Cameos in Color of Money

I am curious do all th Real Pool Players who were in COM get money each time the COM Plays on T.V. Today, or off sales of VHS's & DVD's.

I have both the Hustler & COM of VHS, and the Tapes have given me many hours of priceless entertainment.
 
PoolSleuth said:
I am curious do all th Real Pool Players who were in COM get money each time the COM Plays on T.V. Today, or off sales of VHS's & DVD's.

I have both the Hustler & COM of VHS, and the Tapes have given me many hours of priceless entertainment.

They get zero, nada and zilch! And lots of it.
 
Bob Jewett said:
He was twisting the knife in Fast Eddie's gut.

That's exactly what he was doing, showing him absolutely no respect by asking a smart a$$ question after he just hustled him out of his cash.

And, it was an essential part of the movie to provide Eddie with the inner anger and determination to get his game back to where it used to be, capped off at the end of the movie with "I'm Back".
 
Grady said:
I still get checks but they are small now. I have received about $15,000 over the years in residuals.
I think thats because you had an actual small role in the movie. The guys in the background who showed up as extras arnt getting anything... it's like that for all movies.
 
Not Vickery

wahcheck said:
Mr. Beard,

This is the 1st time I've ever heard of "Howard the Coward"...I guess you mean Vickery? I've heard of most pool nicknames, but they're mostly complimentary...This is a nasty tag to hang on somebody...Is it because he won't gamble?


Definitely not Howard Vickery,
Howard the Coward, now deceased, was a great bank pool player from Chicago.

the Beard
 
Watch his movies carefully

wayne said:
Freddie: Cruise was already a superstar when he did that movie. Also, except for the usual weirdos trying to capitalize on someone's fame there is no shred of proof that he is gay. In actual fact he has been married to and gone out with some of the most beautiful women on the planet. The main story about him being gay came from a gay pornstar who said he had an affair with him in France. When he was faced with a lawsuit he admitted he had never had an affair, he had never met him and in fact he had never been to France either. So unless you have some proof that no one else seems to have then you have been reading too many tabloids.

Wayne

Cruise at that time was not in Newman's league. You would have had to have been on the set to see the differences. People could approach Tom and talk to him -- as I did. Nobody went near Newman.
I am not going to argue the gay point, and incidentally, I spend as much time reading tabloids as I do doing missionary work. When I see Cruise, close up, stick his tongue in some actresses mouth in a movie, I will withdraw my claim. That aside, Tom is a great guy in my opinion. I spent a little time with him during the movie. I just dont want to kiss him.

the Beard
 
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Beg pardon, Jay

jay helfert said:
In the ensuing 2-3 years, Efren spent a lot of time in Chicago and learned One Pocket from Billy Incardona. So it's all Billy's fault, he created a monster. I think Efren was giving Keith weight like 8-7 and Keith thought he was stealing. I know I went off for about a thou before I pulled up. I'm sure Billy was in with Effie.

Excuse me Jay,
Efren learned Onepocket from Incardona and myself. He and I played daily. Incardona played him sporadically. I even made Efren sign a statement that he learned Onepocket from me ( last year at DCC). (I can copy it and post it, if need be)
In an article in P&B magazine some years ago, he specifically states that he learned Onepocket from Incardona and Freddy (me). Another "student" at that time was Jose Parica. They were both in Chicago at the same time. I could beat Efren playing banks and was giving Parica 9 to 8 at the game. In our lifetimes we are allowed only so much glory, I dont want what little I have accumulated to be so easily forgotten. That aside, you know I still love you.

the Beard
 
freddy the beard said:
Cruise at that time was not in Newman's league. You would have had to have been on the set to see the differences. People could approach Tom and talk to him -- as I did. Nobody went near Newman.
I am not going to argue the gay point, and incidentally, I spend as much time reading tabloids as I do doing missionary work. When I see Cruise, close up, stick his tongue in some actresses mouth in a movie, I will withdraw my claim. That aside, Tom is a great guy in my opinion. I spent a little time with him during the movie. I just dont want to kiss him.

the Beard

THAT....was classic!.....Freddie does it again:D

Gerry
 
freddy the beard said:
I am not going to argue the gay point, and incidentally, I spend as much time reading tabloids as I do doing missionary work. When I see Cruise, close up, stick his tongue in some actresses mouth in a movie, I will withdraw my claim. That aside, Tom is a great guy in my opinion. I spent a little time with him during the movie. I just dont want to kiss him.
the Beard

LOL!

staff at my office just asked me what was so funny...ru roh back to work now.
 
