Beware of Billy Burke!!!

Marky Mark

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To make a long story short, I had engaged in a trade deal that went sideways with Billy Burke or as he claims to be "billybambino" on this site/forum. He wanted to trade his 2x4 Volturi case for my advertised FS Lomax jumper plus $40. He basically told me that since we are trading, we should send out the items AT THE SAME TIME/DAY. We come to an agreement last week and on Friday, Oct. 9 I ship the item as agreed. The guy played me and took me for a ride by making me believe that he was going to send out his case on that same day. I text him the waybill info (which means the item will go out) and the proof that I had paid via Paypal as he had asked me previously. His reply to me was "Cool thanks for the update. I'll be outta work around 5:30 & I'm gonna stop at the post office on my way home & I'll send you the tracking info." Around 9PM PST, no text from him despite what he said. I wait till the next day and at 6PM PST I finally send him a text saying "Do you have the tracking info for your case?" When he didn't reply I already knew something was up...

Mind you, he did not reply or send me a message since Friday Oct. 9 until the morning of Oct. 13. He probably phoned DHL to find out what's up. He didn't know that I cancelled delivery on Oct. 12 as it was scheduled to be delivered to him that day. This guy wasn't gonna get a cue for free that's for sure!

Lo and behold, finally a text from Billy finally on Oct. 13 and he opens up by saying "I'm glad I waited & didn't ship the case. I had a funny feeling. DHL said that you cancelled the delivery..." -of course I cancelled. He didn't honor his word, played me for a fool all along. Now it made sense as to why he kept trying to know when I could ship. He wanted to make sure that he got my item and then MAYBE ship me his case if he felt like I was worthy. As with all fraudsters, once their plans foiled they turn the tables on the their victim before you can cry foul by making it seem like the victim was at fault in the first place.

He justisfied his actions by the following reasons:
1. He was vouched for by Geovani or Eraj. According to him, this gives him the right to change the terms which was to ship the items on the same day WITHOUT letting me know. He basically implied that it was common sense that since he's backed up by someone who has a golden rep, I should not worry about a thing.
2. He doesn't know me and my reputation
3. He's been burned before on OBM and that he was determined not to let it happen again.
4. He wanted to make sure that he wasn't getting stiffed "first". So in essence, he stiffs the other guy which happens to be me. he even went on to say that he's sure that I see his POV. He even said that I could have sent him an empty box.
5. Also, since I'm from another country (Vancouver, Canada) it was OK to do what he did.

These are pretty bold statements from someone who has 1 iTrader dating back to 2014. He even mentioned to me in the initial part of our conversations that "he's good people and that he would not let his reputation be tarnished just because of a cue." I find that his actions are rather an irony of everything he's been telling me the whole time with a lot of twisted thinking.

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Now I'm out about $60 (charge to experience) for shipping both ways and brokerage fees as the item is going back to Vancouver, Canada. It could have been worse but it is what it is now. Thanks for your time in reading and sorry about the long post.

-Mark
 
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Wtf!!! And why is my name in someone's beware post? I've met Billy in person and I've sold him cues before, never had a problem with him. You asked for reference so I told you the best I know based on my experience with him, you had a hiccup with him on your transaction unfortunately. Pls get my name out of this mess!!!
 
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Wtf!!! And why is my name in someone's beware post? I've met Billy in person and I've aold him cues before, never had a problem with him. You asked for reference so I told you the best I know based on my experience with him, you had a hiccup with him on your transaction unfortunately. Pls get my name out of this mess!!!


http://movie-sounds.org/crime-film-...-not-mine-it-s-uh-i-vouched-for-the-wrong-guy



I read it as Billy touted your name as a reason to act like he did. I would go talk to Billy if I were you.
 
