What Type of Cueist Are You & Why Do You Think Your Way is Best?

greyghost said:
yes Rick....I know what it "is" some even refer to it as the 2nd mind, or mind 2......over the past 20 years there has been more and more sports science studies on it.....

besides sports the subconscious controls everything we do out of habit an dont think about. Things that have been done so many times its habitually our way.....we do not think of "how we walk" from day to day......generally when we are performing at our highest levels of ability in many diff areas of life.....like i say often when first learning to walk i'm sure it sucked, and you/we had to think alot about how not to fall.......eventually we learned it by repition and seeing others do it. If we had to think about every little thing we diid when we walked today, we would constantly be tripping.

well does your subconscious understand english? Do you and your subconscious communicate verbally?

What are your thoughts on that?
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Your 'broken' english does not make true communication from you an easy accomplishment is what I think.

A child learns more, quantitatively, in their first 6 years than they will learn in the rest of their entire lives & very very much of what they 'learn' requires no thinking about it for them to learn it. Much of what they learn is just very natural that must be refine through trial & error & successes & failures.

One can learn to perform a contrived motion by repetitions just as easily as one can refine a natural motion by repetitions.

If one can refine a natural motion then there is no need for a contrived motion.

One will NEVER find out if one can refine their natural motion if one is taught a contrived motion & told that it is best or just as good as a natural motion.

A contrived motion is never better or equal to a natural motion that has been refined by repetition.... because it NATURAL.

ALL Best Wishes for ALL.
 
justadub said:
You like to invoke that "omniscient" line regularly. Sorry, I don't know all and see all. But I do see you, pretty clearly.

Forum rules don't prevent you from saying anything in a civil manner here. You can't swear, you can't spam, you can't put For Sale stuff in The Main Forum, you can't make ad hominem attacks.

What possible rule would you be breaking to enlighten me?
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You know virtually nothing about me. You only think you know what you think you know.

Mr. Wilson sometimes has his own interpretation of the rules & hence sort of has some of his own rules.

Can you say that so & so said that I am a XYZ & he is right, you are?

You did not make the ad hominem attack that said that I was a XYZ, so & so said it. You just agreed with him... or her.

Many know how to skirt the rules technically & do so all of the time when they violate the spirit of the rules.

Somethings are just not for public view & knowledge. What I was going to relay to you was told to me in private & I am sure that the individual would not mind if I relayed it to another but would probably not like it out to the general public.

But forget it, on second thought, I'd rather not pass it on to you given your comradery with certain individuals

All Best Wishes for You & Yours... & ALL.
 
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This is fun. I am going to sell snacks to the spectators. A guy can make a fair buck, right?


Will there be bloodshed?




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greyghost said:
pretty much rick......i mean everyone on earths elbows are fixed relative to their bodies.......do you walk around all day everyday with your head falling off since its obvioulsy never attached


and yes i know what the hell contrivance is.....its a fancy way for you to say that I'm scheming and or trying to hide something......

when I nor Randy is doing such.....but your performing a contrivance by insinuating such negatives as your dna insists you do without hesitation seemingly everyday
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Well, you must look really funny walking around all of the time with your elbows fixed RELATIVE to your body.

And it seems you do not know what a contrivance is when it comes to a method over one that is natural.
 
ENGLISH! said:
You know virtually nothing about me. You only think you know what you think you know.

Mr. Wilson sometimes has his own interpretation of the rules & hence sort of has some of his own rules.

Can you say that so & so said that I am a XYZ & he is right, you are?

You did not make the ad hominem attack that said that I was a XYZ, so & so said it. You just agreed with him... or her.

Many know how to skirt the rules technically & do so all of the time when they violate the spirit of the rules.

Somethings are just not for public view & knowledge. What I was going to relay to you was told to me in private & I am sure that the individual would not mind if I relayed it to another but would probably not like it out to the general public.

But forget it, on second thought, I'd rather not pass it on to you given your comradery with certain individuals

All Best Wishes for You & Yours... & ALL.
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There we go.

"on second thought, I'd rather not pass it on to you given your comradery with certain individuals"

Beautiful.

