Morning smells...

Good Man.

Don't let anyone tell you that need a longer lathe. 62" Cues (31" Butt, 31" Shaft) can be done on a 36" Lathe.

From the Morse Taper # 5, use one reducer from 5-3, then another reducer from 3-2. It's best with two to get the Spur Drive out far enough from the Spindle. Then use the best center at the tailstock, a DEAD CENTER with a drop of oil on the piece being turned.

You can mount a full size Router like the Makita variable speed router if you can make the right mount for it.

Thanks, Dave.

Unless you are using that machine just for tapering, isn't it a hassle to recenter(if using a set tru or the like) the chuck every time you want to switch out?
 
This is very good advice with a very good explanation. I really never looked at it that way.

I hope it all works out like you plan Tony. Just don't ever call me again.

I look at it this way.
The main lathe is your bread and butter lathe .
Do you really want to use it often to taper ???
That's the same lathe you're going to install joint screws, do all the facing, boring and threading. And perhaps, gun drilling .
My taper machine is a work horse. It gets used a ton. I've spent some dough to modify it so it can turn coring dowels, handles and forearms besides shafts and butts. Dust collection on it is much easier than in the big lathe .
 
First. You are being a jerk. Second, I've never claimed to be an expert on lathes.

Here is the thread on did on my DRO install. You may or may not find it helpful. Their kits have surely changed alot in 7 years.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=167206

I haven't called you any names Tony. I simply wanted to keep my personal anger towards you....well....personal. Yes I do take exception for the way you are being. I apologize if my questions were taken the wrong way, but it's very clear what you are trying to say about me.

I am done with your soap opera Randy, and it was all about me being happy with a new machine and I made a remark about a tool being used on a lathe and it hurt your feelings, sorry about that.
Nothing special about that text you posted, interesting that you didn't post the text with the name calling :cool:
You definitely need to do a lot of praying and a lot reflection.
Wish you the best.
 
Is this one of those instances where someone gets a new toy and someone finds out that they got one better than them and starts bashing the guy and his new toy? Tony I'm glad to see you'll be back up and running soon.
 
I am done with your soap opera Randy, and it was all about me being happy with a new machine and I made a remark about a tool being used on a lathe and it hurt your feelings, sorry about that.
Nothing special about that text you posted, interesting that you didn't post the text with the name calling :cool:
You definitely need to do a lot of praying and a lot reflection.
Wish you the best.

I thought it might be helpful for everyone to get some information. You're the one who started being an ass. Since you said your ex sold your equipment, i thought a 1340, since it was big enough to do everything.

You are pretty delusional bud. Like the kind regards guy, you are making up crap that doesn't exist to gain favor for yourself.

Instead of having a discussion that might benefit all, you began taunting me. As far as the text. I said I knew why she divorced you now and to go F yourself. I've never called you any names or spoken ill of you. YOU, the one who calls ME for advice is the guy who implied i know nothing. So, reread the text i sent you and be reassured i still mean it. I'd also LOVE to see ANY TEXTS where i called you names.

You are a fricken liar
 
Is this one of those instances where someone gets a new toy and someone finds out that they got one better than them and starts bashing the guy and his new toy? Tony I'm glad to see you'll be back up and running soon.

Not at all. I simply questioned his choices, since he called me for advice about it all, and remarks.

I wish him the best with his rebooted life and new wife. He needs to stop the lies though...
 
I thought it might be helpful for everyone to get some information. You're the one who started being an ass. Since you said your ex sold your equipment, i thought a 1340, since it was big enough to do everything.

You are pretty delusional bud. Like the kind regards guy, you are making up crap that doesn't exist to gain favor for yourself.

Instead of having a discussion that might benefit all, you began taunting me. As far as the text. I said I knew why she divorced you now and to go F yourself. I've never called you any names or spoken ill of you. YOU, the one who calls ME for advice is the guy who implied i know nothing. So, reread the text i sent you and be reassured i still mean it. I'd also LOVE to see ANY TEXTS where i called you names.

You are a fricken liar

Randy,

You have a short term memory when somebody is good to you and tries to help you out. I treat people like you... with kindness.
Saying **f you** that is not calling names? That says a lot about you...
As stated in the previous comment, you need to meditate and pray, that will do you good.
Best of luck to you.
 
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Randy,

You have a short term memory when somebody is good to you and tries to help you out. I treat people like you... with kindness.
Saying **f you** that is not calling names? That says a lot about you...
As stated in the previous comment, you need to meditate and pray, that will do you good.
Best of luck to you.

