Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

[stan shuffett]

Stan,
Who are qualified to teach it ?
Have you seen anyone MISREPRESENT IT ?
When is the book coming out ?

Great questions!

CTE has been a near ten year study for me. My toughest part, looking back on my work was recognizing the end of CTE when I got to its finality. I thought I was there on more than one occasion. Having said that, the visuals and foundational pivot is in place. But I never stopped.....I have kept on, turning over every stone.

I have always been ahead on the info curve for CTE PRO ONE.

There are 4 others that I have endorsed as teachers of CTE but that does not mean that their pknowledge is always on absolute par with mine.... I am constantly updating those that I have endorsed.

My greatest fortune at this point is that I know where the end for CTE resides.

Is CTE always taught perfectly, no, AND I HAVE NOT ALWAYS TAUGHT IT PERFECTLY EITHER.....but my heart is in the right place....and the optimal body of CTE knowledge is emerging for instructional purposes.

Every card that I have will be played out in my book and likely on YouTube as well.

Book will be out in 2016.

Stan Shuffett

 

[BRussell]

I want to chime in as another person who, seeing how confident and strong the opinions of the supporters were, thought there might be something to it. I spent $45 on the DVD, and came to the conclusion that there was no there there. But you know what? I bought it. Maybe that's all that matters.

 

[BasementDweller]

English -- We really don't need to know which posts you agree with. I know I'm not keeping score at home and I don't suspect anyone else is so we could probably fo without all of your thumbs-up posts.

Can you imagine what all threads would look like if we followed your example?

 

[Spimp13]

English -- We really don't need to know which posts you agree with. I know I'm not keeping score at home and I don't suspect anyone else is so we could probably fo without all of your thumbs-up posts.

Can you imagine what all threads would look like if we followed your example?

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Too soon??

Carry on ladies and gents with the arguing...

 

[Pidge]

Why would anyone buy any aiming system? Because they want to improve that's why! And some of us put a great deal of work in, to achieve just that. We are not all D players who can't run 3 balls, you know.. A large part of Stans and Hals claims were that pros were secretly or unknowingly using CTE... Of course it's silly to buy stuff based on the claims in the commercial, but for a long time prior to myself buying CTE DVD 1, the forum had been SPAMMED by shills and fanboys about how wonderful CTE was and how it was going to change your game. Then some of us decided, hey lets check it out, I might be missing out here. Maybe I can move up my skill just one ball, even half a ball...I tried and tested it EXTENSIVELY, and guess what, there were problems with it. The improvement did happen, but only after ditching aiming systems.

Should all the unsatisfied customers now shut up and bow our heads in shame? NO, because being bullied into silence is not the right way to deal with stuff like this. A friend of mine bought a vacuum cleaner off the tv that looked like some sort of alien tehcnology and promised to be the greatest vacuum cleaner ever. After paying dearly it turned out that it was just another vacuum cleaner, only 3 times as expensive and noisy. Of course his story made me chuckle, but in a sense we've all been tricked by advertising and will continue to be... We were stupid to believe this crap, I'll grant you that, but there is no reason not to expose what we consider to be problems. When people are demonstrating CTE, pocketing balls, while looking like they are trying to parry a forward thrust from a longsword, then maybe it isn't quite as perfect as they claim...I would say that stroke anomalies like that is proof that you are aligned/aimed incorrectly, and at the last moment your subconscious corrects the aim...

If you are a paying customer then by all means vent your frustration in the only means possible to most... On here. I have issue with those that aren't willing to put up the money and buy a DVD but feel it's their right to bash it.

Ps, your friend should have bought a Dyson. I bought one a while back and they're amazing vacuum cleaners

 

[stan shuffett]

I want to chime in as another person who, seeing how confident and strong the opinions of the supporters were, thought there might be something to it. I spent $45 on the DVD, and came to the conclusion that there was no there there. But you know what? I bought it. Maybe that's all that matters.

CTE represents one of two broad categories for aiming. In order to be successful with CTE one must understand what they were doing and then totally disengage from it and then enter into another very different way of aiming. That is where the problems are even for the debating that occurs here.
I do understand both sides of the coin.