Guilty by association. Guess that means you don't know me, either.
 
greyghost said:
thats gave me my 6th rep from this thread....i been so full for so many years lol....but man every one i get on this thread, i just love letting you know....since you thought you were just ON FIYA with your one green token......poor guy hes still worried about his reputation score......yall shure this dudes old and not just some teen?

Needs constant attention, worried about their image allthe time......pfff he might be worse than a teen......omg....he couldbe a teen girl catfishing

que ominous music!
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Yep,

You are nearly exactly like that other guy... taking things out of context & twisting & distorting them with your slant for your motives & agenda.

Try to find the truth, Keebie. It will set you free.

All Best Wishes for ALL.

PS In your next post why don't you say that my Mama wears Army Boots?
 
Keebler Elf,


This is part of the same issue as that other guy.

You mix matters up, seemingly rather often as I am learning.

You did NOT give me any recipe for etouffe. You gave me a recipe for Red Fish Couvillion.

All Best Wishes for ALL.
 
justadub said:
There we go.

"on second thought, I'd rather not pass it on to you given your comradery with certain individuals"

Beautiful.

Guilty by association. Guess that means you don't know me, either.
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Did I say that I knew you?

Perhaps IF I did, I might determine that I could trust you with what I was going to tell you.

I do NOT know you & I decided that it might not be advisable to tell you what I was going to tell you.

It has become obvious how you see me & it is obvious how you see some others.

You're NOT on the fence & you are NOT in my yard, that means you are on the other side of the fence from me.

All Best Wishes for ALL.
 
justadub said:
There we go.

"on second thought, I'd rather not pass it on to you given your comradery with certain individuals"

Beautiful.

Guilty by association. Guess that means you don't know me, either.
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When one runs with a pack of hyenas, one is not likely to be a lamb.

Or when one willingly drinks & parties with Nazis one is not likely to be Jewish.

Or when one associates & parties with drug dealers & rapists one is not likely to be a priest, or a nun, or a real doctor, or a nurse, or a drug enforcement officer.

The phrase 'guilt by association' can be well used to make a good & important point to a naive young man or women.
 
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ENGLISH! said:
Did I say that I knew you?

Perhaps if I did, I might determine that I could trust you with what I was going to tell you.

I do NOT know you & I decided that it might not be advisable to tell you what I was going to tell you.

It has become obvious how you see me & it is obvious how you see some others.

You're no on the fence & you are not in my yard, that means you are on the other side of the fence from me.

All Best Wishes for ALL.
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Once again, guilty by association.

Remember, I like to think I'm on friendly terms with a lot of different folks in this community. Folks that really don't get along here much. (Lou/JB, PJ/Neil, etc) Yet somehow I'm not guilty by association with those folks. Interesting, isn't it?

Not that I'm begging for your super secret information. I'm just pointing out your error in judgement.
 
justadub said:
Once again, guilty by association.

Remember, I like to think I'm on friendly terms with a lot of different folks in this community. Folks that really don't get along here much. (Lou/JB, PJ/Neil, etc) Yet somehow I'm not guilty by association with those folks. Interesting, isn't it?

Not that I'm begging for your super secret information. I'm just pointing out your error in judgement.
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Bruce,

You are not pointing out any error in my judgement at all.

I don't know you & I do NOT "know" that I could trust you & especially now that you have shown yourself as to what you think you know about me & how you feel about others.

You've made your judgment & it would be bad judgement on my part if I were to trust you.

It's no big super secret information.

It is just something that would show how wrong something you said is & how naive you are about that subject.

ALL Best Wishes to ALL.

PS1 Even Jesus had enemies as He stood up for something. He did not ride the fence. He called a sinner a sinner & a hypocrite a hypocrite.

PS2 You're siding with & standing with those that would insult & attack the messenger instead of & rather than discussing an issue civilly. Jesus did not convert sinners from sin by insulting them... nor by verbally attacking THEM.
 
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ENGLISH! said:
When one runs with a pack of hyenas, one is not likely to be a lamb.

Or when one willingly drinks & parties with Nazis one is not likely to be Jewish.

Or when one associates & parties with drug dealers & rapists one is not likely to be a priest, or a nun, or a real doctor, or a nurse, or a drug enforcement officer.

The phrase 'guilt by association' can be well used to make a good & important point to a naive young man or women.
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Just wanted to quote this before he edits it.
 