Are you referring to the 45 minutes you spent on the phone trying to convince me to go to the Mormon Church helping me? That after I emphatically told you that I didn't want to hear about it?

No... telling you to go f yourself is in no way calling you a name. I apologize if you can't and don't understand that. How about "go fly a kite"?.

People like me try and choose to keep condescending remarks to privaye text messages. You lie about them and i have to make them public.

Let's revisit how this began. You called glass scales junk and say Dropros is the best. I asked you to explain
Yourself. A discussion that would have been helpful to all. I guess whole purpose of your thread was "look what i got". I truly am sorry that i tried to start a useful discussion.

I wouldn't have had to deal with your taunting and condescention.

What I should have said, the only thing i should have said, was "wow, looking great". That's what the girls like to hear when they post selfies on Facebook...
Right?

There. Now I've called you a name:thumbup:
 
Come on fellows. I know we all have strong personalities, but lets try and draw a line for ourselves in a public form when it comes to personal shit. It won't do anyone any good if we don't. Most of us have decent observational skills and probably have made our mind up about the conflict regardless. Peace brothers.
 
Come on fellows. I know we all have strong personalities, but lets try and draw a line for ourselves in a public form when it comes to personal shit. It won't do anyone any good if we don't. Most of us have decent observational skills and probably have made our mind up about the conflict regardless. Peace brothers.


Amen KP. I think there are at least a couple threads in this section, that absolutely either belong somewhere else, or nowhere at all.
Great post.
 
Come on fellows. I know we all have strong personalities, but lets try and draw a line for ourselves in a public form when it comes to personal shit. It won't do anyone any good if we don't. Most of us have decent observational skills and probably have made our mind up about the conflict regardless. Peace brothers.

Nah... screw this guy. It's fine when he calls me over and over the last several years and constantly asks me my opinion, then when he says what I have, PUBLICLY, is junk and I ask him to explain himself he says I know basically NOTHING about cue building.....well I guess he knows it ALL and doesn't need anyone's help.

F him....

BTW Kelly, I think both of your programs are awesome.
 
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yea i second kelly.....this thread seems to have been Ricked........and hes not even on it.....i swear hes contagious.

Cokes and smiles fellas,
Greyghost
 
Nah... screw this guy. It's fine when he calls me over and over the last several years and constantly asks me my opinion, then when he says what I have, PUBLICLY, is junk and I ask him to explain himself he says I know basically NOTHING about cue building.....well I guess he knows it ALL and doesn't need anyone's help.

F him....

BTW Kelly, I think both of your programs are awesome.

I get that. I really do. He clearly insinuated that glass DRO scales are junk. If I had a DRO with glass scales I would have called him on it also. He was puffed up about his new machine and belittled what he didn't buy to feel more puffy. That seems to be pretty common. Imagine the uproar in these parts if he had changed lathe brands from xyz lathe to pdq lathe and summarily referred to xyz lathe as junk?

Do you really expect him to reply with "My mistake. Glass scales have been used in countless machine shops for many years with extremely accurate results. They aren't junk. I misspoke. I just feel like what I purchased is a little better for me than my other options."? Those first two words are too hard for some people I guess.

By all means, call him out publicly. Argue the point. Provide evidence on glass scales to show his statement was ludicrous. Sever ties with him publicly if that is your best move. It certainly sounds like it given he goes to you for advice then something like this publicly happens. I just feel like when it comes to personal stuff, posting private messages, etc., it just shouldn't happen. It doesn't help the forum and people watching who don't know what it is up will form an opinion based on who looks more like a victim rather than facts. Usually, nobody wins when it gets to that point and we all just look stupid.

Randy, I'm not trying to tell you what to do. This is just my opinion as a forum member.

Tony, be confident about your decisions without calling other stuff junk. The truth is nobody will ever be able to look at your cues and tell you used magnetic scales instead of glass. And unless you think Randy is totally masquerading as a cue maker (maybe he is just here to get chicks?) and doesn't belong in the forum answering cuemaker questions, publicly taunting him to show his cues or his ringwork comes off as childish. Strive to be better than that.
 
I get that. I really do. He clearly insinuated that glass DRO scales are junk. If I had a DRO with glass scales I would have called him on it also. He was puffed up about his new machine and belittled what he didn't buy to feel more puffy. That seems to be pretty common. Imagine the uproar in these parts if he had changed lathe brands from xyz lathe to pdq lathe and summarily referred to xyz lathe as junk?

Do you really expect him to reply with "My mistake. Glass scales have been used in countless machine shops for many years with extremely accurate results. They aren't junk. I misspoke. I just feel like what I purchased is a little better for me than my other options."? Those first two words are too hard for some people I guess.