Most every single person that comes at me or my work has limited CTE knowledge and here is the biggie....it based on the wrong side of the coin.

If you are ever in KY, I will aquaint you with the proper side of the coin so that you can right the ship.

Stan Shuffett

 

[Banks]

What it has to do with is the SUCCESS of CTE PRO ONE.......and the fact that you and your cohorts can not put out the fire. I am still standing after 8 years. And the closer that CTE inches toward its tipping point, the larger the frenzy becomes. I don't mind being the target at all. There are some sweet days ahead.....
Thanks for your opposition......my book will be that much stronger for it...

Stan Shuffett

If that were true, why do you and your followers go silent when asked where the proof is behind the claims? You also claimed that cte was perfect and needed no updates, which you say it does in this thread.

 

[stan shuffett]

If that were true, why do you and your followers go silent when asked where the proof is behind the claims? You also claimed that cte was perfect and needed no updates, which you say it does in this thread.

I have explained all that is necessary to see the visuals........I can take most any player in any poolroom and with the same directions that have been listed here over and over, succeed with conveying the visual requirements.

Stan Shuffett

 

[ENGLISH!]

Why would anyone buy any aiming system? Because they want to improve that's why! And some of us put a great deal of work in, to achieve just that. We are not all D players who can't run 3 balls, you know.. A large part of Stans and Hals claims were that pros were secretly or unknowingly using CTE... Of course it's silly to buy stuff based on the claims in the commercial, but for a long time prior to myself buying CTE DVD 1, the forum had been SPAMMED by shills and fanboys about how wonderful CTE was and how it was going to change your game. Then some of us decided, hey lets check it out, I might be missing out here. Maybe I can move up my skill just one ball, even half a ball...I tried and tested it EXTENSIVELY, and guess what, there were problems with it. The improvement did happen, but only after ditching aiming systems.

Should all the unsatisfied customers now shut up and bow our heads in shame? NO, because being bullied into silence is not the right way to deal with stuff like this. A friend of mine bought a vacuum cleaner off the tv that looked like some sort of alien tehcnology and promised to be the greatest vacuum cleaner ever. After paying dearly it turned out that it was just another vacuum cleaner, only 3 times as expensive and noisy. Of course his story made me chuckle, but in a sense we've all been tricked by advertising and will continue to be... We were stupid to believe this crap, I'll grant you that, but there is no reason not to expose what we consider to be problems. When people are demonstrating CTE, pocketing balls, while looking like they are trying to parry a forward thrust from a longsword, then maybe it isn't quite as perfect as they claim...I would say that stroke anomalies like that is proof that you are aligned/aimed incorrectly, and at the last moment your subconscious corrects the aim...

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[Neil]

If that were true, why do you and your followers go silent when asked where the proof is behind the claims? You also claimed that cte was perfect and needed no updates, which you say it does in this thread.

What claims would that be? That it is not objective? Been discussed to death and proven objective to reasonable people. That it is a different dimension of aiming? It also has been discussed. That pros use it? Also been discussed. That it will better ones game? Also been discussed. That the system brings one to the center pocket? Also been discussed. About the math behind it? Also been discussed.

So, what claims have the supporters been silent on?

 

[ENGLISH!]

English -- We really don't need to know which posts you agree with. I know I'm not keeping score at home and I don't suspect anyone else is so we could probably fo without all of your thumbs-up posts.

Can you imagine what all threads would look like if we followed your example?

I see your point but since it is me that is often being 'attacked', I think I can acknowledge when someone else states the same as I have been saying.

Often times someone on the CTE side states that I'm the ONLY one or that it's just PJ & ME.

But I do see your point & will make an effort to cut back but you do not know the PM side of things either.

Thanks for the heads up.

Best Wishes to ALL.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Been discussed to death and proven objective to reasonable people.

Nope.

pj
chgo

 

[MahnaMahna]

I see your point but since it is me that is often being 'attacked', I think I can acknowledge when someone else states the same as I have been saying.