ENGLISH! said:
Bruce,

You are not pointing out any error in my judgement at all.

I don't know you & I do NOT "know" that I could trust you & especially now that you have shown yourself as to what you think you know about me & how you feel about others.

You've made your judgment & it would be bad judgement on my part if I were to trust you.

It's no big super secret information.

It is just something that would show how wrong something you said is & how naive you are about that subject.

ALL Best Wishes to ALL.

PS1 Even Jesus had enemies as He stood up for something. He did not ride the fence. He called a sinner a sinner & a hypocrite a hypocrite.

PS2 You're siding with & standing with those that would insult & attack the messenger instead of & rather than discussing an issue civilly. Jesus did not convert sinners form sin by insulting them... nor by verbally attacking THEM.
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Well that's a relief. If the information you speak of is so sensitive that it can't be mentioned openly in The Main Forum, I'm glad that I'm not trustworthy enough to be burdened with keeping it a secret.

Phew! Imagine the pressure? Thanks!
 
Neil said:
Just wanted to quote this before he edits it.
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Why would I want to edit examples relating to the phrase guilt by association?

If someone is a sympathizer to those that oppose you, you do not trust them.

They are 'guilty' by association as a sympathizer.

If Bruce sees himself as a fence sitting neutral party & wanted to remain as such then he never should have left the fence.

He's the one using that phrase.

He is not guilty by association, he's now a full fledged member of the

'don't discuss the issue at hand just personally attack the messenger to try to make the issue go away or once again get hidden'.

All Best Wishes for ALL.
 
Hyenas and nazis, really? I can't believe all the hatred coming from discussions on the best way to play pool. Wtf, man?

So, some pool instructors have a setup here were they promote themselves and protect each other on here. Some even get others to do that work for them. It's not some huge conspiracy, just some guys trying to drum up business. It's hardly worthy of the word conspiracy, and certainly not a comparison to nazis! I bet there are similar politics going on carpentry-, motor sports sites or any other site dedicated to a hobby or profession. Everyone knows this is going on, and it's not specifically against the rules that you yourself enjoy "skirting" so much.

If you disagree with their teaching, then preach your own and let others make up their own minds on which one is best! That's the essence of one of your slogans, isn't it? When you start with the paranoid raving, you only lose every ounce of credibility you might have. This is not big politics. This is guys traveling around in a van showing people how to hit balls with a stick! It shouldn't even be worthy of anyones attention, really.

I have no association with any of the "professionals" on here, and thus have no interest what so ever in protecting them or their reputations, but that does not mean I'd spend my life trying to combat them, either. I also don't know enough about them to really tell what kind of instructors they are. They might be great, even if they teach things I disagree with (since I'm not an instructor myself, the value of my observations must be adjusted accordingly). Some of them seem to be top class, judging from their posts and insights, in my lowly opinion. If I felt that strongly and certain about the superiority of my opinions on pool teaching, I'd rather create my own school and teach some guys how to play pool than trying to drag down people doing their best to teach people.

If you truely wanted to deceive , do what some are doing, pick only young, talented up- and comers and teach them. Then talk non stop about your brief lessons with them whenever they win something. Yeah, that one lesson on bridges when he was twelve is why he won the nationals 10 years later... That way you get to take credit for their God given talent.:rolleyes: Don't start by teaching talentless Joe, you can do that later. There is this coach in Europe that keeps doing this over and over, so his resumè looks really impressive, but every other coach see him as somewhat of a clown and he quickly gets fired from any good teaching position, because essentially he only takes credit for talent and teaches a lot of rubbish. The other coaches do not, nor do I have any respect for people like that. I respect the guys with a passion for the game, who wants to make the game grow, instead of tending to their ego and bank account. Those guys exist, and should not be lumped in with the charlatans. I don't really even think there are too many of those charlatans, really, and they exist in every profession you can name, not just pool. Since there is so little money in pool, there may actually be a lot fewer here than in other sports and hobbies. The little money there is in pool tends to attract idealists, rather than people of that nature.
 
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justadub said:
Well that's a relief. If the information you speak of is so sensitive that it can't be mentioned openly in The Main Forum, I'm glad that I'm not trustworthy enough to be burdened with keeping it a secret.

Phew! Imagine the pressure? Thanks!
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Yeah, Right!
 
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