The Beard and Efren

freddy the beard said:
Excuse me Jay,
Efren learned Onepocket from Incardona and myself. He and I played daily. Incardona played him sporadically. I even made Efren sign a statement that he learned Onepocket from me ( last year at DCC). (I can copy it and post it, if need be)
In an article in P&B magazine some years ago, he specifically states that he learned Onepocket from Incardona and Freddy (me). Another "student" at that time was Jose Parica. They were both in Chicago at the same time. I could beat Efren playing banks and was giving Parica 9 to 8 at the game. In our lifetimes we are allowed only so much glory, I dont want what little I have accumulated to be so easily forgotten. That aside, you know I still love you.

the Beard


Okay Freddy. What I heard was that Billy had you chalking Efren's cue for him. At least that was the way Billy told it.

Just teasing you dude. After all, you are FREDDY THE BEARD WITHOUT THE BEARD and so on and so forth. I wish you'd make up your mind.

By the way, besides making the best book on Banks ever, the GOSPOOL according to the Beard is great reading. Wonderful insights into the lives of some of Pool's greatest players, and tales about the golden old days of legendary roadmen and big scores.

Hey Freddy, how come I'm not in there. Didn't I take you to south L.A. to play all the great black Bankers? We went with Augie from Jersey and he got a little scared. You fit right in with all the brothers, even began to talk like them after a while.

Now to set the record straight, we can blame Freddy and Billy for creating the One Pocket monster that is Efren Reyes.
 
wayne said:
...there is no shred of proof that he is gay. In actual fact he has been married to and gone out with some of the most beautiful women on the planet...
Wayne

Ahh, but that's the point - If you were married to Nicole Kidman AND were straight would you have divorced her?

Personally I don't care either way, but that Scientology stuff? Now THAT'S Looney Tunes right there.

Oh, and getting back on topic, if you are anti-Cruise go buy yourself a copy of the actual book of TCOM, it's totally Vincent-free. (This despite him being on the cover!)
 
AuntyDan said:
Ahh, but that's the point - If you were married to Nicole Kidman AND were straight would you have divorced her?

Personally I don't care either way, but that Scientology stuff? Now THAT'S Looney Tunes right there.

Oh, and getting back on topic, if you are anti-Cruise go buy yourself a copy of the actual book of TCOM, it's totally Vincent-free. (This despite him being on the cover!)

It seems mostly gay men want all top actors to be gay and come up with reasons why they believe they are gay. Are you gay??

Wayne
 
AuntyDan said:
Oh, and getting back on topic, if you are anti-Cruise go buy yourself a copy of the actual book of TCOM, it's totally Vincent-free. (This despite him being on the cover!)

See, that's one of my pet peeves - when you have a perfectly good book turned into a movie, and suddenly all reissues of that book have the cover art hijacked by a still from the movie - as if, suddenly, history has reversed itself and the book is simply a novelization of the movie.

</rant>
 
ScottW said:
See, that's one of my pet peeves - when you have a perfectly good book turned into a movie, and suddenly all reissues of that book have the cover art hijacked by a still from the movie - as if, suddenly, history has reversed itself and the book is simply a novelization of the movie.

</rant>

Definately. Still it was nice to have TCOM (and the Hustler too) finally back in paperback, they had been out of print for years.
 
A great big thank you

jay helfert said:
Okay Freddy. What I heard was that Billy had you chalking Efren's cue for him. At least that was the way Billy told it.

Just teasing you dude. After all, you are FREDDY THE BEARD WITHOUT THE BEARD and so on and so forth. I wish you'd make up your mind.

By the way, besides making the best book on Banks ever, the GOSPOOL according to the Beard is great reading. Wonderful insights into the lives of some of Pool's greatest players, and tales about the golden old days of legendary roadmen and big scores.

Hey Freddy, how come I'm not in there. Didn't I take you to south L.A. to play all the great black Bankers? We went with Augie from Jersey and he got a little scared. You fit right in with all the brothers, even began to talk like them after a while.

Now to set the record straight, we can blame Freddy and Billy for creating the One Pocket monster that is Efren Reyes.

Thanks, Jay ever so much.
As for being in the book, if you look carefully you will notice that I eventually talk bad about everybody in the GosPool and snitch off all their secrets and vices. The book is near libelous. Would you want me to talk badly about you?

the Beard
 
Grady said:
I still get checks but they are small now. I have received about $15,000 over the years in residuals.

Well I am happy to hear that. As without those Players there would have been no COM....;)
 
I'm not reading all these pages so I'll just ask

Who's the white guy with the big curly beard , he picked up the ball that Vince flew off the table, was in the hustling montage before he plays Grady seasons


I seen him on an old Strickland vs mizerak match, demonstrating a "trick" shot in 8ball
 
I'm not reading all these pages so I'll just ask

Who's the white guy with the big curly beard , he picked up the ball that Vince flew off the table, was in the hustling montage before he plays Grady seasons


I seen him on an old Strickland vs mizerak match, demonstrating a "trick" shot in 8ball

Howard Vickery
 
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