Often times someone on the CTE side states that I'm the ONLY one or that it's just PJ & ME.

But I do see your point & will make an effort to cut back but you do not know the PM side of things either.

Thanks for the heads up.

Best Wishes to ALL.

This post is crappy.

 

[MahnaMahna]

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This post is also crappy.

 

[MahnaMahna]

That's not true about me. I did try it & was impressed with some shots that fit the 'prescription' but rather quickly came to realize that there were issues.

Then when I saw the 5 shots perception YouTube video by Stan, I knew that there would be NOTHING forth coming to explain or show that is any king of totally objective system or method.

As I've said, if that assertion we to be retracted then IMO most, if not all, of the hub bub would disappear.

Then things could be much like you outlined. It's a method, try it you might like it or you might not.

BUT... That assertion buts it into a completely different realm from ALL other methods.

Quite simply... it is not what that assertion says that it is & anyone considering trying it should know that going in or... at least know that that assertion as not been proven not unproven.

If they know that going in then they go in without the pull of that assertion & that's fine.

Best Wishes.

PS I'll say it again.

If anyone wants to or is considering buying & trying CTE they should do as they wish but should know that the assertion that it is a totally objective 'system' has not been proven nor unproven.

Even more crappy than the other posts.

 

[Banks]

What claims would that be? That it is not objective? Been discussed to death and proven objective to reasonable people. That it is a different dimension of aiming? It also has been discussed. That pros use it? Also been discussed. That it will better ones game? Also been discussed. That the system brings one to the center pocket? Also been discussed. About the math behind it? Also been discussed.

So, what claims have the supporters been silent on?

By discussed, you mean dodged?

That certain pros "unknowingly" use it is absurd.

There is no math backing up the claims.

It has needed updates and Stan says so in the very thread, despite always having said otherwise. So, even while he was marketing it as a perfect system, he himself knew that was untrue.

 

[cookie man]

That's not true about me. I did try it & was impressed with some shots that fit the 'prescription' but rather quickly came to realize that there were issues.

Then when I saw the 5 shots perception YouTube video by Stan, I knew that there would be NOTHING forth coming to explain or show that is any king of totally objective system or method.

As I've said, if that assertion we to be retracted then IMO most, if not all, of the hub bub would disappear.

Then things could be much like you outlined. It's a method, try it you might like it or you might not.

BUT... That assertion buts it into a completely different realm from ALL other methods.

Quite simply... it is not what that assertion says that it is & anyone considering trying it should know that going in or... at least know that that assertion as not been proven not unproven.

If they know that going in then they go in without the pull of that assertion & that's fine.

Best Wishes.

PS I'll say it again.

If anyone wants to or is considering buying & trying CTE they should do as they wish but should know that the assertion that it is a totally objective 'system' has not been proven nor unproven.

You may have tried it for a few minutes but you never learned it.

 

[Neil]

By discussed, you mean dodged?

That certain pros "unknowingly" use it is absurd.

There is no math backing up the claims.

It has needed updates and Stan says so in the very thread, despite always having said otherwise. So, even while he was marketing it as a perfect system, he himself knew that was untrue.

Hey, you are the one that said there was silence. There wasn't silence at all. It's just that you disagree with what others had to say about it.

 

[ENGLISH!]

You may have tried it for a few minutes but you never learned it.

I learned it well enough to be pocketing balls with it & to find out when it would not do so without an outside subjective interpretation & input.

From that point on it was in doubt & Stan's You Tube perception videos confirmed that doubt.

From that point on I realized that it was not as it was affirmed to be & not something that I was nor am interested in for my game.

That said...

If anyone wants to or is considering buying & trying CTE they should do as they wish but should know that the assertion that it is a totally objective 'system' has not been proven nor unproven.

 

[cookie man]

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Dear Readers,

Just know that an assertion regarding ANY 'aiming system' that it is a totally objective 'system' has neither been proven nor unproven.

Knowing that... I suggest that one Buy & Try any system that one wants to, as well one should.

Best Wishes 2 ALL.

JB is done here, why are trying to BAIT him back in?