to hell with call shots...anyone else gone back to "slop" and loving it?

Call shot rotation games are lame, IMO. That applies to call shot/ call safe rules, especially. They take skill out of the game, instead of adding to it.

Of course straightpool and banks need to be call shot games, but 8,9,10 ball and straight rotation have no need to call shots. Seeing the 2-way shots (both the variation where you hide the cueball if you miss, and the one where you have the opportunity to make one of maybe 2-3 balls, is a skill. Knowing when to shoot them is also a skill. It makes the game more fun and can lead to more aggressive play, which I like.

Sometimes a guy will fluke a ball and win. Happened to me in snooker in a tournament not long ago. Didn't make me want to change the rules. He made a nice break from that fluke, thus he earned the win. If it came down to the final black and he fluked it, then sxxt happens, my friend. In the long run it all evens out.
 
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Straightpool_99 said:
Call shot rotation games are lame, IMO. That applies to call shot/ call safe rules, especially. They take skill out of the game, instead of adding to it.

Of course straightpool and banks need to be call shot games, but 8,9,10 ball and straight rotation have no need to call shots. Seeing the 2-way shots (both the variation where you hide the cueball if you miss, and the one where you have the opportunity to make one of maybe 2-3 balls, is a skill. Knowing when to shoot them is also a skill. It makes the game more fun and can lead to more aggressive play, which I like.

Sometimes a guy will fluke a ball and win. Happened to me in snooker in a tournament not long ago. Didn't make me want to change the rules. He made a nice break from that fluke, thus he earned the win. If it came down to the final black and he fluked it, then sxxt happens, my friend. In the long run it all evens out.
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ENGLISH! said:
When I was playing a lot & as far as I can still tell most bar bangers in the New Orleans area played & are playing either total luck counts as in you just have to hit the ball that needs to be hit or they play call the pocket.

Most bar bangers here do not want to play call your shot. It is only the better players that play call your shot in this area.

You guys can say all that want & try to demean all that you want.

If anyone will not play call your shot IMO, they are either afraid of it for some reason or they are an inferior player & are looking for that 'luck' shot that let's then keep shooting to 'steal' a win.

Like I said, I will play any way as long as we both know what that is going in.

Perhaps we are just different here. We have parishes instead of counties, gumbo instead of stew, & still have some Napoleonic Laws still on the books & many of us still open doors for females & walk on the street side of the walkway when with a female.

All Best Wishes for ALL.
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New Orleans's isn't any different than Denver when it comes to the rules.
It's possible that the place you went to was run by a bunch of weenies, and we have
all seen what happens when you mix pool with weenies, it never turns out good.

I shouldn't be complaining because I've won a lot of money over the years playing bar banger 8ball, call every titty


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cuesblues said:
New Orleans's isn't any different than Denver when it comes to the rules.
It's possible that the place you went to was run by a bunch of weenies, and we have
all seen what happens when you mix pool with weenies, it never turns out good.

I shouldn't be complaining because I've won a lot of money over the years playing bar banger 8ball, call every titty

:smile:
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I would guess that I've upset someone you 'worship'...

or perhaps you may have more than one account.

I am not talking about a trip to New Orleans or playing at one place.

I'm talking about playing in this area for nearly 50 years at different levels of frequency over those years.

I have already stated that the every 'titty' thing is NOT what I am talking about.

Best Wishes for ALL.
 
ENGLISH! said:
I was playing one pocket last week & I was banking a ball across corner from near the foot rail & it skimmed off a ball near the spot & then dribbled into the pocket.

I felt embarrassed & made the comment that perhaps we should play call your shot.

In a game of skill as much luck should be taken out as possible, IMO.

I think I would actually like call your shot one pocket. Those banked & kicked caroms & combos would be a bit different, I think.

All Best Wishes for All.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Again, here is my original post of this thread.
 
cuesblues said:
I shouldn't be complaining because I've won a lot of money over the years playing bar banger 8ball, call every titty


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That has been my experience as well. If they were willing to bet enough, they could name the rules. Most that wanted "Straight 8 no slop"(call everything) were clueless. NEVER encountered one that was even close to my speed.
 
cuesblues said:
You want to heard so bad, that you keep quoting yourself.
Don't know why, but I've always found it hilarious when people quote themselves.

Thanks pocketpoint14
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The point is that was all that I said.

I hit a bad shot & luck put it in the hole & I was a bit embarrassed & made the comment.

I am not PocketPoint, or anyone else, but it certainly seems to me that cuesblues may be a pseudonym or you may have another one.

Perhaps it's 'butt hurt hard on'.

Or you may be a relative or 'best friend' of someone that I've put a light on.

Best Wishes for ALL,
 
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ENGLISH! said:
The point is that was all that I said.

I hit a bad shot & luck put it in the hole & I was a bit embarrassed & made the comment.

I am not PocketPoint, or anyone else, but it certainly seems to me that cuesblues may be a pseudonym or you may have another one.

Perhaps it's 'butt hurt hard on'.

Or you may be a relative or 'best friend' of someone that I've put a light on.

Best Wishes for ALL,
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quoted......
 
BeiberLvr said:
Oh I know, but I wanted to quote it as is. For the record.
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Why?

What motive do you have?

Revenge because you blame me for your vacation?

Members & regular visitors are not blind.

I quoted my post for a purpose.

It was a rather innocuous post, but cuesblues took it down a hostile road.

ALL Best Wishes for ALL.
 
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ENGLISH! said:
Why?

What motive do you have?

Revenge because you blame me for your vacation?

Members & regular visitors are not blind.

I quoted my post for a purpose.

It was a rather innocuous post, but cuesblues took it down a hostile road.

ALL Best Wishes for ALL.
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I don't blame anyone but myself for being banned.
 
ENGLISH! said:
Not according to two guys here.

You will now be called a know nothing hillbilly bar banger.

All Best Wishes for You & Yours... & ALL.
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Two guys...Really? Your numbers are a bit off, sir. And the thread has been fairly civil by Azb standards as well. Nobody's calling you a hillbilly bar banger.

If you can't see the beauty and skill in a two way shot, especially kick safe/pocket and the like, then it's tough to discuss this maturely. I like shots like that, because it takes skill and people think you are just lucky when you make the ball or get safe, depending on what they thought you were trying to do. Combination/caroms, safe/banks etc are also in this category. I also like the occational fluked shot and so do audiences. They are pretty rare anyways.

Most of all I like the streamlining of rules this brings. Less arguing, more play. I also dislike having to show my opponent what I'm trying to do. I'm not a hustler, but still I want my thought processes to be a mystery to my opponent during the game.
 
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