You by far are the biggest sore loser I have ever seen

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I know the difference between getting beat & losing.

Even when I lose, I compliment my opponent for THEIR play.

When I WIN, I do the same.

Jack Nicklaus is said to be one of the most gracious of Golfers when he did not WIN.

Some understand & some don't.
 
Lou,

There is only one true way to tell.

If your aim dont work on a triangle table... you might be a cte'er
That's funny. Thing is a CTE user can always revert all the back to pure feel if needed.

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