Congats To Rodney Morris in HOF

[GideonF]

Joey, did you wear just hip waders, or did you have to put on full chest waders to type that out? What's sickening is that some of you are so blind to the truth just because the guy plays pool real well. Exemplary life? Is that what got him barred from pro events recently? Really? But, for sure, Rodney, keep on acting just like you do. It's obvious some are totally blind to your real self and as long as you continue to play good, nothing else matters about you.

Also, very typical of you to take the truth others dare speak of and call it a "community attack". Just keep you head in the sand Joey. When you can't dispute the actual truth, just go after those speaking it. :shakehead:

I will say this for you though, when you pile it on, you sure pile it deep!

It has been reported that he was banned from CSI events because he criticized CSI. If that is what happened, that may (or may not) have been unwise, it would not lower his standing in my eyes. (BTW, he is currently playing the CSI 10 ball event, as well as one of the CSI challenge matches, so clearly he and Mark have worked it out).

As to his old conviction, given everything I've seen about how Rodney has lived his life since then, it doesn't trouble me at all. And I think it would actually make an attractive redemption arc for sponsors and the sport.

 

[Neil]

Can you explain what knowledge you have of the incident and where you got the information from?

Which incident are you talking about? His facebook rants were all over facebook. I'm sure you read them. His MC cup dump I got firsthand from someone that was actually there. Been covered up long enough. What I was told is this- Raj Hundal made a bet at the window that Rodney would lose his match. Rodney did lose it, and IMO, he didn't even make it look good. They won $300,000 at the window for it. Barry was pissed off to no end, and had Scotland Yard investigating it as well as the "window". Couldn't actually prove he dumped, so they skated on charges. Barry had a lot of words with Rodney about it. Barry also had a lot to say about his and Hatch's actions in the bar.

Now, watch the actual event on you tube. Watch how the whole team is trying to win and has a good attitude. Then, watch the attitude of the players when they come out after just finding out that Rodney was going to dump. Everyone of them except Rodney was pissed off coming out to play. SVB was up, and he acted like he didn't even want to be there anymore. Halfway or so through the match, he finally started trying just for himself and his country, even though he already knew they were going to lose the team event again.

Lots of pros dump at various times. I look at it as a given. However, when one dumps an event where they are representing their country, I view it the same as I would any other traitor. They sold out their country for a buck. I spent ten years serving this country, and I don't take kindly to those I deam as traitors.

 

[Tramp Steamer]

Which incident are you talking about? His facebook rants were all over facebook. I'm sure you read them. His MC cup dump I got firsthand from someone that was actually there. Been covered up long enough. What I was told is this- Raj Hundal made a bet at the window that Rodney would lose his match. Rodney did lose it, and IMO, he didn't even make it look good. They won $300,000 at the window for it. Barry was pissed off to no end, and had Scotland Yard investigating it as well as the "window". Couldn't actually prove he dumped, so they skated on charges. Barry had a lot of words with Rodney about it. Barry also had a lot to say about his and Hatch's actions in the bar.

Now, watch the actual event on you tube. Watch how the whole team is trying to win and has a good attitude. Then, watch the attitude of the players when they come out after just finding out that Rodney was going to dump. Everyone of them except Rodney was pissed off coming out to play. SVB was up, and he acted like he didn't even want to be there anymore. Halfway or so through the match, he finally started trying just for himself and his country, even though he already knew they were going to lose the team event again.

Lots of pros dump at various times. I look at it as a given. However, when one dumps an event where they are representing their country, I view it the same as I would any other traitor. They sold out their country for a buck. I spent ten years serving this country, and I don't take kindly to those I deam as traitors.

If this is true then at the very least he should be stripped of his HOF status.
And, JoeyA, don't you ever throw that friendship crap in our faces again. This is a forum where our opinions count just as much as yours.

 

[Tooler]

If this is true then at the very least he should be stripped of his HOF status.
And, JoeyA, don't you ever throw that friendship crap in our faces again. This is a forum where our opinions count just as much as yours.

