Don't know... Why...cause they're out of nickels ???
Etiquette question: Picking up a leaning cue during shot
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Don't know... Why...cause they're out of nickels ???
This a good point since there is a distinction between a shark move and sharking someone. To me a shark move is any move that could be construed to shark an opponent. If it's unintentional then it's probably not sharking, though I'd still consider it a shark move - something a shark may try to upset his opponent. Say you're fighting a cold and hard as you try to hold it, you sneeze while your foe is down on the shot. It's a shark move, but probably not sharking as such since you couldn't help it. Sometimes stuff just happens. Say you had a bad burrito just before the match...well, you should probably just forfeit. :thumbup:
In the context of the OP, it appears neither he nor his opponent felt he was sharking, but it probably was a shark move. That's why his opponent mentioned it to him after the set in a gentlemanly fashion that what he did could be construed as a move..
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I play a guy every Sunday who does exactly this and more. He will do everything possible to distract you when you are at the table. He only quits it when you call him out on it. I only play him because he is one of the only "A" players in the pool hall during the hours I play and I like kicking his ass about 5 games to 1.
And for ettiquette's sake, you should sit down or get the hell out of the way when your opponent is at the table
You sound like you feel a bit guilty.
And for ettiquette's sake, you should sit down or get the hell out of the way when your opponent is at the table
You sound like you feel a bit guilty.
I do not feel guilty, I was asking a question. From the varied responses I got, I am surprise someone would be bothered by me laying/picking up my cue out of turn which is 5" from where I was standing. I do not consider that a move as I was standing to his left 6 feet away. I will take the advice of sitting while someone is shooting, but I would expect the same courtesy.
I just read your original post. You said you put your cue down and was PREPARING TO RACK. That's where I have a problem. If my opponent puts his cue down signaling he is PREPARING TO RACK when I am on the last two balls in a rotation game I take it to mean he is conceding the game. I have mentioned this to opponents that do this. They only do it once. It's unsportsmanlike. And yes I do give my opponent the same courtesies that I expect from them.
I did not grab the rack nor approached the table. I just leaned my cue. I do not take leaning my cue beside me a sign of conceding. I think that is where the difference of opinions lie. I have watched many Pro games online and seen them do exactly the same thing.
I just saw this thread. Since you say "I picked my leaning cue up in anticipation to shoot," then you have your answer.
It's a shark move, even if you didn't mean in.
Freddie <~~~ we're all guilty at one time or another
You did say you were preparing to rack. In your mind you thought the game was over or why would you prepare to rack? Now I think it was an unconscious shark. I have seen this many times and it's unsportsmanlike. If it wasn't bothering you then why did you create the post? Your opponent was correct in calling you out and he did it the correct way. Now I think there is more to this than what has been explained.
In my mind the game was over because he is a B or A player. There was 2 balls left. Looked like a straightforward out. The only motion I did to indicate that was leaning my cue. It is bothering me because I never thought it was a move. And if it is, I have done it plenty of times and never got corrected.
Perhaps you should leave the forum out of it next time if you're only looking for us to agree with you.
Now you know. It's going to bother some people; others will let it pass.
It's a timing thing (you moved when he got out of line) , plus you've told us what was going through your mind when putting the cue down and picking it up. You know the answer. And it should have only taken one poster's response to get you the answer. This isn't a democracy or a poll. Enough people on this thread have responded such that there should be no question to you.
Freddie
I don't get son of you guys. Yall sound just like this woman In Napa league I saw one night. Our lo had forgot to put both teams roster with their scoresheet. We were playing 2 matches at a time and passing my roster list back and forth during matches.
Her captain asked for the scoresheet and I passed it to him. I never left my chair and was sitting 8 feet from where this woman was shooting at a hanging 8 ball and the cue ball followed the 8 in.
She complained my passing the scoresheet made her miscue. She whined so much I gave her the rack.her only win in a 6-2 race. Some people look every but in the mirror for the reason why they miss a shot.
When i am at the table I dont care if my opponent is counting quarters...picking his nose...twirling his cue like a baton or doing jumping jacks. All I'm worked about is what I'm doing at the table. If you are worried what your opponent is doing while you are shooting your focus aint where it should be
Her captain asked for the scoresheet and I passed it to him. I never left my chair and was sitting 8 feet from where this woman was shooting at a hanging 8 ball and the cue ball followed the 8 in.
She complained my passing the scoresheet made her miscue. She whined so much I gave her the rack.her only win in a 6-2 race. Some people look every but in the mirror for the reason why they miss a shot.
When i am at the table I dont care if my opponent is counting quarters...picking his nose...twirling his cue like a baton or doing jumping jacks. All I'm worked about is what I'm doing at the table. If you are worried what your opponent is doing while you are shooting your focus aint where it should be
It doesnt matter how you feel when you're at the table. If you're doing something your opponent might find out of line, then stop.
I really don't know why people are bothered by things like this. When I hit the learning curve, one of the first YouTube matches I saw was Efren gambling in the Philippines where there is constant movement, noise, distractions, etc. and they play just fine.
It doesn't bother them so I don't let it bother me.
It's completely up to the person down on the shot to remain focused. If anything short of an Earthquake, gun shot, or Christ Awakening bothers the player then it's his fault for not controlling his mind.
It doesn't bother them so I don't let it bother me.
It's completely up to the person down on the shot to remain focused. If anything short of an Earthquake, gun shot, or Christ Awakening bothers the player then it's his fault for not controlling his mind.
And now you've got more than a dozen or so times telling you it's considered a shark move. So learn from all this input.
Oh come on. Laying down your cue in anticipation of racking because you think you are going to lose the game has to be one of the oldest sharks out there. The OP didn't know this. Maybe there is such a thing as an innate shark in that people that are born to play pool are born with it. Please. It's a subtle shark, albeit unconscious some times, short of letting your stick hit the ground and smashing cymbols behind the shooters head.
There is a guy I play often that does this. I told him that when he does that I am assuming he is conceding the game. He doesn't do it with me anymore but he still does it to other opponents.
There is a guy I play often that does this. I told him that when he does that I am assuming he is conceding the game. He doesn't do it with me anymore but he still does it to other opponents.
So it's cool with you if you're opponent stands right next to you as you're down on a tricky 9 ball and whispers into your ear about the things he likes to put up his butt? You'd be fine paying him off when you miss the ball? It wasn't his fault?
You could just quit pool too. Seems like you're awfully bothered to be told that other people feel differently than you do. It's the easiest thing in the world to just sit down and watch your pool match.