By all means, call him out publicly. Argue the point. Provide evidence on glass scales to show his statement was ludicrous. Sever ties with him publicly if that is your best move. It certainly sounds like it given he goes to you for advice then something like this publicly happens. I just feel like when it comes to personal stuff, posting private messages, etc., it just shouldn't happen. It doesn't help the forum and people watching who don't know what it is up will form an opinion based on who looks more like a victim rather than facts. Usually, nobody wins when it gets to that point and we all just look stupid.

Randy, I'm not trying to tell you what to do. This is just my opinion as a forum member.

Tony, be confident about your decisions without calling other stuff junk. The truth is nobody will ever be able to look at your cues and tell you used magnetic scales instead of glass. And unless you think Randy is totally masquerading as a cue maker (maybe he is just here to get chicks?) and doesn't belong in the forum answering cuemaker questions, publicly taunting him to show his cues or his ringwork comes off as childish. Strive to be better than that.

I never wanted to post any messages but he specifically stated he never asked for my advice. He also lied about me calling him names in text messages. Tony can start ringing up other guys and ask about all the trash talking I've done and he won't come up with anything, because I haven't done any. Well, unless you consider conveying how pissed I am at him.

Regardless of what I am or who I am, if you are so convinced that I know nothing then why bother calling/texting me over the last 5-7 years to ask about: lathes, Pratt KC chucks, finish, ring work, shafts...the list goes on.

Alot of what has happened gets lost because guys don't bother reading everything. People don't get that he implied on the phone, and on here initially("ex sold my equipment?) that he was starting from scratch. A 1340 would have been a machine he could do everything on, which is why I couldn't understand his purchase of a 1236. Later we learn he still has the taper shaper and a cnc. That doesn't matter anymore because I am the ass who "just can't be happy that the guy got some new toys".

I'm still lost as to the reasons he turned on me like a feral cat whose food I tried to steal.

Are there girls on here???:D
 
I never wanted to post any messages but he specifically stated he never asked for my advice. He also lied about me calling him names in text messages. Tony can start ringing up other guys and ask about all the trash talking I've done and he won't come up with anything, because I haven't done any. Well, unless you consider conveying how pissed I am at him.

Regardless of what I am or who I am, if you are so convinced that I know nothing then why bother calling/texting me over the last 5-7 years to ask about: lathes, Pratt KC chucks, finish, ring work, shafts...the list goes on.

Alot of what has happened gets lost because guys don't bother reading everything. People don't get that he implied on the phone, and on here initially("ex sold my equipment?) that he was starting from scratch. A 1340 would have been a machine he could do everything on, which is why I couldn't understand his purchase of a 1236. Later we learn he still has the taper shaper and a cnc. That doesn't matter anymore because I am the ass who "just can't be happy that the guy got some new toys".

I'm still lost as to the reasons he turned on me like a feral cat whose food I tried to steal.

Are there girls on here???:D

Yep. I completely understand your position.

Nobody has introduced you to the cuemaker room with the girls???
 
Tony, be confident about your decisions without calling other stuff junk. The truth is nobody will ever be able to look at your cues and tell you used magnetic scales instead of glass. And unless you think Randy is totally masquerading as a cue maker (maybe he is just here to get chicks?) and doesn't belong in the forum answering cuemaker questions, publicly taunting him to show his cues or his ringwork comes off as childish. Strive to be better than that.

The words might have been a bit strong and I already apologized for it. If I did hurt somebodies feelings, the apology was extended to that as well.
I am not mean spirited and didn't mean bad but unfortunately it did came across that way.
I didn't go on a rant like the other guy did texting profanity, by doing that it only shows up the character you have. It is important to be humble and kind. I apologized...
He did got upset because I called him out to have him show his cues... He posts countless times on the forum about cuemaking related questions, but interesting enough he never posted any pictures of his work :rolleyes:
Childish to call him out on it? Really? Put your money where your mouth is...
That's why I gave up posting on here unless I am buying something. I just post my work in the gallery and that is it. That way nobody gets offended, some people are just too sensitive, real friends don't react like that and don't curse on other people... Good way to find out who are your real friends.
 
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He did got upset because I called him out to have him show his cues... He posts countless times on the forum about cuemaking related questions, but interesting enough he never posted any pictures of his work :rolleyes:
Childish to call him out on it? Really? Put your money where your mouth is...
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I have NEVER posted pics of my work? You plan on paying me now, you lying sack of.....gummy bears? It pales in comparison to your amazing work, but will you now STFU?
 

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