Perception...what you see ain't always real

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GregH
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Nice parrot.....or is it?

Kinda like thinking you are actually hitting the OB ball fuller or thinner when in reality, the size of the area on each ball is always the same. The approach angle of the CB, aka the cut angle does not matter. The perception that you can hit a ball fuller or thinner with another ball is a illusion is ones head.

In the shot pics, it appears the CB will hit the 11 fuller that it will the 9 ball, yet when the CB is placed contacting the OB and you look straight down at them, there is only a certain size area of each that are touching.

Kinda like the parrot pic.......
 
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3D perception is always how we see balls on the table. Strict geometry and 2D mathematics do not take into account these perceptions. Now, what if there were a system that takes advantage of 3D perceptions, and can use them objectively to pocket balls? :yikes:
 
Mr. Duckles

You are correct in that the area of both the CB and OB are the same upon contact. What you're clearly missing is that the contact points on both balls will determine the thickness of the cut, or cut angle.

Please reference the crude diagram below for a better understanding. While the contact areas will be the same size, it should be painfully obvious which one will result in a thinner hit.

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A much smarter and better player than you,

Jon
 
I can't think of anybody who considers thick or thin as a way of stating that you're actually contacting a greater area of the OB. The OB and CB are spheres, it is impossible for the contact points to ever be greater. The surface area contacted on a straight in shot is the same as it is for the thinnest of cuts. What was the purpose of your post?

Thick or thin cut is just a way of describing the angle of approach by the CB to the OB.
 
BeiberLvr said:
Mr. Duckles

You are correct in that the area of both the CB and OB are the same upon contact. What you're clearly missing is that the contact points on both balls will determine the thickness of the cut, or cut angle.

Please reference the crude diagram below for a better understanding. While the contact areas will be the same size, it should be painfully obvious which one will result in a thinner hit.

hzTmjvBbkiFTBMQaMXQo.png


A much smarter and better player than you,

Jon
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I've never seen this perception in CTE. :smile-us-down:
 
Ever look at a car going down the road and it appears the wheels are rotating backwards from the direction the car is going?

What you see, is not always what happening.
 
duckie said:
Ever look at a car going down the road and it appears the wheels are rotating backwards from the direction the car is going?

What you see, is not always what happening.
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You are somewhat correct. You ARE seeing what IS happening but some individuals do not seem to have or do not know how to utilize an ability to separate the reality of what IS from their perception & what they mistakenly think IS.

Perhaps Bill Clinton was correct. Maybe it does depend on what the definition of IS, IS.
 
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ENGLISH! said:
You are somewhat correct. You ARE seeing what IS happening but some individuals do not seem to have or do not know how to utilize an ability to separate the reality of what IS from their perception & what they mistakenly think IS.

Perhaps Bill Clinton was correct. Maybe it does depend on what the definition of IS, IS.
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I heard that Monica Lewinsky IS going to fun for president...
Her campaign slogan IS... I got it done when Hillary couldn't

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Thick and thin are convenient terms to describe from "ground level" how much of the cue ball obscures how much of the object ball on its travel from the cue tip to ball impact.

For players who use ghost ball or contact point aim, a shot should look a bit too thick right up to the moment of contact--too thick, too thick--pow, impact.
 
duckie said:
Nice parrot.....or is it?

Kinda like thinking you are actually hitting the OB ball fuller or thinner when in reality, the size of the area on each ball is always the same. The approach angle of the CB, aka the cut angle does not matter. The perception that you can hit a ball fuller or thinner with another ball is a illusion is ones head.

In the shot pics, it appears the CB will hit the 11 fuller that it will the 9 ball, yet when the CB is placed contacting the OB and you look straight down at them, there is only a certain size area of each that are touching.

Kinda like the parrot pic.......
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Well I am not a bird biologist or otherwise an expert in birds so I couldn't tell you if that is parrot or not. It might not be a real bird, could be a carving.

The aiming method I use puts me on the shot line without any illusions. That's the beauty of an objective method to use when perceiving the alignment.

Really though what is it really if not a parrot? Don't tease us.
 
Ralph Kramden said:
The parrot illusion ^^^^^
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Thanks, those are really cool. I have seen other body paint illusions that were awesome.

Duckie is right that when using Ghost Ball type of aiming illusions can affect perception.

Luckily for me I have a method that takes all the illusions out.
 
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