Like I said, I've dealt with Billy before without any issues and I've met him in person out and about at tournaments and he's been good people. Don't think Billy would pull moves on someone for a $200 jump cue, he's not hungry to the point he would out someone of $200 and risk his life and reputation being a player that gets around.. Whatever happened between them both, is their business and I had no parts of their dealings nor was I beneficial of it. He asked for reference and I told him I've dealt with Billy before and he's good people.. I did what I would have done for anyone I've dealt with and had positive transactions with.. This is the main reason why I don't like to vouch for people for this same reason..
 
He we go again. I'm tired of popcorn. Can we just move on to threatening bodily harm, and get the ban hammer dropped?

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You can't be serious. One of the most beloved characters of all time?
Why, I've never heard of such a thing. :)
 

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Wtf!!! And why is my name in someone's beware post? I've met Billy in person and I've sold him cues before, never had a problem with him. You asked for reference so I told you the best I know based on my experience with him, you had a hiccup with him on your transaction unfortunately. Pls get my name out of this mess!!!

Hi Geovani;

I don't think the op is casting any black shadow on you or your rep; he is just saying that the guy he was trying to do his trade deal with used your name as a reference and as a reason (bad one) why he didn't stick with his agreed terms he had with th op.

If that is accurate, you may be mad at the wrong guy.

The other side of the story would def be helpful.

best,
brian kc
 
Today, 06:20 AM
Like I said, I've dealt with Billy before without any issues and I've met him in person out and about at tournaments and he's been good people. Don't think Billy would pull moves on someone for a $200 jump cue, he's not hungry to the point he would out someone of $200 and risk his life and reputation being a player that gets around.. Whatever happened between them both, is their business and I had no parts of their dealings nor was I beneficial of it. He asked for reference and I told him I've dealt with Billy before and he's good people.. I did what I would have done for anyone I've dealt with and had positive transactions with.. This is the main reason why I don't like to vouch for people for this same reason..

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Geovani,


Billy Burke for ur info is exactly the Man U say he's not just ask a few players in west palm beach who has stiffed fo amounts less than $50
 
Today, 06:20 AM
Like I said, I've dealt with Billy before without any issues and I've met him in person out and about at tournaments and he's been good people. Don't think Billy would pull moves on someone for a $200 jump cue, he's not hungry to the point he would out someone of $200 and risk his life and reputation being a player that gets around.. Whatever happened between them both, is their business and I had no parts of their dealings nor was I beneficial of it. He asked for reference and I told him I've dealt with Billy before and he's good people.. I did what I would have done for anyone I've dealt with and had positive transactions with.. This is the main reason why I don't like to vouch for people for this same reason..

All sales are final, I ship what I list.

Customer Satisfaction Guaranteed!

Not here to hit a home run, Small sale and quick profit.

# If winning was easy, losers would do it!

Certified Dealer Of:

Pat Diveney Custom Cues
Chad McLennan Custom Cues
JB Custom Cue Cases

516-587-9051

Geovani,


Billy Burke for ur info is exactly the Man U say he's not just ask a few players in west palm beach who he has stiffed for amounts less than $50
 
Wow this guy is crazy.... Long story short. We set up a trade but he wanted me to send first I said no well ship at the same time. He said I have no I trader so he doesn't trust it can anyone vouch for me. I told him geovani would he knows me. Geovani indeed did vouch for me so the deal was on. I was supposed to receive a cue from him in the mail on friday but was set back til monday. I waited til Monday no cue so I called dhl and they said thr sender canceled the pkg. I tried to call mark to find out what was going on but he said I was trying to rip him off which is not true at all. I just didn't want to get burned myself and with geovani vouching for me I would assume mark would know I wouldnt rip anybody off for a 200 jump cue. I travel and play pool for a living. That's just not good business. The whole thing is really pretty stupid. I just wanted to clear my name. Also I want to apologize to geovani for getting him dragged into this.
 