They'll never strip him of HOF, because it was never proven. If it had, then he never would of received it in the first place.

I'm not condoning anything, just sayin. I agree 100% with everything Neil said, but it had to of been discussed prior to selecting him.....No?

 

[greyghost]

I'm going to hit the stone cold nut tap tap tap on Neil and tramps comments.

Joey is a kind man, has always been very nice an generous to myself and has even given me equipment for the school pool program. But I don't always have his nice opinions of others.

Tho we look at some of our hof members. It's not like buddy hall is known as some gracious honorable man.......and the pool hof I do forget like maybe Neil and tramp do isn't baseball or its hof that banned Pete rose.

As with Pete I doubt one person ever believed he was some kinda dumper lol....I mean this is Charlie hustle were talking about. He woulda bet the world on his shoulders......but that wasn't the comminishoners point it was that it can bring up things like the possibility of dumps and such.....

The baseball hof and the bca hof aren't the same thing.

For some of us though our sports stars and legends are supposed to be bigger than the game. Cut them and they bleed it's soul.

The days of Gehrig Maris mantle and Ripken are dead. It's all about performance now.....now how you perform.

It's not like I've never felt fear in my life.....but I don't like chicken shits. Dream killers nor false idols.

If I had known what I have learned in the past ohhh 6 years or so about a handful of players and legends of the game I'd still be focusing on my split times over x distance not my one pocket game or instruction for pool.

Just my humble opinion. Are Morris, hall, hatch, archer, Appleton and such great players omg YES.....do I admire or look up to them and all the other amazing players out there?

NO!

For myself right now the only tip top American player I have any admiration faith or trust in is Shane van boening. The young man is a shining pillar of light for our community and game.

That's the last and final thing I'll ever say about this and other similar things publicly.

Unless some mag wants an interview for print. Lol. I'll take my gloves off if they want some sweet nsfw quotes.

Not to worry, no ones interested in honesty these days and I'd just be black balled as some shoulder chipped hater.....no chips on these shoulders boys and girls....the chips are on my shop floor where they belong.

The truth will always be there. It's a tough sob and never dies.

Immortality awaits,
-greyghost




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[TATE]

I think it's totally inappropriate for a press release inducting him into the Hall of Fame to mention his "felony drug conviction". If Rodney wants to discuss it personally, that would be up to him. But a press release? That's really poor judgment IMO.

Perhaps it was the author's attempt to acknowledge Rodney for overcoming his past. If so, it was poorly conceived.

 

[arnaldo]

In the moral domain, we are rarely as good as the best thing we've ever done, but neither are we as bad as the worst thing we've ever done.

Rodney is a very human guy -- as are we. He hurt himself once as we all have, but he has elevated himself admirably.

On balance he'll be remembered as well as most of us will be for the brief cosmic seconds we were randomly granted to exist on this remote spinning rock.

Arnaldo

 

[BmoreMoney]

Congrats to Rodney!!! Well deserved accolade. The HOF is about accomplishments on the table, I could care less about his past nor about the press release. While I don't know him well, I can say every interaction I've ever had with him he was totally cool, nicest guy ever, professional, and very down to earth.

 

[westcoast]

In the moral domain, we are rarely as good as the best thing we've ever done, but neither are we as bad as the worst thing we've ever done.

Rodney is a very human guy -- as are we. He hurt himself once as we all have, but he has elevated himself admirably.

On balance he'll be remembered as well as most of us will be for the brief cosmic seconds we were randomly granted to exist on this remote spinning rock.

Arnaldo

deeply philosophical! Well said

 

[PRED]

Last time I spoke to Rodney was in NOLA, we were in a 8 table joint one night during the BCA. We were matching up on the Golden Tee while Aki was arranging a 5K set with a big ole boy in overalls. He had a HOF game back then.

Congrats Rodney

 

[JoeyA]

It's no wonder that pros don't want to spend time here.

If this is true then at the very least he should be stripped of his HOF status.
And, JoeyA, don't you ever throw that friendship crap in our faces again. This is a forum where our opinions count just as much as yours.

