recent find unknown cue i picked up....ivory ferrules

8 0 was more a Rambo size front.

Especially with a steel joint. Standard was more like .836 back then for most steel joint Cue builders. Not counting Rambo.
The bold is unusual. Mali used it.
Other production shops did too.
 
I don't disagree, looks nicer than any Mali I've seen with one exception

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It is a small diameter joint. I noticed that.

Mali?

Not sure about that one. I guess it's possible. I don't remember seeing a Mali like it.

I am really leaning more toward a custom. Could be wrong.

I really think this is a tough one.

But I do think it seems to be a good cue.

I am curious what's inside it. Perhaps that will reveal something. I really am uncertain.


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no way its a mali seen plenty of them plus whats in bluebook, points never this nice either....

its a f/s. aint got to take the wrap off to know that, can see tell tales in bottoms.

also with the refinish....could have brought the joint down, the back side of joint is at .825....1 inch behind the front.

you can see in the beveled plastic butt how yellowed it was previously b/f refinish
 
I think the but cap should point to someone and also eliminate others. Check with Phillipi as I have an old Phillipi that has a smaller joint diameter. I also think the veneers are nice and should point to someone.
 
Maybe it's an optical illusion but in the first set of pics it looks as though one of the point tips was low and was maybe drawn in with black marker to match the height of the other points... Tell me it ain't so..
 
skins said:
Maybe it's an optical illusion but in the first set of pics it looks as though one of the point tips was low and was maybe drawn in with black marker to match the height of the other points... Tell me it ain't so..
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You know, I couldn't help but notice the same thing; there seems to be some "fill-in" of some type at the base of the points. Hard to tell by the pictures.

Here's another thought. The buttplate has a squared-off, or beveled look to the bottom. The only other that I can think of that resembles this is McDermott, though this would have been a custom one, like one of of Jim M's that was not in a catalog line. Here's a picture of my old McDermott D-17, which has that similar squared off bevel on the buttplate. I don't really think so, as the points are pushed high for McDermott, but this is a possibility.

All the best,
WW
 

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skins said:
Maybe it's an optical illusion but in the first set of pics it looks as though one of the point tips was low and was maybe drawn in with black marker to match the height of the other points... Tell me it ain't so..
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negatory ghostwriter....it aint so lol....i even squinted to make sure :thumbup: the tips do line up even on the inside veneers except for the tips of the ebony points they are h/l by a little...
 
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You know, I couldn't help but notice the same thing; there

Here's another thought. The buttplate has a squared-off, or beveled look to the bottom. The only other that I can think of that resembles this is McDermott, though this would have been a custom one, like one of of Jim M's that was not in a catalog line. Here's a picture of my old McDermott D-17, which has that similar squared off bevel on the buttplate. I don't really think so, as the points are pushed high for McDermott, but this is a possibility.

All the best,
WW
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Interesting thought. That would be exciting, I only know of three definite pre-1975 McDermotts, and one possible that I have yet to see. It's thin evidence. Sometimes a butt plate is beveled on refinish because of chips. But it is an interesting thought.

We have to consider any possible identifying feature at this point, and not rule out any possibility unless it is definitely ruled out.
 
spoke to the previous owner for a bit yesterday and yes its been refinished at least twice and the shafts were made in 1980.

What are the odds that its a spain front?

The refinishes are obviously not tops as i've mentioned before that you can see the black dust from the points embedded in the maple.....i'm definately going to send it to scott sherbine soon over at proficient, it sure is one heck of a cue.

regards,
Keebie
 
greyghost said:
spoke to the previous owner for a bit yesterday and yes its been refinished at least twice and the shafts were made in 1980.

What are the odds that its a spain front?

The refinishes are obviously not tops as i've mentioned before that you can see the black dust from the points embedded in the maple.....i'm definately going to send it to scott sherbine soon over at proficient, it sure is one heck of a cue.

regards,
Keebie
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I think the cue deserves the attention.

In addition, Scott has seen the up close "nuts and bolts" of a lot of cues and once in his hands he may have some idea of who made it.

Please post pics after the work is done! :thumbup:



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Has anyone mentioned a Davis blank?... Where the bottom of the prongs meet the maple looks like his work I've seen. Under the wrap would may reveal that...From the pictures the cue looks of decent finish quality. How does the seam on the wrap look?
 
skins said:
Has anyone mentioned a Davis blank?... Where the bottom of the prongs meet the maple looks like his work I've seen. Under the wrap would may reveal that...From the pictures the cue looks of decent finish quality. How does the seam on the wrap look?
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the seam on the wrap is super great for its age. the top half can barely be seen and its slightly not as perfect on bottom half, still straight as hell but the outside upper of seam is seperated, the underside is still matched perfect...if that makes sense....

when i get in from offshore i'll get my aunt to take those good photos with the diffuser for light and stuff so everyone can really see.
 
I am thinking a Spain blank. Saw this one on the bay but opted out. Kinda wish I had bid. To me, I am seeing a cue built from a Spain blank or it is a repaired cue with a new buttcap. I don't know why, but I have an inkling to say it might me a Petersen with a repaired buttcap.
 
subdude1974 said:
I am thinking a Spain blank. Saw this one on the bay but opted out. Kinda wish I had bid. To me, I am seeing a cue built from a Spain blank or it is a repaired cue with a new buttcap. I don't know why, but I have an inkling to say it might me a Petersen with a repaired buttcap.
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i know right......i keep thinking the same dam thing about that dog gone buttcap....and the fact that (if you read all my posts) that i cant get it off ( weight bolt)

no one does that chit.......and i've seen more pics and held more cues than i can remember and those dam veneers keep screaming SPAIN
 
I've seen Spain's here in the Chicago area with the exact same "filler" at the base of the points. When I looked at your first pic it's what came to mind. Good luck, nice score especially if it's Burtons work.
 
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