Wow this guy is crazy.... Long story short. We set up a trade but he wanted me to send first I said no well ship at the same time. He said I have no I trader so he doesn't trust it can anyone vouch for me. I told him geovani would he knows me. Geovani indeed did vouch for me so the deal was on. I was supposed to receive a cue from him in the mail on friday but was set back til monday. I waited til Monday no cue so I called dhl and they said thr sender canceled the pkg. I tried to call mark to find out what was going on but he said I was trying to rip him off which is not true at all. I just didn't want to get burned myself and with geovani vouching for me I would assume mark would know I wouldnt rip anybody off for a 200 jump cue. I travel and play pool for a living. That's just not good business. The whole thing is really pretty stupid. I just wanted to clear my name. Also I want to apologize to geovani for getting him dragged into this.

Why did you not ship the cue the same day he did, if you both agreed to that? And did you ignore his communications for several days as he says?
 
Wow this guy is crazy.... Long story short. We set up a trade but he wanted me to send first I said no well ship at the same time. He said I have no I trader so he doesn't trust it can anyone vouch for me. I told him geovani would he knows me. Geovani indeed did vouch for me so the deal was on. I was supposed to receive a cue from him in the mail on friday but was set back til monday. I waited til Monday no cue so I called dhl and they said thr sender canceled the pkg. I tried to call mark to find out what was going on but he said I was trying to rip him off which is not true at all. I just didn't want to get burned myself and with geovani vouching for me I would assume mark would know I wouldnt rip anybody off for a 200 jump cue. I travel and play pool for a living. That's just not good business. The whole thing is really pretty stupid. I just wanted to clear my name. Also I want to apologize to geovani for getting him dragged into this.


So you agreed to ship on the same day and, when he did, you didn't and now you're upset? You don't just get to change the agreed upon terms without discussing with the other party because someone vouched for you.
 
Wow this guy is crazy.... Long story short. We set up a trade but he wanted me to send first I said no well ship at the same time. He said I have no I trader so he doesn't trust it can anyone vouch for me. I told him geovani would he knows me. Geovani indeed did vouch for me so the deal was on. I was supposed to receive a cue from him in the mail on friday but was set back til monday. I waited til Monday no cue so I called dhl and they said thr sender canceled the pkg. I tried to call mark to find out what was going on but he said I was trying to rip him off which is not true at all. I just didn't want to get burned myself and with geovani vouching for me I would assume mark would know I wouldnt rip anybody off for a 200 jump cue. I travel and play pool for a living. That's just not good business. The whole thing is really pretty stupid. I just wanted to clear my name. Also I want to apologize to geovani for getting him dragged into this.


doing what you agreed to do obviates this revolting predicament you find yourself in

you cannot unilaterally modify a transaction with impunity
 
Thr only time I wanted to ship the same day was at first. Then he said without I trader he doesn't trust the deal so i need someone to vouch. I got someone to vouch as asked. Then I said ok you can ship the lomax and put a hold on the paypal until u get the volturi. I would ship thr volturi when I received the lomax. No one was out to hurt anyone here in a deal. I'm not mad, I simply don't care. I just don't want to have a bad name on here.
 
Why don't you post our text messages...then we'll see who's lying here.
 

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Thr only time I wanted to ship the same day was at first. Then he said without I trader he doesn't trust the deal so i need someone to vouch. I got someone to vouch as asked. Then I said ok you can ship the lomax and put a hold on the paypal until u get the volturi. I would ship thr volturi when I received the lomax. No one was out to hurt anyone here in a deal. I'm not mad, I simply don't care. I just don't want to have a bad name on here.

If you have people vouching for you then I will take that as face value. It does seem however that in your effort to avoid being ripped off, you changed the agreed to terms of the deal.

The original poster is then left scrambling to make sure he doesn't get fleeced (you have to admit that with no notice and no communication it looked pretty clear that he was going to get hosed) and having to pay for shipping fees because you decided to one sidedly change the agreement to protect yourself.

You, at minimum, owe an apology if not some compensation.

My two cents.
 
Cases like this is why I only use escrow when trading. My guess is no one was out to hurt anyone but both had issues of trusting the other so this would have all been avoided with an escrow guy.
 
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