Scotland ****ing Yard didn't find that he did anything wrong.
He's paid his debt to society for his previous mistake.

If your opinions (OR ANYONE ELSE'S) are designed to punish a guy for mistakes that he has already paid for and to keep a rehabilitated man down, your opinions don't count for anything with me.

What do you people want, a pound of flesh? :deadhorse:

JoeyA

 

[ribdoner]

Congrats to a straight talkin and straight shootin man who deserved this honor

 

[Dave-Kat]

One of my favorites. Past is the past. Congrats to RM on his achievements and his well deserved induction.

Rolls,

-Kat,

 

[Superiorduper]

Congratulations Rodney, well deserved. Rodney's definitely my favorite player to watch, I never knew about his past but it certainly isn't going to change the fact that he's incredibly talented and a from what I can tell a great guy. I've never seen him overreact or have poor sportsman ship, I've heard him say "nice shot" or "good shot" to his opponents in smaller tournaments n whatnot. He seems like a real class act and all these people hard asses criticizing him are obviously cops, ex cops, or grew up with a dad as a cop. Not all cops, but you know, the hard ass kind of cops that are short, and wearing a flack jacket while writing a ticket to grandma cause she wasn't wearing her seat belt, most likely bald as well with a really shiny head...

Anyways! Can't wait to watch Rodney vs Bustamante next week, should be epic

 

[wayne]

Wow! Helluva story if is true. You actually got it second or third hand if someone there relayed it to you. If the person relaying it had firsthand knowledge it would mean they were directly involved and they gave you second hand knowledge, if they weren't directly involved then they had secondhand knowledge and you got third hand.

Where did Raj Hundal get $300,000 cash? Does someone actually take a $300,000 bet on a pool match (are they out of their freaking mind)?

Do you even win dollars over in England? I would think they would be betting pounds with the average bet 10 pounds. Someone slapping down $300,000 on a fellow player might set off a few million alarms.

Scotland Yard couldn't figure it out?

 

[Tramp Steamer]

Scotland ****ing Yard didn't find that he did anything wrong.
He's paid his debt to society for his previous mistake.

If your opinions (OR ANYONE ELSE'S) are designed to punish a guy for mistakes that he has already paid for and to keep a rehabilitated man down, your opinions don't count for anything with me.

What do you people want, a pound of flesh? :deadhorse:

JoeyA

Knock it off with the big blue letters, you're not as cool as you think you are.
Never have been, never will be.

 

[Bank it]

Congrats to Rodney.

To the naysayers I offer you the advice your parents should have given you. If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all.

 

[JoeyA]

I don't use "big blue letters" to be cool (whatever that is) but this thread was started to show some love to a man who has turned his life around and to congratulation him on being inducted into the Hall of Fame, not to be crucified for some past mistake.

JoeyA

Knock it off with the big blue letters, you're not as cool as you think you are.
Never have been, never will be.

 

[Tramp Steamer]

I don't use "big blue letters" to be cool (whatever that is) but this thread was started to show some love to a man who has turned his life around and to congratulation him on being inducted into the Hall of Fame, not to be crucified for some past mistake.

JoeyA

Save that love crap for the Democratic National Convention. That's next week.

 

[SJDinPHX]

Rodney has been and is a bright light for pool. Congratulations to him.

One of the things holding pool back IMO is the self righteous know it all jerks like we have on here. Must be straight pool players.:grin:

John, you and I have been around pool long enough to realize one thing for sure..Rarely, if there is serious money involved, is there not the moaning and grumblings from the side betting losers..They will start a "dump" rumor, at the drop of a hat!..It is quite often their way of trying to prove to others, that they are too smart to lose, so it must have been business!

Obviously there have been occasional "dumps", but not near as many as the "know it all jerks" would have you believe..
Any high stakes pool player, like Rodney, will be forced to defend himself just for having a bad day..The sting of the loss is bad enough, but the accusations make it ten times worse..Hard to blame him (or anybody) for lashing out at their detractors! .....Congratulations Rodney !

PS..And you are right, it has held pool back for decades now!